cytg111
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- Mar 17, 2008
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It seems that you're incapable of viewing this issue with any sense of real curiosity. I'll try express genuine "racism" in a way that you can understand.
I'm not offended by your CRT approach to something you have zero direct knowledge of.
Sure, racism still exists, but it's no where near the problem it once was. I've said as much, but you've managed to IGNORE it. I go where I want, when I want, with my beautiful white wife or alone. I hedge my bets by being armed much of the time. My life wouldn't have been near this easy 70+ years ago. This is what I meant when I said that things WILL get better still, but only if American blacks get busy holding up our part of the deal. I know you despise anecdotes, but since you don't have the power to enforce your speech codes on me...
My mother (born in 1922 Chicago) HATED whites with a fiery passion (for reason), however she was able to restrain those thought's, becaue she was smart enough to know that feeling that way could be counter-productive for her and my siblings. One of her best friends was white.
My dad (born in 1929 Mississippi) couldn't care less about whites. Strange huh? When I was old enough to ask him about his experiences and understand the responses, he mentioned that his family didn't interact with whites much because they had everything they needed to survive. This included a family show farm. He also told me that his time in Korea, during the war, was even easier in racial terms.
Being raised by two such powerful opinions prepared me to exist in this country in ways you don't seem to think possible, cy.
Your x-y spiel doesn't wash. Simplify and re-state please.
My position is this, we (by that I mean all of us) need to get passed tribalism and hidden agendas' for the sake of PEACE. You know, that societal\personal construct that allows you and I to live with as little fear as possible while we negotiate our lives. Is that clear enough? I sure hope so. What's next?
I don't care about the ambient skin color of congress. As long as they behave according to Constitutionally approved norms they're golden. If you're knowledgeable about current events in the US you have a front-row seat to what happens when two essentially currupt and powerful political parties go at each other, pulling their respective enablers/constituents along for the ride.
Republicans: A sad case without Trump. They're going to live what they say or be swept aside. They're relatively quiet in their grifting and talk a big game delivering nothing to their constituents. These folks suck too, just nowhere near as bad as Washington democrats.
Democrats: Out in the open now. In spite of their claims of being for this or that micro-culture, they do nothing right for our country. They're devoid of common sense. They've even, openly mind you, started using barbaric ANTIFA/BLM shock troops to scare the population into silence and constant doubt. Also and this needs to be said STRONGLY, democrats couldn't care less about "diversity", except when they can use it as a sword/shield against their enemies. In spite of what any of you might think of me, believe what I say here or prove me wrong with your own experience's or facts. BTW, I was born a democrat, lived under and among them for the first part of life.
Find a trusted source of your own or a site like Parler to expand your political/social horizons. Doing so is very important. Research the history of the democrat party and be amazed at the depravity of their current\former leadership. Democrat voters, put your "feelings" aside and THINK.
Stacey Abrams? She's a megalomaniac covered with fat and a road-company version of George Soros, without the billions. Racism? Sure, if that translates into power, worship and money for >her<. I could go on when it comes to this disgusting woman, but I'll leave it here. May I ask, what you expected me to say on this topic, cy?
Thanks for the thought out reply, ill just filter the insults and try and stay the course.
"I'm not offended by your CRT approach to something you have zero direct knowledge of."
- This is true, why I need to have someone explain it. That being said, the voter suppression taking place in ie. Georgia may not be text book racism but rather power positions traditionally held by white people and thus white people trying to defend these positions. Power is a addictive drug. Whatever you want to call it, its a stab at free and fair elections right?
"Sure, racism still exists, but it's no where near the problem it once was. I've said as much, but you've managed to IGNORE it. I go where I want, when I want, with my beautiful white wife or alone. I hedge my bets by being armed much of the time."
- Thankfully it is not! But hey man, things today is not as bad as they were 50 years ago, WW2 ago, WW1 ago, 50.000BC later stoneage ago. A couple of points though 1. Just cause its better doesnt mean it cant or should continue to improve and 2. shit CAN go in reverse. You know when shit goes in reverse? When someone(plural) stands to profit from the conflict. I'd argue that this has been the case under Trump. Its the case many places, Europe too. These are the real hotspots and motivations we need to understand and have free fair media put a light on.
I am uncertain how you factor in "being armed most of the time" in your experience to go and do as you please as a black guy. I assume you'd be armed no matter what color of skin, right?
"Your x-y spiel doesn't wash. Simplify and re-state please."
- Im trying.
"My position is this, we (by that I mean all of us) need to get passed tribalism and hidden agendas' for the sake of PEACE. You know, that societal\personal construct that allows you and I to live with as little fear as possible while we negotiate our lives. Is that clear enough? I sure hope so. What's next?"
- Agreed 100pct, but this is where you start to lose me. When you have leaders screaming the opposite into their followers skulls what do you get? Did you catch the "Proud Boys 6MWE"? Coupled with what you write next
"...They've even, openly mind you, started using barbaric ANTIFA/BLM shock troops to scare the population into silence and constant doubt. Also and this needs to be said STRONGLY, democrats couldn't care less about "diversity", except when they can use it as a sword/shield against their enemies."
(demoracts started using shock troops?) and
"Find a trusted source of your own or a site like Parler to expand your political/social horizons. Doing so is very important. Research the history of the democrat party and be amazed at the depravity of their current\former leadership. Democrat voters, put your "feelings" aside and THINK."
and
"Stacey Abrams? She's a megalomaniac covered with fat and a road-company version of George Soros, without the billions. Racism? Sure, if that translates into power, worship and money for >her< "
This is where our realities begin to diverge. Democrats dont give two fucks about diversity? How can they not if democrats defined IS diversity? That looks like actual representation to me. Obama was representation. You throw in Soros and then I go "this dude of the belief that there is a hidden power structure under Democrats pulling the strings, Soros, Clintons, and according to Alex Jones, Space Demons? You throw in Parler too and to me that is in the same realm as flat-earth anti-wax pedo-pizza-ring Qanon conspiracy non-fact territory.
"May I ask, what you expected me to say on this topic, cy?"
I expected definition. Think we got some. If I glossed over some of it from earlier posts thats on me.
We have another guy that pops in from time to time that sort of reflects your position @SP33Demon, why it poked my curiosity.
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