A real Poll concerning Drugs:

[gourmettea]

Should Marijuana be Legalized?

Legal for all

Legal only for medical purposes

Stay the same illegal.

 

[gistech1978]

yes.

 

I voted no, only because it'd be a logistical, legal and public health nightmare for our federal government. Legalizing weed wouldn't mean we'd be able to go to our corner junkie and buy an ounce a week. We'd have to go to drug store type places and purchase it for (likely very expensive) fee. Add to that the amount of corruption that would likely invade such an industry, even if it is government sponsored, and I just don't see enough benefits to legalize it.

 

[tweakmm]

As long as alcohol, caffeine and nicoteine are legal, marijuana should be legal too. If the government wants to be my babysitter it needs to be consistent.

 

[JonnyBlaze]

it wouldnt be more expensive than it is now or there would still be a black market for it. it should be legal tho


JB

 

Originally posted by: tweakmm
As long as alcohol, caffeine and nicoteine are legal, marijuana should be legal too. If the government wants to be my babysitter it needs to be consistent.

Should crack cocaine, piracy, cable theft and leaving the scene of an accident be illegal too? After all, we wouldn't want the government to act like our mothers over such stupid things like the above.

I hate that argument.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: jumpr
I voted no, only because it'd be a logistical, legal and public health nightmare for our federal government. Legalizing weed wouldn't mean we'd be able to go to our corner junkie and buy an ounce a week. We'd have to go to drug store type places and purchase it for (likely very expensive) fee. Add to that the amount of corruption that would likely invade such an industry, even if it is government sponsored, and I just don't see enough benefits to legalize it.

Have you checked the price of a bag of nice skunk recently? I don't think it can go much higher.

 

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: jumpr
I voted no, only because it'd be a logistical, legal and public health nightmare for our federal government. Legalizing weed wouldn't mean we'd be able to go to our corner junkie and buy an ounce a week. We'd have to go to drug store type places and purchase it for (likely very expensive) fee. Add to that the amount of corruption that would likely invade such an industry, even if it is government sponsored, and I just don't see enough benefits to legalize it.

Have you checked the price of a bag of nice skunk recently? I don't think it can go much higher.

Trust me, the price would go WAY up for a bag of government certified, government inspected, top quality marijuana.

 

[JonnyBlaze]

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: tweakmm
As long as alcohol, caffeine and nicoteine are legal, marijuana should be legal too. If the government wants to be my babysitter it needs to be consistent.

Should crack cocaine, piracy, cable theft and leaving the scene of an accident be illegal too? After all, we wouldn't want the government to act like our mothers over such stupid things like the above.

I hate that argument.

you dont even make sense. what does MJ and cable theft have to do with each other? we aint stealing the drugs. were buying them

JB

 

[gistech1978]

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: tweakmm
As long as alcohol, caffeine and nicoteine are legal, marijuana should be legal too. If the government wants to be my babysitter it needs to be consistent.

Should crack cocaine, piracy, cable theft and leaving the scene of an accident be illegal too? After all, we wouldn't want the government to act like our mothers over such stupid things like the above.

I hate that argument.

well considering the weed smoking and crack smoking are both victimless crimes.
then, i guess so.
im not saying all drugs should be legal, they should not. but common sense makes up for a lot. there is no common sense with regards to our MJ laws.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: tweakmm
As long as alcohol, caffeine and nicoteine are legal, marijuana should be legal too. If the government wants to be my babysitter it needs to be consistent.

Should crack cocaine, piracy, cable theft and leaving the scene of an accident be illegal too? After all, we wouldn't want the government to act like our mothers over such stupid things like the above.

I hate that argument.

First off, crack/coccaine is very very very different from caffeine, alcohol, nicoteine and marijuana. Crack and coccaine are not soft drugs in the slightest. And what the fvck do cable theft and leaving the scene of an accident have anything to do with marijuana legalization? If I choose to do drugs I am hurting nobody but myself, if I steal cable or leave an accident scene there are victims.

If I was as ignorant as you I'd say you smoked yourself retarded.

 

[jemcam]

Yes, legalize and tax it. It sure would solve a lot of problems.

 

[Siddhartha]

I wish the cops would invest the time and energy they put into protecting me from pot into going after people who broke into my car and eventually stole it.

 

[TheShiz]

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: jumpr
I voted no, only because it'd be a logistical, legal and public health nightmare for our federal government. Legalizing weed wouldn't mean we'd be able to go to our corner junkie and buy an ounce a week. We'd have to go to drug store type places and purchase it for (likely very expensive) fee. Add to that the amount of corruption that would likely invade such an industry, even if it is government sponsored, and I just don't see enough benefits to legalize it.

Have you checked the price of a bag of nice skunk recently? I don't think it can go much higher.

Trust me, the price would go WAY up for a bag of government certified, government inspected, top quality marijuana.

i really doubt that. anyway, marijuana will most likely be legal within 10 years. the government will make a killing just like they do with the ABC store.

 

[Frosty3799]

Pulled from here

In 2001, the last year for which statistics are available, law enforcement arrested an estimated 723,627 persons for marijuana violations.[2] This total far exceeds the total number of arrests for all violent crimes combined, including murder, manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault.[3] Today, it is estimated that taxpayers spend between $7.5 and $10 billion dollars annually arresting and prosecuting individuals for marijuana violations[4] ? monies that would be far better served targeting violent crime, including terrorism.

Since 1992, approximately six million Americans have been arrested on marijuana charges, a greater number than the entire populations of Alaska, Delaware, the District of Columbia, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Vermont, and Wyoming combined.[5] Nearly 90 percent of these total arrests were for simple possession, not cultivation or sale.[6]

Despite the fact that reported adult use of marijuana has remained relatively constant for the past decade, annual marijuana arrests have more than doubled since 1991.[7] Arrests for cocaine and heroin have declined sharply during much of this period,[8] indicating that increased enforcement of marijuana laws is being achieved at the expense of enforcing laws against the possession and trafficking of more dangerous drugs.

Lot more in that reading too...

It is a waste of our government's money. And the government is funded by the taxpayers... so in essence they are wasting our money by enforcing more strict penalties when they could just legalize and use our money for more productive tasks.

 

[gourmettea]

I don't think it will be more expensive as jumper assumes.

Example: Amsterdamn, the quality of the product is higher, and the cost is lower.


I would assume if it was legal, then it would be legal to grow it. Can't get cheaper than that, besides the initial investment of the grow set up.

I think it would be great, people being able to cross-breed, and discuss results in the open. I think there would be some crazy strains, more so than it already is.

But this is all wishful thinking. The government can't even agree on the whole gay marrage thing. I think MJ has an uphill battle.

 

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: tweakmm
As long as alcohol, caffeine and nicoteine are legal, marijuana should be legal too. If the government wants to be my babysitter it needs to be consistent.

Should crack cocaine, piracy, cable theft and leaving the scene of an accident be illegal too? After all, we wouldn't want the government to act like our mothers over such stupid things like the above.

I hate that argument.

First off, crack/coccaine is very very very different from caffeine, alcohol, nicoteine and marijuana. Crack and coccaine are not soft drugs in the slightest. And what the fvck do cable theft and leaving the scene of an accident have anything to do with marijuana legalization? If I choose to do drugs I am hurting nobody but myself, if I steal cable or leave an accident scene there are victims.

If I was as ignorant as you I'd say you smoked yourself retarded.

Hey, you said nothing about 'victimless crimes' in your original post. You simply indicated you didn't want the government to be your babysitter. I was giving examples of times when you would want the government to be looking over your shoulder.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: jumpr
I voted no, only because it'd be a logistical, legal and public health nightmare for our federal government. Legalizing weed wouldn't mean we'd be able to go to our corner junkie and buy an ounce a week. We'd have to go to drug store type places and purchase it for (likely very expensive) fee. Add to that the amount of corruption that would likely invade such an industry, even if it is government sponsored, and I just don't see enough benefits to legalize it.

Have you checked the price of a bag of nice skunk recently? I don't think it can go much higher.

Trust me, the price would go WAY up for a bag of government certified, government inspected, top quality marijuana.

I don't think you understand, marijuana is a plant, plants are very easy to grow. The only reason why people pay $350 for an ounce of dried flowers is because somebody had to take a risk selling it to somebody else who has to take a risk selling it to somebody who has to take a risk selling it to you. You take out the fact that one can get put in prizon for possession of said dried flowers and the price drops alot. Sure, it's not going to go for what it costs to grow(pennies) but it's not going to more than $350 an ounce.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: jumpr
I voted no, only because it'd be a logistical, legal and public health nightmare for our federal government. Legalizing weed wouldn't mean we'd be able to go to our corner junkie and buy an ounce a week. We'd have to go to drug store type places and purchase it for (likely very expensive) fee. Add to that the amount of corruption that would likely invade such an industry, even if it is government sponsored, and I just don't see enough benefits to legalize it.

Replace "weed" with "alcohol" in your argument, and then think about it for a while.

 

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: jumpr
I voted no, only because it'd be a logistical, legal and public health nightmare for our federal government. Legalizing weed wouldn't mean we'd be able to go to our corner junkie and buy an ounce a week. We'd have to go to drug store type places and purchase it for (likely very expensive) fee. Add to that the amount of corruption that would likely invade such an industry, even if it is government sponsored, and I just don't see enough benefits to legalize it.

Have you checked the price of a bag of nice skunk recently? I don't think it can go much higher.

Trust me, the price would go WAY up for a bag of government certified, government inspected, top quality marijuana.

I don't think you understand, marijuana is a plant, plants are very easy to grow. The only reason why people pay $350 for an ounce of dried flowers is because somebody had to take a risk selling it to somebody else who has to take a risk selling it to somebody who has to take a risk selling it to you. You take out the fact that one can get put in prizon for possession of said dried flowers and the price drops alot. Sure, it's not going to go for what it costs to grow(pennies) but it's not going to more than $350 an ounce.

If the government has a chance to make money off its citizens (i.e. charging higher prices for 'pure' cannabis) it will. And people will buy it, because they'll feel like they're paying a premium for inspected, certified product.

Do you think it really costs Pfizer $350/month to produce Lipitor? No, but drug companies are looking after their bottom line. The government is no different. Why do you think it costs upwards of $3 a page to order a transcript of a federal trial (which is required if one chooses to appeal a case)? Because the government knows people will pay the premium, in this case to possibly avoid a guilty sentence.

I'd love to see marijuana production privatized, much like prescription drugs are now, but that won't happen.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: tweakmm
As long as alcohol, caffeine and nicoteine are legal, marijuana should be legal too. If the government wants to be my babysitter it needs to be consistent.

Should crack cocaine, piracy, cable theft and leaving the scene of an accident be illegal too? After all, we wouldn't want the government to act like our mothers over such stupid things like the above.

I hate that argument.

First off, crack/coccaine is very very very different from caffeine, alcohol, nicoteine and marijuana. Crack and coccaine are not soft drugs in the slightest. And what the fvck do cable theft and leaving the scene of an accident have anything to do with marijuana legalization? If I choose to do drugs I am hurting nobody but myself, if I steal cable or leave an accident scene there are victims.

If I was as ignorant as you I'd say you smoked yourself retarded.

Hey, you said nothing about 'victimless crimes' in your original post. You simply indicated you didn't want the government to be your babysitter. I was giving examples of times when you would want the government to be looking over your shoulder.

I meant babysitter as one who tries to protect me from myself. So, now that I've clarified my possition, do you still "hate that argument"?

 

[azazyel]

Man if it ever was legalized I would quit my job and open up a head/grow shop. Imagine the money you could pull in from all the wanna be growers. You know none of the major home depots and such would be able to help people do this. "Umm, yes to start out growing you should really get the $3K hydro set up. You'll make your money back in no time." Laughing all the way to the bank.

 

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: jumpr
I voted no, only because it'd be a logistical, legal and public health nightmare for our federal government. Legalizing weed wouldn't mean we'd be able to go to our corner junkie and buy an ounce a week. We'd have to go to drug store type places and purchase it for (likely very expensive) fee. Add to that the amount of corruption that would likely invade such an industry, even if it is government sponsored, and I just don't see enough benefits to legalize it.

Replace "weed" with "alcohol" in your argument, and then think about it for a while.

The stigma associated with marijuana would REQUIRE that the government completely oversee its legalization, unlike alcohol which has been privately produced and distributed for hundreds of years. Marijuana legalization and distribution would likely have to be regulated solely by the federal government, and I'm confident that would prove a nightmarish situation.

 

[JonnyBlaze]

what stigma is associated with it??

JB

 

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: tweakmm
As long as alcohol, caffeine and nicoteine are legal, marijuana should be legal too. If the government wants to be my babysitter it needs to be consistent.

Should crack cocaine, piracy, cable theft and leaving the scene of an accident be illegal too? After all, we wouldn't want the government to act like our mothers over such stupid things like the above.

I hate that argument.

First off, crack/coccaine is very very very different from caffeine, alcohol, nicoteine and marijuana. Crack and coccaine are not soft drugs in the slightest. And what the fvck do cable theft and leaving the scene of an accident have anything to do with marijuana legalization? If I choose to do drugs I am hurting nobody but myself, if I steal cable or leave an accident scene there are victims.

If I was as ignorant as you I'd say you smoked yourself retarded.

Hey, you said nothing about 'victimless crimes' in your original post. You simply indicated you didn't want the government to be your babysitter. I was giving examples of times when you would want the government to be looking over your shoulder.

I meant babysitter as one who tries to protect me from myself. So, now that I've clarified my possition, do you still "hate that argument"?

Yes, I do. You cannot expect the government to be consistent with its 'legalization schedule.' Using anabolic steroids is a 'victimless crime.' Should they be legal? GHB is simply drain cleaner and degreaser mixed together. Should we all be forced to have clogged drains and greasy floors?