A retired Army Sergeant first class gets $37k/yr pension for life?!

[Jumpem]

No government employees should be getting a pension.

 

[Wreckem]

No government employees should be getting a pension.

Then increase their standard pay to their private counterparts. Federal benefits is what makes working for the Feds worth it.

 

[Wreckem]

For reference: My mother is a public school teacher (Special Ed.). Pension is 80% of her ending contract salary, which is quite a lot (just about six figures).

Yeah and that's for how many years of service? I know to max out Texas TRS which is 75% of your average last 5 year salary requires 35 years. And most teachers in Texas max out in the $60s if they are lucky.

 

[Matt1970]

For reference: My mother is a public school teacher (Special Ed.). Pension is 80% of her ending contract salary, which is quite a lot (just about six figures).

And they say teachers are underpaid.

 

[cyclohexane]

some cops get $100k+

 

[boomerang]

I can't tell if he's complaining about how low it is or how high it is. It isn't enough if you ask me, considering how much they try to keep us in war these days.

That's typical for his threads. You aren't really sure what he's saying, you don't know his position and you kinda wonder what the post is all about. To top it off, in the vast majority of them he doesn't post again.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

For reference: My mother is a public school teacher (Special Ed.). Pension is 80% of her ending contract salary, which is quite a lot (just about six figures).

Yeah, my mom is a retired judge and has a similar deal, meaning that she will always make a six-figure income for the rest of her life, guaranteed.

 

[rudeguy]

That's typical for his threads. You aren't really sure what he's saying, you don't know his position and you kinda wonder what the post is all about. To top it off, in the vast majority of them he doesn't post again.

At least he's. ..

....well the good side is...

Anyone tried the cookie dough pop tarts yet?

 

[BoomerD]

heh-heh...I wondered how long it would take for this to get moved from OT. :biggrin:

 

[trenchfoot]

Here's yer 2013 US Military Pay Chart by Branch of Service and rank: http://www.militarypaychart.us/historical/2013-chart/

To figure out what each retiree makes upon discharge, a "multiplier" is used based on how many years of service a retiree accumulated.
For brevity's sake, a close round out would peg a retiree who served 20 years getting approx. 50% of their base pay and going as high as 102% for 41 yrs. of service. Retirees are also eligible for COLA.

 

[Capt Caveman]

That's typical for his threads. You aren't really sure what he's saying, you don't know his position and you kinda wonder what the post is all about. To top it off, in the vast majority of them he doesn't post again.

Yep, another retarded Jedi thread. Good for the veteran. He got paid shit for the twenty years he was enlisted.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

i always thought that sounded like too much. we have an employee who was in the military and he gets $3500 a month, no freaking wunder the gov has to print munnie

 

[theeedude]

They should get a 401k like the rest of us

 

[compuwiz1]

not bad for glorified janitors that can shoot guns.

What an ingrate fuck. Might be that you sleep in your bed free of bombs because of what these guys do. Might be that you have freedom because of something these guys do. Apparently respect was either never taught to you or you disregard it.

 

[kage69]

IMO that is low for someone entrusted with that many men in combat.

Retirement pensions for some police and government bureaucrats is just outrageous, I can't argue with that.

 

[Nebor]

They should get a 401k like the rest of us

We get the same TSP as many other federal employees.

I'm torn on this issue overall.

 

[mchammer187]

No government employees should be getting a pension.

The federal government "pension" is not what most people think.



I am a federal government worker and my pension is 1.1% of highest salary earned per year worked (paid only one time at retirement)

so 1.1 * 40 = 40.40% paid once upon retirement that is the way it works for FERS employees.

this amounts to a one time payment of 30-50K (assuming you worked 40 years) for something that we put in .8% of our salary for annually.


now they are trying to raise it to 3.1% of a new hires salary for no increase in benefits which means they would be better off not getting a "pension" which seems pretty absurd to me IE forcing you to pay 3.1% of your salary and only getting a fraction of that back at retirement.


If you were hired prior to 1984 than yes you get a traditional pension but that has long been done away with almost 30 years ago.

 

[Angry Irishman]

not bad for glorified janitors that can shoot guns.

Eat a dick.....a big one.

 

[Angry Irishman]

i always thought that sounded like too much. we have an employee who was in the military and he gets $3500 a month, no freaking wunder the gov has to print munnie

What do you think he did for 20-25 years? Deliver mail? Ignorance....

 

[BoomerD]

What do you think he did for 20-25 years? Deliver mail? Ignorance....

Well...in all honesty, combat troops make up a very small part of our military forces...should the clerk who never sees combat...or fires a weapon after basic training get the same benefits as someone who serves his entire career in one of the MOS's that puts them in harm's way?

And yes, there are lots of people whose only job is postal clerk.

 

[Angry Irishman]

Well...in all honesty, combat troops make up a very small part of our military forces...should the clerk who never sees combat...or fires a weapon after basic training get the same benefits as someone who serves his entire career in one of the MOS's that puts them in harm's way?

And yes, there are lots of people whose only job is postal clerk.

Even non combat troops spend years in all levels of shitholes around the world....serviceman doesn't equal mailman.

 

[BoomerD]

Even non combat troops spend years in all levels of shitholes around the world....serviceman doesn't equal mailman.

Of course not...because, in the right/wrong situations, the USMC postal clerk might be called upon to fight...even though his PRIMARY job is...mailman.

Hell, I'm not anti-military...not by a long shot. I served my 4 in the Corps...went to Vietnam for almost 2 years. My biological dad was in the USMC in the Pacific...Iwo Jima, Guadalcanal, and other vacation spots..and was killed serving in Korea...my son served in Iraq/Kuwait. His USMC heavy helicopter squadron was one of the first into Iraq in 2003. My step-dad served 28 years in the USAF as a sheet-metal guy. Served 3 tours in Vietnam.

I don't think we pay our military combat troops well enough...but at the same time, I think that those who go into harm's way deserve MUCH more than the mutt who sits at a desk and the worst "wound" he's likely to get is a paper cut...especially when they reach retirement.

 

[Angry Irishman]

Of course not...because, in the right/wrong situations, the USMC postal clerk might be called upon to fight...even though his PRIMARY job is...mailman.

Hell, I'm not anti-military...not by a long shot. I served my 4 in the Corps...went to Vietnam for almost 2 years. My biological dad was in the USMC in the Pacific...Iwo Jima, Guadalcanal, and other vacation spots..and was killed serving in Korea...my son served in Iraq/Kuwait. His USMC heavy helicopter squadron was one of the first into Iraq in 2003. My step-dad served 28 years in the USAF as a sheet-metal guy. Served 3 tours in Vietnam.

I don't think we pay our military combat troops well enough...but at the same time, I think that those who go into harm's way deserve MUCH more than the mutt who sits at a desk and the worst "wound" he's likely to get is a paper cut...especially when they reach retirement.

I guess we'll just disagree then.....

 

[BoomerD]

I guess we'll just disagree then.....

You must be one o dem desk jockeys...

 

[Angry Irishman]

You must be one o dem desk jockeys...

Oh Lord, now you're pushing buttons. No, no desk jockey here. I understand what you're saying I just think even the potential of being in harms way coupled with exotic vacation spots is enough to justify a pension and not have it screwed around with by Congress.