Capt Caveman
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Anubis
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yea he got 5, not bad IMO, he didnt have a amazing year this year but he was not horrid, and he came up big in the post season
Lowell will prob be offered a 3-4 year deal, yes its true that sox dont like to sign people to longer deals when they are older, but i think they might do it this time, hes been great all season and in the post season both offensivily and defensivilly
Gibson486
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Welll...I guess they could try Arod for 5 years for 125 milllion then dump Lugo somewhere (and eat up part of his contraqct and watch Lugo hit above .280 somewhere else).... 125 Million for Arod scares me, but I could see the sox pulling the trigger even though fans do not want him here.
waggy
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unless A-rod wants to reduce that pay he is going to have a hard time anywhere he goes.
he does not perform to a level that the pay demands (not saying is not great. hall of famer for sure). more teams would rather pass on him and get 2-3 great players then 1 overpriced elite one.
he does not perform to a level that the pay demands (not saying is not great. hall of famer for sure). more teams would rather pass on him and get 2-3 great players then 1 overpriced elite one.
Based strictly on stats, A-Rod is not overpaid. His offensive numbers are the best, quite possibly the best ever when it's all said and done. Where A-Rod fails is in the leadership aspect, he doesn't seem to have the grit, will and determination to get his team where it needs to go during the playoffs when the pressure is on.
I'm guessing he'll end up with the Angels or Red Sox. If the Sox can afford to sign him without giving up Lowell, they could have one of the best starting lineups in the history of baseball ('27 Yankees anyone?).
I'm guessing he'll end up with the Angels or Red Sox. If the Sox can afford to sign him without giving up Lowell, they could have one of the best starting lineups in the history of baseball ('27 Yankees anyone?).
moshquerade
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ThePresence
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Man, I hope this blows up in Boras' face.
I can't imagine there's a team willing to pay him much more than what the Yankees offered.
It would be real nice seeing Boras crawl back to the Yankees and the Yanks telling him to shove it.
Yes, I know it's a fantasy.
I can't imagine there's a team willing to pay him much more than what the Yankees offered.
It would be real nice seeing Boras crawl back to the Yankees and the Yanks telling him to shove it.
Yes, I know it's a fantasy.
Anubis
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moshquerade
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nah. while i don't like see A-Rod going, i never got the feeling he was a team player.
we can revisit this thread, and see who was right.
Anubis
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i was pretty much being scarastic, i think the loss in the ALCS in 2004 hurt NY more then anything, and IMO itll be a few more years before they are fully back in the swing of things, not having Arod hurts as he is a great player however, not paying him is also great because NY can get some pitching which they desperatly need, and well as possibily sign some other young players and develop them.
Hayabusa Rider
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Sox don't need or really want A-Rod.
IMO these guys are for the most part ridiculously overpaid, and it was the Yankees who fostered that. Good to see that after all this time their tactic came to bite them in the ass.
It won't happen, but I'd like to see A-Hole get signed- for half or less than he's asking.
IMO these guys are for the most part ridiculously overpaid, and it was the Yankees who fostered that. Good to see that after all this time their tactic came to bite them in the ass.
It won't happen, but I'd like to see A-Hole get signed- for half or less than he's asking.
Capt Caveman
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It's pretty ridiculous how ARod is already the highest paid player in MLB and now wants to be paid even more. It'll be interesting to see where he goes and for how much.
ThePresence
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It's not biting them in the ass. They said if he opts out they won't be part of his free agency circus. He made a choice, so they say goodbye. It's not like they desperately wanted him back at all costs.
IMO, Boras is trying to play the Yankees, trying to call their bluff, thinking they will negotiate now. I sincerely hope that Cashman and Hank Steinbrenner stick to their guns and don't become part of this process.
The guy is the best individual talent playing today, and maybe when it's all said and done, the best ever. But he is not a winning player. There is something about certain guys that make them winning players. A guy like Jeter, or Pedroia, David Wright or even Troy Tulowitzki, they have a certain winning vibe to them. It may sound crazy, but those kinds of guys make their teamates better. Arod is just not that kind of guy.
Hayabusa Rider
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How does losing A-Rod benefit the teams playing? I don't see it.
It was the Yankees who promoted throwing money at players, driving the cost of acquiring them to the stratospheric levels we see these days. Now they have A-Hole (I like that as if you couldn't tell) ditching the Yankees because of the mentality they largely created.
ThePresence
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Short-term, it does not benefit the Yankees. Losing a player of that caliber is not helpful. But it allows them to spend much more in other areas of need.
Sure, the Yankees are somewhat responsible for creating that type of marketplace, but it is Texas who gave him that obscene contract, not the Yankees. Either way, it doesn't matter. Ditiching the Yankees? Fine, goodbye. I don't see many Yankee fans terribly broken up over this.
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ThePresence
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Originally posted by: dennilfloss
How could he just opt out of his contract if he had years remaining?
He had a clause in his contract that allowed him to do that.
dennilfloss
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That doesn't sound like a very smart thing for the general manager to agree to include during the contract negotiations.
ThePresence
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It's something he insisted on.Originally posted by: dennilfloss
That doesn't sound like a very smart thing for the general manager to agree to include during the contract negotiations.
He had an apt-out option after a certain amount of years.
Capt Caveman
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Originally posted by: ThePresence
It's something he insisted on.Originally posted by: dennilfloss
That doesn't sound like a very smart thing for the general manager to agree to include during the contract negotiations.
He had an apt-out option after a certain amount of years.
JD Drew another Boras client, had the same clause in his contract with the Dodgers. He opted out with 3 years and $33 mil remaining to sign with Boston.
It's a lie, Sportscenter obviously doesn't come to Texas too often. Tom Hicks is already unpopular as an owner and he knows exactly what Arod did to the Rangers. I honestly believe people in the metroplex (at least 25% of fans) would boycott the Rangers if they signed Arod. We have a good young core with good veteran leadership. We have decent offense. We need pitching.
I truly would not watch or attend another Rangers game while Tom Hicks is the owner if he signed Arod.
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