A question for people that DO believe in God:

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: ruffilb
I ask this question in response to the other thread, because I'm of the opinion that people aren't born into the world with a Christian/Muslim/Jewish/etc worldview, and that they have to acquire it over time. Were you simply taught to believe by your parents or community? Did you really believe then, because you were told to, or did it take something else to make you really believe?

Again, not trying to offend anyone.

If you have not already done so, please answer My poll.

First I was taught.... and I was very skeptical...

Then I spent 3 years really learning the religion (Judaism)... I studied with several Rabbis, made several trips to Israel... really took the time to ponder the religion. At which point I was 100% confident in God's existence and the beauty of my religion.

I've since become very angry at the concept of death, and am trying to reconcile that within the context of my faith. Unfortunately I havent had the time to study, and really address the issue... life is way busier now. However I do still believe in god... but I fear death...

-Max

 

[PingSpike]

After much soul searching, I just refuse to believe that everything exists for no reason and there was no driving force that created it.

Also, I want to believe there is an afterlife and that people will be rewarded for their good deeds in some way.

To believe otherwise, just makes everything feel pointless futile. So I have to believe.

 

[loic2003]

Originally posted by: BigToque

Originally posted by: loic2003
this thread again... another bunch of lamers looking for direction who don't have the balls to figure it out for themselves and so lean back on the belief of a deity so they can just let 'god' do all the work for them.

Seriously, the mental attitude/thought process of the religious is on par with that of a 10 year old kid. Stop believing in fairtytales and move on. Yes, we don't know everything, but that doesn't mean there must be a god. A fair while back, people believed thhunder/lightning was the strike of Thor, the norse god's hammer. Do we still believe this? No. would you look like a fvcking tool if you did still try and drone on and on that "no really, we're not sure about lighning, it must be a god"? Yes you would. As the human race has evolved religions have died out. As we evolve further, so will christianity and islam.

Grow the fvck up and stop thinking like a child. There is no santa, there is no tooth fairy, there is no god/higher being. Get over it.

/religion.

What a well thought out and convincing post.

:roll:

Yours was a crock of sh!t too. I'll paraphrase it for you here:

1) I'm young and impressionable and my girlfriend is part of the god-squad.
2) In a class, some book/idea made an impression on me.
3) One day I felt good
4) Now I believe in god.

I like the bit about blind faith. We understand a huge amount about the universe, but we don't know everything. My faith is in the fact that we may one day figure it out, or at least, if we don't, that what happened is physically possible.

Feeling good for a day!? You clown. What's more likely, an overactive pituitary gland for a day releasing endorphines or "god touching you"?

Like I said, stop believeing in fairytales, kiddo.

 

[Abel007]

Originally posted by: loic2003

Originally posted by: BigToque

Originally posted by: loic2003
this thread again... another bunch of lamers looking for direction who don't have the balls to figure it out for themselves and so lean back on the belief of a deity so they can just let 'god' do all the work for them.

Seriously, the mental attitude/thought process of the religious is on par with that of a 10 year old kid. Stop believing in fairtytales and move on. Yes, we don't know everything, but that doesn't mean there must be a god. A fair while back, people believed thhunder/lightning was the strike of Thor, the norse god's hammer. Do we still believe this? No. would you look like a fvcking tool if you did still try and drone on and on that "no really, we're not sure about lighning, it must be a god"? Yes you would. As the human race has evolved religions have died out. As we evolve further, so will christianity and islam.

Grow the fvck up and stop thinking like a child. There is no santa, there is no tooth fairy, there is no god/higher being. Get over it.

/religion.

What a well thought out and convincing post.

:roll:

Yours was a crock of sh!t too. I'll paraphrase it for you here:

1) I'm young and impressionable and my girlfriend is part of the god-squad.
2) In a class, some book/idea made an impression on me.
3) One day I felt good
4) Now I believe in god.

I like the bit about blind faith. We understand a huge amount about the universe, but we don't know everything. My faith is in the fact that we may one day figure it out, or at least, if we don't, that what happened is physically possible.

Feeling good for a day!? You clown. What's more likely, an overactive pituitary gland for a day releasing endorphines or "god touching you"?

Like I said, stop believeing in fairytales, kiddo.

While your opinion is your opinion the topic clearly states "A question for people that DO believe in God..." and its clear you are not one of those people. So check yourself out of the thread and carry on about your life any way you see fit.

To stay on topic, I believe in God because something had to create the air we breathe, the trees, the people, etc...with that being said I was raised as a Southern Baptist and will forever be one. I don't attend church however because I don't believe that churches are doing what they do for the right reasons anymore.

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: loic2003

Originally posted by: BigToque

Originally posted by: loic2003
this thread again... another bunch of lamers looking for direction who don't have the balls to figure it out for themselves and so lean back on the belief of a deity so they can just let 'god' do all the work for them.

Seriously, the mental attitude/thought process of the religious is on par with that of a 10 year old kid. Stop believing in fairtytales and move on. Yes, we don't know everything, but that doesn't mean there must be a god. A fair while back, people believed thhunder/lightning was the strike of Thor, the norse god's hammer. Do we still believe this? No. would you look like a fvcking tool if you did still try and drone on and on that "no really, we're not sure about lighning, it must be a god"? Yes you would. As the human race has evolved religions have died out. As we evolve further, so will christianity and islam.

Grow the fvck up and stop thinking like a child. There is no santa, there is no tooth fairy, there is no god/higher being. Get over it.

/religion.

What a well thought out and convincing post.

:roll:

Yours was a crock of sh!t too. I'll paraphrase it for you here:

1) I'm young and impressionable and my girlfriend is part of the god-squad.
2) In a class, some book/idea made an impression on me.
3) One day I felt good
4) Now I believe in god.

I like the bit about blind faith. We understand a huge amount about the universe, but we don't know everything. My faith is in the fact that we may one day figure it out, or at least, if we don't, that what happened is physically possible.

Feeling good for a day!? You clown. What's more likely, an overactive pituitary gland for a day releasing endorphines or "god touching you"?

Like I said, stop believeing in fairytales, kiddo.

Why do you find it necessary to be a crusader? Why can't you just STFU and let others have their own beliefs... you don't know anything for sure any more than anyone else... so please... just STFU

One more time... just so we're clear.

STFU

-Max

 

[Zysoclaplem]

I truly believe that in this plane of existance, with our limited time and limited understanding, there are things we just cannot fathom.
Existance, Purpose, and Higher Power are just a few of those things.
It's very frustrating.

 

[GeneValgene]

in my life, i feel the need for morality, meaning and destiny...my faith in God provides those things for me

 

[SampSon]

Yours was a crock of sh!t too. I'll paraphrase it for you here:

1) I'm young and impressionable and my girlfriend is part of the god-squad.
2) In a class, some book/idea made an impression on me.
3) One day I felt good
4) Now I believe in god.

I like the bit about blind faith. We understand a huge amount about the universe, but we don't know everything. My faith is in the fact that we may one day figure it out, or at least, if we don't, that what happened is physically possible.

Feeling good for a day!? You clown. What's more likely, an overactive pituitary gland for a day releasing endorphines or "god touching you"?

Like I said, stop believeing in fairytales, kiddo.

So basically you are so vain that you believe there is nothing out there that is infinitely beyond human comprehension? Humans are such a profound construct of random occurances that we can inevitably understand all there is to be known in the universe, even how the thing was created? You have quite a bit of blind faith in human science.

We don't know sh!t from shineola yet, not even close. Yet with this limited amount of information we have collected and processed through our human only perspective, we are able to dismiss any possibility of the universe being much deeper than our human created sciences. That is one egotistical, pig-headed, short-sighted and just straight up ignorant way of going about things. You as a human are incapable of full understanding of the universe, yet you convince yourself in complete blind faith that someday, somehow you will know all the secrets of this incredibly vast reality you are in.

You don't have to believe in "god' or a structured religion, but you absolutely have to keep your mind open enough to consider the endless possibilities. Though me expecting you to keep an open mind is also an incredible leap of blind faith, or a fairytale of sort.

 

[xSauronx]

Originally posted by: Abel007

Originally posted by: loic2003

Originally posted by: BigToque

Originally posted by: loic2003
this thread again... another bunch of lamers looking for direction who don't have the balls to figure it out for themselves and so lean back on the belief of a deity so they can just let 'god' do all the work for them.

Seriously, the mental attitude/thought process of the religious is on par with that of a 10 year old kid. Stop believing in fairtytales and move on. Yes, we don't know everything, but that doesn't mean there must be a god. A fair while back, people believed thhunder/lightning was the strike of Thor, the norse god's hammer. Do we still believe this? No. would you look like a fvcking tool if you did still try and drone on and on that "no really, we're not sure about lighning, it must be a god"? Yes you would. As the human race has evolved religions have died out. As we evolve further, so will christianity and islam.

Grow the fvck up and stop thinking like a child. There is no santa, there is no tooth fairy, there is no god/higher being. Get over it.

/religion.

What a well thought out and convincing post.

:roll:

Yours was a crock of sh!t too. I'll paraphrase it for you here:

1) I'm young and impressionable and my girlfriend is part of the god-squad.
2) In a class, some book/idea made an impression on me.
3) One day I felt good
4) Now I believe in god.

I like the bit about blind faith. We understand a huge amount about the universe, but we don't know everything. My faith is in the fact that we may one day figure it out, or at least, if we don't, that what happened is physically possible.

Feeling good for a day!? You clown. What's more likely, an overactive pituitary gland for a day releasing endorphines or "god touching you"?

Like I said, stop believeing in fairytales, kiddo.

While your opinion is your opinion the topic clearly states "A question for people that DO believe in God..." and its clear you are not one of those people. So check yourself out of the thread and carry on about your life any way you see fit.

To stay on topic, I believe in God because something had to create the air we breathe, the trees, the people, etc...

why?

you dont believe the universe as we see it could just *poof* be here, right?

but god, that you cant see, or prove, *can* ?

how can you justify that? by saying the bible says so?

but then, you cant prove everything in the bible. some of its wrong, some contradictory, some of it just plain un-provable. so you have faith...thats it right? faith is why you believe in god and the bible

...so why faith in an invisible, all-powerful man that you cant possibly prove anything about, being there to take care of things, but not faith in what you *live through* just *being there* when you can actually *see feel touch hear and smell* it?

and why *that* god? why not another god or gods that billions of others believe in?

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: xSauronx

Originally posted by: Abel007

Originally posted by: loic2003

Originally posted by: BigToque

Originally posted by: loic2003
this thread again... another bunch of lamers looking for direction who don't have the balls to figure it out for themselves and so lean back on the belief of a deity so they can just let 'god' do all the work for them.

Seriously, the mental attitude/thought process of the religious is on par with that of a 10 year old kid. Stop believing in fairtytales and move on. Yes, we don't know everything, but that doesn't mean there must be a god. A fair while back, people believed thhunder/lightning was the strike of Thor, the norse god's hammer. Do we still believe this? No. would you look like a fvcking tool if you did still try and drone on and on that "no really, we're not sure about lighning, it must be a god"? Yes you would. As the human race has evolved religions have died out. As we evolve further, so will christianity and islam.

Grow the fvck up and stop thinking like a child. There is no santa, there is no tooth fairy, there is no god/higher being. Get over it.

/religion.

What a well thought out and convincing post.

:roll:

Yours was a crock of sh!t too. I'll paraphrase it for you here:

1) I'm young and impressionable and my girlfriend is part of the god-squad.
2) In a class, some book/idea made an impression on me.
3) One day I felt good
4) Now I believe in god.

I like the bit about blind faith. We understand a huge amount about the universe, but we don't know everything. My faith is in the fact that we may one day figure it out, or at least, if we don't, that what happened is physically possible.

Feeling good for a day!? You clown. What's more likely, an overactive pituitary gland for a day releasing endorphines or "god touching you"?

Like I said, stop believeing in fairytales, kiddo.

While your opinion is your opinion the topic clearly states "A question for people that DO believe in God..." and its clear you are not one of those people. So check yourself out of the thread and carry on about your life any way you see fit.

To stay on topic, I believe in God because something had to create the air we breathe, the trees, the people, etc...

why?

you dont believe the universe as we see it could just *poof* be here, right?

but god, that you cant see, or prove, *can* ?

how can you justify that? by saying the bible says so?

but then, you cant prove everything in the bible. some of its wrong, some contradictory, some of it just plain un-provable. so you have faith...thats it right? faith is why you believe in god and the bible

...so why faith in an invisible, all-powerful man that you cant possibly prove anything about, being there to take care of things, but not faith in what you *live through* just *being there* when you can actually *see feel touch hear and smell* it?

and why *that* god? why not another god or gods that billions of others believe in?

Why do you find it so hard to understand that this thread did not say...

Post why you think everyone who believes in god is wrong... it simply says Why do you believe in god... Can't you just leave well enough alone?

 

[deepred98]

Originally posted by: loic2003

Originally posted by: BigToque

Originally posted by: loic2003
this thread again... another bunch of lamers looking for direction who don't have the balls to figure it out for themselves and so lean back on the belief of a deity so they can just let 'god' do all the work for them.

Seriously, the mental attitude/thought process of the religious is on par with that of a 10 year old kid. Stop believing in fairtytales and move on. Yes, we don't know everything, but that doesn't mean there must be a god. A fair while back, people believed thhunder/lightning was the strike of Thor, the norse god's hammer. Do we still believe this? No. would you look like a fvcking tool if you did still try and drone on and on that "no really, we're not sure about lighning, it must be a god"? Yes you would. As the human race has evolved religions have died out. As we evolve further, so will christianity and islam.

Grow the fvck up and stop thinking like a child. There is no santa, there is no tooth fairy, there is no god/higher being. Get over it.

/religion.

What a well thought out and convincing post.

:roll:

Yours was a crock of sh!t too. I'll paraphrase it for you here:

1) I'm young and impressionable and my girlfriend is part of the god-squad.
2) In a class, some book/idea made an impression on me.
3) One day I felt good
4) Now I believe in god.

I like the bit about blind faith. We understand a huge amount about the universe, but we don't know everything. My faith is in the fact that we may one day figure it out, or at least, if we don't, that what happened is physically possible.

Feeling good for a day!? You clown. What's more likely, an overactive pituitary gland for a day releasing endorphines or "god touching you"?

Like I said, stop believeing in fairytales, kiddo.

wtf did a priest molest you or something

if you don't believe then cool but your acting like a freakin christian crazieor islamic fundementalist (sp?) forcin your nonreligion on others

 

[BurnItDwn]

Does the flying spaghetti monster count?

 

[Vic]

There is a big difference between believing in religion and believing in God.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: loic2003

Originally posted by: BigToque

Originally posted by: loic2003
this thread again... another bunch of lamers looking for direction who don't have the balls to figure it out for themselves and so lean back on the belief of a deity so they can just let 'god' do all the work for them.

Seriously, the mental attitude/thought process of the religious is on par with that of a 10 year old kid. Stop believing in fairtytales and move on. Yes, we don't know everything, but that doesn't mean there must be a god. A fair while back, people believed thhunder/lightning was the strike of Thor, the norse god's hammer. Do we still believe this? No. would you look like a fvcking tool if you did still try and drone on and on that "no really, we're not sure about lighning, it must be a god"? Yes you would. As the human race has evolved religions have died out. As we evolve further, so will christianity and islam.

Grow the fvck up and stop thinking like a child. There is no santa, there is no tooth fairy, there is no god/higher being. Get over it.

/religion.

What a well thought out and convincing post.

:roll:

Yours was a crock of sh!t too. I'll paraphrase it for you here:

1) I'm young and impressionable and my girlfriend is part of the god-squad.
2) In a class, some book/idea made an impression on me.
3) One day I felt good
4) Now I believe in god.

I like the bit about blind faith. We understand a huge amount about the universe, but we don't know everything. My faith is in the fact that we may one day figure it out, or at least, if we don't, that what happened is physically possible.

Feeling good for a day!? You clown. What's more likely, an overactive pituitary gland for a day releasing endorphines or "god touching you"?

Like I said, stop believeing in fairytales, kiddo.

We actually know very little about the universe and most scientists will tell you that.

Your level arrogance is quite remarkable and happens to be completely unfounded.

 

[Amplifier]

hav u evar seen a sunset its prroof enuff 4 me

 

[loic2003]

Originally posted by: Abel007
To stay on topic, I believe in God because something had to create the air we breathe, the trees, the people, etc...with that being said I was indoctrinated as a Southern Baptist and will forever be one. I don't attend church however because I don't believe that churches are doing what they do for the right reasons anymore.

I fixed it for you there, chief.

Originally posted by: Doboji
Why do you find it necessary to be a crusader? Why can't you just STFU and let others have their own beliefs... you don't know anything for sure any more than anyone else... so please... just STFU

One more time... just so we're clear.

STFU

-Max

Whilst many may be of the impression that religion is generally harmless, I personally believe it is a crippling and quite sickening practice that really should be abolishished, made illegal, or at the very least, introduced to youngsters only at a certain age, perhaps around fifteen or sisteen when they have a decent education already, with a little luck.
We all like to hide our kids from the evils of this world; we restrict their viewing of violent games or movies and try to maintain their innocence for as long as neccessary until they can accept, understand and make an educated choice about the path they wish to make through life.
Religion somehow still has missed this scrutiny, however. It is perfectly legal to indoctrinate your child with ancient stories and pass them off as truth. Bizzarly, we expect parental supervision for a mild fictional movie, yet tell them if they don't do as they are told that they will actually go to hell and be burned/tortured for eternity. It's fvcking sick and should not be tolerated by any modern society.
How do you feel rates of belief would go if children were not exposed to any religion until they have had an education? If you hadn't drilled into the mind of an infant an idea, but instead introduced it to a neutral 16 year old, would they snap up the idea and dismiss their scientific roots? I think not.
Would it be acceptible to force a child into a particular political choice/party from infancy? no.

It makes me angry that people are doing this to their kids and noone minds.

I don't care if what I write offends the religious. Breaking from religious shackles isn't going to be easy. Some people hide their head in the sand, others vocally reject and run from it, but at the end of the day what I say makes total sense. Take the plunge, I dare you. Take up thinking, it's fun!

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: Vic
There is a big difference between believing in religion and believing in God.

Bingo!

There are also several views on what god actually is.
I really believe that personifying god has been one of humanities biggest mistakes.

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: loic2003

Originally posted by: Abel007
To stay on topic, I believe in God because something had to create the air we breathe, the trees, the people, etc...with that being said I was indoctrinated as a Southern Baptist and will forever be one. I don't attend church however because I don't believe that churches are doing what they do for the right reasons anymore.

I fixed it for you there, chief.

Originally posted by: Doboji
Why do you find it necessary to be a crusader? Why can't you just STFU and let others have their own beliefs... you don't know anything for sure any more than anyone else... so please... just STFU

One more time... just so we're clear.

STFU

-Max

Whilst many may be of the impression that religion is generally harmless, I personally believe it is a crippling and quite sickening practice that really should be abolishished, made illegal, or at the very least, introduced to youngsters only at a certain age, perhaps around fifteen or sisteen when they have a decent education already, with a little luck.
We all like to hide our kids from the evils of this world; we restrict their viewing of violent games or movies and try to maintain their innocence for as long as neccessary until they can accept, understand and make an educated choice about the path they wish to make through life.
Religion somehow still has missed this scrutiny, however. It is perfectly legal to indoctrinate your child with ancient stories and pass them off as truth. Bizzarly, we expect parental supervision for a mild fictional movie, yet tell them if they don't do as they are told that they will actually go to hell and be burned/tortured for eternity. It's fvcking sick and should not be tolerated by any modern society.
How do you feel rates of belief would go if children were not exposed to any religion until they have had an education? If you hadn't drilled into the mind of an infant an idea, but instead introduced it to a neutral 16 year old, would they snap up the idea and dismiss their scientific roots? I think not.
Would it be acceptible to force a child into a particular political choice/party from infancy? no.

It makes me angry that people are doing this to their kids and noone minds.

I don't care if what I write offends the religious. Breaking from religious shackles isn't going to be easy. Some people hide their head in the sand, others vocally reject and run from it, but at the end of the day what I say makes total sense. Take the plunge, I dare you. Take up thinking, it's fun!

Hey dumbass.... don't you get it...

Religion can be very evil... guess when? When people get angry and attempt to force people to follow their beliefs at any cost.

Funny... because that is EXACTLY what you are advocating...

It's not the belief in religion that is wrong... it is the intolerance of human nature that drives us to ram our beliefs down everyone elses throats..

-Max

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: loic2003

Originally posted by: Abel007
To stay on topic, I believe in God because something had to create the air we breathe, the trees, the people, etc...with that being said I was indoctrinated as a Southern Baptist and will forever be one. I don't attend church however because I don't believe that churches are doing what they do for the right reasons anymore.

I fixed it for you there, chief.

Originally posted by: Doboji
Why do you find it necessary to be a crusader? Why can't you just STFU and let others have their own beliefs... you don't know anything for sure any more than anyone else... so please... just STFU

One more time... just so we're clear.

STFU

-Max

Whilst many may be of the impression that religion is generally harmless, I personally believe it is a crippling and quite sickening practice that really should be abolishished, made illegal, or at the very least, introduced to youngsters only at a certain age, perhaps around fifteen or sisteen when they have a decent education already, with a little luck.
We all like to hide our kids from the evils of this world; we restrict their viewing of violent games or movies and try to maintain their innocence for as long as neccessary until they can accept, understand and make an educated choice about the path they wish to make through life.
Religion somehow still has missed this scrutiny, however. It is perfectly legal to indoctrinate your child with ancient stories and pass them off as truth. Bizzarly, we expect parental supervision for a mild fictional movie, yet tell them if they don't do as they are told that they will actually go to hell and be burned/tortured for eternity. It's fvcking sick and should not be tolerated by any modern society.
How do you feel rates of belief would go if children were not exposed to any religion until they have had an education? If you hadn't drilled into the mind of an infant an idea, but instead introduced it to a neutral 16 year old, would they snap up the idea and dismiss their scientific roots? I think not.
Would it be acceptible to force a child into a particular political choice/party from infancy? no.

It makes me angry that people are doing this to their kids and noone minds.

I don't care if what I write offends the religious. Breaking from religious shackles isn't going to be easy. Some people hide their head in the sand, others vocally reject and run from it, but at the end of the day what I say makes total sense. Take the plunge, I dare you. Take up thinking, it's fun!

The irony is almost eyeball deep in this post.

You are what you seek to destroy.

 

[loic2003]

I see your points, but disagree. I'm not attempting to force a set of ideas upon people, I'm trying to get them to reject ancient ideas and build their own.

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: loic2003
I see your points, but disagree. I'm not attempting to force a set of ideas upon people, I'm trying to get them to reject ancient ideas and build their own.

I dunno dude... calling us stupid children...

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I went to church...was baptised and actually tried to believe. Ultimately, it's all a bunch of horse sh!t.

been there done that... totally agree

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: loic2003
I see your points, but disagree. I'm not attempting to force a set of ideas upon people, I'm trying to get them to reject ancient ideas and build their own.

That's not what you sound like. You sound like someone who would have their (non)religion made into law, which is no different than what any fundamentalist wants. As noted above, you literally are what you seek to destroy. Which is no shocker, most people are.

 

[loic2003]

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: loic2003
I see your points, but disagree. I'm not attempting to force a set of ideas upon people, I'm trying to get them to reject ancient ideas and build their own.

I dunno dude... calling us stupid children...

If you look at the idols at various stages of a child's life they change almost uniformly. From baby to child, parents are like a god to them. There is noone else in their life. Next up often comes a teacher. Soon after this, it's their peers. Previous influences are rejected (the classic stage where a teenager is embarrased by it's parents). Depending upon rate of maturity, the youngster next becomes much more of an individual, not caring what their friends think about them, etc. When adolescents reach this stage, we see them as young adults instead of children.

Looking at this same example, but with humanity being the child, the religious are at the state where they look up to a 'parent' (higher being). I would like to see the child grow up and move on beyond this stage, eventually to hopefully being the mature, free-thinking young adult.

 

[loic2003]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: loic2003
I see your points, but disagree. I'm not attempting to force a set of ideas upon people, I'm trying to get them to reject ancient ideas and build their own.

That's not what you sound like. You sound like someone who would have their (non)religion made into law, which is no different than what any fundamentalist wants. As noted above, you literally are what you seek to destroy. Which is no shocker, most people are.

I would make a law that prevents forcing ideas upon young, easily influenced minds and set a minimum age at which any non-scientific/fictional ideas can be introduced. Naturally, it's a complete impossibility and we all have to wait until the religions still going around fade out/destroy each other (more likely the latter, looking at the news).