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A POLL before the main GE campaigns begins
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conehead433
Diamond Member
Barr, the Libertarian candidate and a former Rebublican, could take votes away from McCain this election. Not that it will be necessary for an Obama win.
Whoozyerdaddy
Lifer
No kidding... I knew what the poll results would be before I even clicked in here... There would be a few indies but pretty much it would break 3:1 to the Dem candidate.
Then comes the "this board breaks so hard left" followed by "voting dem doesn't make you a leftie" crap.
Jaskalas
Lifer
Tried that in 04, and I learned my lesson. Do not vote to keep the undesirable in control of a major political party. They?ll just reaffirm themselves as in control and nominate their fellow brethren next time around. All you?d do is help keep them in power.
If you truly do not desire them, do not vote for them.
PrinceofWands
Lifer
I almost never vote major party, so the poll doesn't have an option for me. About the only time I vote Dem or Rep is when the opposite major party candidate is SO VILE that I have to act to prevent them gaining power (for instance if a neocon is running I will automatically vote for the most likely opposition, no matter what). Doesn't happen all that often really.
I tend towards Libertarian, but also a number of other smaller parties (Green, etc).
I tend towards Libertarian, but also a number of other smaller parties (Green, etc).
DerekWilson
Platinum Member
specifying in my post --
i support Ron Paul and will write his name in.
::EDIT::
to further specify -- not mccain because he has no understading of economics (admittedly), and his foriegn policy will likely be akin to GWB's support of preemptive war, globalization, use of force, etc as signified by his belief in the need for a "League of Democracies" to carry out the will of the US and her allies around the world (I'm not a fan of world government).
not obama because while he would bring our troops home, he won't make any fundamental changes in the foriegn policy that doesn't benefit America while it pisses of the rest of the world. I also do not believe national health care is the right first step towards brining affordable and high quality medical coverage to all Americans (we already have privately socialized medicine and it won't matter much if the state takes over without major changes).
we use money and favor as leverage to exert our national will on other countries under the guise of spreading democracy and freedom while proping up dictators and oppressing those who disagree with us (whether democratically elected or not). whether or not the use of foriegn aid payed by the US taxpayer combined with free trade limiting embargoes and "free trade" agreements (which are anything but) is accompanied by the use of military force is really a small detail. Whether Obama or McCain, we will not change the fact that America is not taking care of herself and her national security is degraded by a foriegn policy that is wildly oppressive and can only solidify anti-american sentiment and inspire the use of terror against us.
I'll not be voting Republicrat in the presidential election this year.
i support Ron Paul and will write his name in.
::EDIT::
to further specify -- not mccain because he has no understading of economics (admittedly), and his foriegn policy will likely be akin to GWB's support of preemptive war, globalization, use of force, etc as signified by his belief in the need for a "League of Democracies" to carry out the will of the US and her allies around the world (I'm not a fan of world government).
not obama because while he would bring our troops home, he won't make any fundamental changes in the foriegn policy that doesn't benefit America while it pisses of the rest of the world. I also do not believe national health care is the right first step towards brining affordable and high quality medical coverage to all Americans (we already have privately socialized medicine and it won't matter much if the state takes over without major changes).
we use money and favor as leverage to exert our national will on other countries under the guise of spreading democracy and freedom while proping up dictators and oppressing those who disagree with us (whether democratically elected or not). whether or not the use of foriegn aid payed by the US taxpayer combined with free trade limiting embargoes and "free trade" agreements (which are anything but) is accompanied by the use of military force is really a small detail. Whether Obama or McCain, we will not change the fact that America is not taking care of herself and her national security is degraded by a foriegn policy that is wildly oppressive and can only solidify anti-american sentiment and inspire the use of terror against us.
I'll not be voting Republicrat in the presidential election this year.
bamacre
Lifer
That's probably not gonna help much. Vote for the LP candidate, IMO, that'll do a lot more good. At the end of the day, the Republicans will see where they lost votes, and they likely won't look at write-ins. I'd kinda like to see the LP candidate ask Paul to be the VP, it would really be the only way they can get a significant amount of votes.
DerekWilson
Platinum Member
the most good paul can do is to stick in the republican party and try to be a voice for conservatives within an organization that hasn't been derailed by the main stream media. jumping ship to the LP will do more harm than good to what will hopefully be a lasting movement toward real conservatism and classical liberalism.
the neocons did a good job of coopting the republican party (and to a lesser extent even the democratic party) for their very unconservative platform -- taking a stand and giving voice to conservative philosophy without allowing the media to write him (or his supporters) off as crazy anarchist Libertarians (not my view -- but the media pulls no punches) is, I think, the best way to push back.
do believe that more conservatives will not vote for mccain on principle and that the libertarian party with both Mike Gravel and Bob Barr on its side offers an attractive protest vote.
while they may not count write ins, those who do write in a vote will still count -- the absolute percentages of those who voted for either party compared to total ballots cast will be decreased by an increase in write in votes.
if i had to guess who WILL win ... well then I guess Obama.
I think (right or wrong) he has inspired his party's supporters to get behind him while McCain has not and likely will not.
Sheik Yerbouti
Lifer
Respected McCain up until he suckled at dubya's teet after dubya and co drug him through the mud, slandered him in every way and McCain asks for a hug. Screw you Johnny, your as spineless as they come now.
Always planned to vote for Barack, now will have a chance to make history as I help to elect the first African American to the office of the president.
Always planned to vote for Barack, now will have a chance to make history as I help to elect the first African American to the office of the president.
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