A quick HTML/JPG question! please help me!

[SLEEPER5555]

ok here is what i need help with! in IE6 there is a feature that lets you hover over a picture and then it brings up a thing that lets you email/save/etc. i want to make this not pop up and cannot figure out why it does on some pics but not on others! what am i missing here???

a better example of what i am asking is here http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2045081396 if you look at this auction you will see 2 pics in it one is of a box without the popup thingy and the other is of the modem and it has the popup thingy. why is this? they are both the same file type so that is not it!

 

[lti]

not sure why it does on some, and not on others...but you can right click, then disable the "image bar." and i'm not really sure if it's IE6 feature or xp. you can also disable/re-enable it through internet options.

 

[SLEEPER5555]

no that is not the problem of it poping up on my comp, I want to add something to the html that will disable this on sites that i make. i hate making a site that looks good but then as you hover the mouse around crap starts popping up which makes it easy for someone to take my pics and just looks crappy. it is a fearture of IE6 not XP because when iused to have ME with IE6 it did it also

 

[Mark R]

You can't disable this from within a web page - if you really must, then you could use flash for the images, flash won't cause the image bar to pop up, but then isn't viewable on all systems.

Edit: Worked it out

The image bar will only appear if the image is larger than a certain size - if it is less than (I think it is 200 in either dimension) then the image bar is disabled.

 

[SLEEPER5555]

so the only slution is to make the pics smaller and more grainy or cut it up into a series of smaller pics?

 

[Mark R]

That's certainly what it looks like.

 

[Evadman]

If you are worried about someone stealing the pics, you could use a small javascript to disable right clicking.

 

[Mark R]

But that's the whole point of the image bar - you can have the javascript on the page, but you don't have to right click to save the image: just hover the mouse over the image, and then click the save button on the toolbar when it appears.

I've found the image bar exceptionally useful when I want to save an image from a site, but the webmaster has installed one of those scripts.

There is a meta-tag that you can use to disable the image bar, but I can't post it here, because it upsets the board. Oh well.

However, do remember, that these tricks, and scripts achieve very little in terms of protecting your images from theives. You are best off: either
1) putting a visible copyright notice in any image that people may wish to steal, or
2) invisibly watermark the images; this will allow anyone unambiguously and authoritatively to identify you as the creator of the image, irrespective of who is hosting the image, or even if it has been manipulated, yet remains recognisable.

Additionally, don't forget that blocking right clicks also blocks the 'open link in a new window command' - this command is exceptionally useful, as it allows immediate access to the preceding page, and to open several links at once. Blocking this command dramatically reduces the functionality of the site. I won't stay long at a site which blocks this vital command.

Also, don't forget that scripts that block right clicks are ineffectual on Apple Mac computers - the save as command works perfectly well.

And, that in IE, you can save an image, just by left clicking and dragging it onto the desktop.

 

[SLEEPER5555]

ok great so i am basically screwed here?

 

[Mark R]

If you intention is solely to ensure that your web page appears as intended, then there is code that you can add to your web page that will disable the microsoft extensions - such as the image bar.

I can't post it here, because it gets garbled by the BBS software - however, do a goodle search for "meta imagetoolbar" and you will find the code I am talking about.

If you want to stop people from taking your images, then yes, you are screwed - the way the web works means that the author has no control over what the view does with the data.

The only option you have is to register your valuable images with your copyright office, which will make it easier to take action against theives. Other techincal options are provided by professional level programs like photoshop - put some extra info in the 'extra information' section of a file, and when the file is loaded with photoshop, a copyright symbol is displayed with the filename. Digital watermarking is also a helpful tool - by watermarking the image, a code, linking it to you is embedded in the image - if the image is retrieved later (even from a screen shot), the watermark will still be detectable and prove that you are the originator of it.

Digimarc run a web search engine that retrieves images from web sites, and checks for watermakrs - if you are a registered user, you can get reports on exactly which web sites have your images on.

 

[SLEEPER5555]

ok that worked!credit goes to mark R and this site. http://216.239.53.100/search?q=cach...ripttips.htm+meta+imagetoolbar&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
from google search i easily found 2 short metatags that fixed it! and yes i was more trying to retain the look than protect img. i know that is almost imposible, it is like trying to prevent somone from steling your car if they want it they will get it!