A sad day for America as the GOP blocks the disabilities treaty..

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Londo_Jowo

Londo_Jowo

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Moonbeam said:
You can stack fear of the UN right along side cow manure in the fertilizer isle of your local Walmart, the paranoid drool of conservative brain dead swine and mental defectives. You have become the scum that covers our face when the world looks at our nation, a seething mass of insane lunatics, crazy ugly Americans, a collection of brain dead assholes. You are the disgust you project on the world, the outer reflection of your inner ugliness, the externalized mentall illness of your inner dementia. A bunch of sad sick fucks.
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Ahhh poor moonie is butthurt yet again.
 
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emperus

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Haha. Republicans.

FYI. The treaty was negotiated by G. H.W. Bush. Yes, the liberal icon.
 
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Moonbeam

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Londo_Jowo said:
We, the US has representation elected by the people, that determine our federal/state laws and no control should ever be given to any one outside the US...period.
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No top should ever wind down but history will flush you as it had begun to do. You fucking parrot. I call butt hurt when you fuck yourself in the ass and black helicopters fly out of it. You sir, are a ridiculous clown.
 
Londo_Jowo

Londo_Jowo

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Moonbeam said:
No top should ever wind down but history will flush you as it had begun to do. You fucking parrot. I call butt hurt when you fuck yourself in the ass and black helicopters fly out of it. You sir, are a ridiculous clown.
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Yep, poor moonie is burthurt yet again. Is all this hate due to you hating your self?
 
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Moonbeam

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Londo_Jowo said:
Yep, poor moonie is burthurt yet again. Is all this hate due to you hating your self?
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When choppers gets caught in one of your dingle berries you'll fly away as you discover what butt hurt means. Learn to wipe your ass before you try to think.
 
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Moonbeam

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Londo_Jowo said:
LMAO!!!!!! May the chopper of hate fly out your butt.
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No room in mine. You've got a different story, however. The whole UN flew up your ass as well as the black chopper air force. Your UN fantasies mark you as a nut case. It's hard for me to be butt hurt seeing as how you made me laugh my ass off. "Oh no, the UN is going to control when I can take a blow movement. Run for the hills, the UN is coming. We're going to lose our sovereignty and when we can take a shit. Help, help!!!!"

You're fucking nuts.
 
Londo_Jowo

Londo_Jowo

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Moonbeam said:
No room in mine. You've got a different story, however. The whole UN flew up your ass as well as the black chopper air force. Your UN fantasies mark you as a nut case. It's hard for me to be butt hurt seeing as how you made me laugh my ass off. "Oh no, the UN is going to control when I can take a blow movement. Run for the hills, the UN is coming. We're going to lose our sovereignty and when we can take a shit. Help, help!!!!"

You're fucking nuts.
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Is that all you got Mr Butthurt Moonboy?
 
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ichy

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marincounty said:
Fine. I think the ADA is way too big and has cost US businesses billions to accommodate the very few. Disabled means dis abled, you can't do everything an able-bodied person can do. I say revisit this law and modify it so it is less intrusive and expensive.
I have been disabled at times in my life, but the ADA is BS.
The problem with this country is some stupid law gets passed and we're stuck with it forever. Bad laws never get fixed because of the gridlock in Congress. Marijuana prohibition from 1937, ADA, birthright citizenship, etc..
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The ADA was well intentioned. The problem with it is that it's too easy for scumbag lawyers to file very expensive suits over very minor technical violations of the ADA (we're talking about diners getting sued because their lunch counters are a couple of inches too high.)
 
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piasabird

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What does this treaty say? Have you read it?

Why do you want to argue about a treaty no one has even read?
 
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Thump553 said:
Bob Dole is a liberal now? Only in the eyes of the batshit crazy GOP fringe.
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Bob Dole is a republican, but that doesn't mean he's right about everything, and it doesn't mean I have to agree with him on everything. In this case he's simply wrong and I'm glad the GOP had the stones to stand up and block this dumb idea.

I'm still waiting for someone -- anyone -- to provide a rational reason why this treaty should be signed, outside of vague touchy feely "we set an example" bullshit.

<edit> In fact, I'd like to see those who support signing the treaty say one way or the other: does this treaty change anything in terms of US law? If it essentially identical to existing ADA regs, then there's no point in signing it because the laws are already on the books. If it's not identical to existing ADA regs, then you concede you are essentially legislating by treaty, giving the UN some control over purely internal matters. Which is it?
 
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Double Trouble

It is modeled after our law.

It has no effect on U.S. law, cedes no authority to the U.N., and has no force of law.

It amounts to a consensus of nations of how all nations should treat the disabled.

For as long as I can remember, our country has sought to occupy the moral high ground by advocating for human rights, civil rights, and equal treatment everywhere in the world.

This treaty codifies some of those principles into a model for the rest of the world to emulate. More than 100 nations have essentially said: "Hey U.S.A., you got it right!". And we thumb our nose at them.

People like Santorum are not new to fabricating imaginary boogeymen.
 
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drebo

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Matt1970 said:
Did we conviently leave out the fact that the bill would give United Nations oversight of how we care for people with special needs? It's a UN Bill. CRPD UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities
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That's unconstitutional. Glad it failed.

Also, we already have ADA. Isn't that enough?
 
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Tom

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drebo said:
That's unconstitutional. Glad it failed.

Also, we already have ADA. Isn't that enough?
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It isn't true it would have given the UN oversight over the USA.

And the purpose of the treaty is for those countries with policies like the ADA, like us, to encourage the rest of the world to join us in improving conditions for the disabled in their countries.

There's a complete misunderstanding about what a treaty is..it isn't us giving up something, its an agreement.

The UN has no authority over the USA and never will have. Its completely unfounded fear based on paranoia; black helicopter syndrome.

And real people will suffer because of the cowardice of a few.
 
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Londo_Jowo

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Tom said:
It isn't true it would have given the UN oversight over the USA.

And the purpose of the treaty is for those countries with policies like the ADA, like us, to encourage the rest of the world to join us in improving conditions for the disabled in their countries.

There's a complete misunderstanding about what a treaty is..it isn't us giving up something, its an agreement.

The UN has no authority over the USA and never will have. Its completely unfounded fear based on paranoia; black helicopter syndrome.

And real people will suffer because of the cowardice of a few.
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How many foreign countries have you visited in the say past 5 years?
If so, how many do not have similar protections/accommodations for the handicapped as seen in the US?
 
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Double Trouble

It is modeled after our law.

It has no effect on U.S. law, cedes no authority to the U.N., and has no force of law.
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I'm don't understand why you make this claim. And the Constitution does not agree with you:

Article Six of the United States Constitution establishes the Constitution and the laws and treaties of the United States made in accordance with it as the supreme law of the land,

Clause two provides that the Constitution, federal laws made pursuant to it and treaties made under its authority, constitute the supreme law of the land. It provides that state courts are bound by the supreme law; in case of conflict between federal and state law, the federal law must be applied. Even state constitutions are subordinate to federal law.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Six_of_the_United_States_Constitution

Fern
 
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