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A question for athiests..

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This has been said about 20 times, but perhaps it needs to be said a few more times to drive the point home.

If you think that there probably is not a god because you haven't been able to measure the presence of a god, that is a lot different from having "faith" that there is not a god for some mysterious or mystical reason.

And yes, when you die, your consciousness ends. Your consciousness is just electrical signals in your brain. When the signal fades, your consciousness does the same. This seems fairly obvious to me.
 
Since most people here seem to have that faith, I just have a few curious questions.

Let's assume the Bible really does turn out to be a very well written

Umpossible.

fiction book, and there is no God and no heaven and no hell. Let's skip over, how the big bang started, and just assume it happened and it's explainable, to keep things simple.

Ok so that said now let's talk about death. So what exactly do you believe happens after death? Your consciousness/self awareness can't just end, it has to keep going.

Why?

When you sleep, you are either dreaming, or time "Fast forwards" to when you wake up, either way there is always a full path of self awareness. So how would death work? Does your life just repeat itself but you just don't remember? Or do you get reincarnated and just don't remember your past life? I suppose you could get reincarnated to another planet, once this one is gone such as when the sun burns out. Or do you just see a void for eternity? (that would seriously suck, you can't even be bored to death, because you're already dead!) Something has to happen.

Why?[

What is it?

Nothing.
 
Based on the contents of this thread and the OP's responses, I'd say that either:

1. OP is deliberately trolling.
2. OP is a complete idiot who is incapable of critical thinking.
 
I have a better question for athiests.

What do you yell right before you have an orgasm? Oh God is out of the question...
 
Ok, but explain this fact, energy cannot be created or destroyed. And it require's something in order to maintain it. When we die, the energy in our bodies [ceases] to exist. Where does it go? And more so then not where did it come from in the first place. I'm not saying that you are wrong cause I can agree with a lot of what you have said....I'm trying to grasp of how I want to phrase this cause it could come off the wrong way...

In Japan, they leave departed bodies out due to the belief that it takes 3 days to for the person's essence to completely leave the body. There is a non-theistic belief system in Japan and china but they believe in Reincarnation. There is also a belief in Judaism(more specifically Kabbalaistic beliefs) that the body doesn't obtain a soul until 9 1/2 weeks after you were conceived. Knowing that energy cannot be created or destroyed due to a scientific fact, then an essence would have to be obtained from somewhere or something, if you say your parents then I say how is that possible due to it being threatening to the mother and therefore she would likely die from this process.

I'm not saying that there is a god or that there isn't a god, or that there is an afterlife, cause until you die you don't know, and I don't believe in a Hell or an everlasting Heaven. All I'm saying is this, humanity is flawed in nature, therefore how can one expect to know everything that there is to know when they haven't even researched it or studied it? I have my take on it, but how can you say that my take on things is wrong when you haven't even studied the possiblity that you may have overlooked something?

There is no religion or belief system higher then the truth. What is the truth? Hell if I know, I'm searching for it still.
This assumes there's some kind of mythical "energy" associated with life and consciousness. If there is, we don't seem to have any instruments that can detect it in any conceivable way.
What we do see is that the body functions on chemical energy, some of which is converted into electrical impulses for a few specific functions.
But most of the energy a human body contains is in chemical bonds. You take in food, and combined with oxygen, it can be converted into other chemicals which are metabolized by your body, for things such as maintenance of consciousness, movement, maintaining an elevated body temperature, and all that other fun "living" stuff.

When you die, you continue losing energy to your environment in the form of heat loss, just as you've done your entire life. The only exception is that after death, your body is no longer producing additional heat through normal means. Any electrical impulses produced will also be converted into heat, and dissipated as well. The rest of the energy contained within you is in the form of chemical bonds. They won't really go anywhere without some kind of outside help, which usually comes in the form of bacteria that now get free reign, thanks to the death of your immune system. As they consume you, some of your chemical energy is released as they turn you into other chemicals which power their metabolisms.

And of course, the products of bacterial decay are very basic elements and compounds, which are then typically used by plants, and combined with energy from sunlight, to deliver food back into the chain.

:music: It's the circle of liiiiiiiife :music:

Nothing mythical or supernatural about it, and no laws of physics are broken. You eat food, you die, stuff eats you, and it turns back into food, all of which is ultimately powered by sunlight.



I have a better question for athiests.

What do you yell right before you have an orgasm? Oh God is out of the question...
LEEEEROOOOYYYYYY!!!



JJJEEEEENNNNNKIINNNNSSSS!
 
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In a proper english manner, scream "For England!"

I thought you all just went:
"Yes... yes... yes...

SPLENDID"

and then adjusted your monocle and went back to sipping tea or something.

also, when "working with your hands" do you keep the pinky extended?
 
It is impossible for us to comprehend or imagine ourselves not existing, don't bother trying. Lots of things are impossible for us to imagine, but it doesn't mean those things are impossible. They can still be understood logically and objectively. But you cannot "feel" your way into understanding.

When you die, you cease to exist. There is no blackness, there is nothing. NOTHING. You do not experience non-existence because you do not exist to experience it.
 
Based on the contents of this thread and the OP's responses, I'd say that either:

1. OP is deliberately trolling.
2. OP is a complete idiot who is incapable of critical thinking.
3. OP was raised by religious parents and brainwashed on a daily basis throughout childhood.

That can take a lifetime to outgrow.
 
Ok so that said now let's talk about death. So what exactly do you believe happens after death? Your consciousness/self awareness can't just end
Yep, as far as my awareness goes, that's it, end of saga.

But that's ok, as I sure can't scare myself into believing in a god that would murder 99.9999% of the population on the whole planet in one of it's temper tantrums.
 
(And I can only imagine what it's got to be like for animals, without anyone around to say, "It was only a dream, it was just your brain screwing with you. So if you're thinking of trying to eat my leg like you were dreaming, you'd best reconsider.")

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It is impossible for us to comprehend or imagine ourselves not existing, don't bother trying. Lots of things are impossible for us to imagine, but it doesn't mean those things are impossible. They can still be understood logically and objectively. But you cannot "feel" your way into understanding.

When you die, you cease to exist. There is no blackness, there is nothing. NOTHING. You do not experience non-existence because you do not exist to experience it.
That's what's kind of annoying about the whole idea of "Well...we'll all find out what happens once we die."

No, you won't. Knowing something requires that you are capable of acquiring and storing new information. You can't really do that after your brain has shut down and started to decay.


🙂
One of many reasons why our pets must have really bizarre worldviews. Light is controlled by small sticks on the wall. An infinite supply of food is produced from large boxes. Small invincible red dots sometimes appear here and there.

On an evolutionary scale, they're benefiting from technology that's millions of years ahead of them.🙂
Assuming our species' lineage and technology continues to improve at its impressive pace, Earth-based intelligence of a few million years in the future would probably be utterly terrifying to our simple little primate brains.
 
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That's what's kind of annoying about the whole idea of "Well...we'll all find out what happens once we die."

No, you won't. Knowing something requires that you are capable of acquiring and storing new information. You can't really do that after your brain has shut down and started to decay.

Not necessarily true. That's what happens as we understand it, but it doesn't mean that's actual fact(insert magical stuff here)
 
That's what's kind of annoying about the whole idea of "Well...we'll all find out what happens once we die."

No, you won't. Knowing something requires that you are capable of acquiring and storing new information. You can't really do that after your brain has shut down and started to decay.

but your soul lives FOREVER!!!! FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER! it must repent for your sins
 
So much for keeping this civil. So my original conclusion pretty much remains.

Most atheists are a bunch of Anti God assholes who think they are better than everyone. Fuck you all then. This is my last contribution to this thread. If I could lock it I would.

May you all one of these days, see the light.
 
So much for keeping this civil. So my original conclusion pretty much remains.

Most atheists are a bunch of Anti God assholes who think they are better than everyone. Fuck you all then. This is my last contribution to this thread. If I could lock it I would.

May you all one of these days, see the light.

i'm actually a practicing pastafarian, thanks. I BELIEVE (in a different diety)

I just don't think anything happens after death. I mean it's pretty logical that once the blood/oxygen stops flowing to the brain it's GGPO for your thoughts and memories.
 
So much for keeping this civil. So my original conclusion pretty much remains.

Most atheists are a bunch of Anti God assholes who think they are better than everyone. Fuck you all then. This is my last contribution to this thread. If I could lock it I would.

May you all one of these days, see the light.

What? Except for a couple of people, the majority of this thread has been thoughtful discussion that directly addresses your original question. You have not convincingly refuted most of the genuine posts here, and now you simply declare yourself correct? Amazing...
 
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