Good call Jaimie. I'd still be shy of early AM2 stuff b/c I'm not a big fan of first revisions of things. This doesn't have to be CPU's; the Nintendo DS is a good example. More on topic, there is a "you never know" factor. Jaimie explains why my early adoption concerns don't really apply to AM2, but you never know. Who knows what will change with these CPU's and/or chipset's in a year or so.
There is one strong argument in FAVOUR of AM2, and that's the low-cost Sempron.
Instead of 754-vs-939 battles and upgradability, you can get a $100 AM2 nForce 6100 board (with free IGP if you want it) and $80 Sempron processor. Cheap now, upgradable later.
Instead of 754-vs-939 battles and upgradability, you can get a $100 AM2 nForce 6100 board (with free IGP if you want it) and $80 Sempron processor. Cheap now, upgradable later.
Well in this case there is a point..........Yesterdays technology performs on the same level as todays technology.
Until AM2 has more to offer (more motherboard choice, more DDR2 memory/better timings) and can beat out 939 (by more then 5%), ill stick with 939.
If you plan on upgrading your CPU within the next 12 months, you are wasting your money going 939 now (since this will require a new CPU/MB/RAM). Just wait for Conroe or when more AM2 parts are available. Otherwise, you are just throwing money down the drain.
How am i throwing money down the drain?
Im building a new computer on the 939 platform. If i want to upgrade anything in the next year, it will be graphics only. Then when i feel the market is right, ill sell off and rebuild again, based on the newest/most reliable/best performing socket or CPU out at the time.
Doesnt seem like a waste to me. Sitting around, hoping everything plays out ok seems like a waste.
Why aren't you looking at a 550 or 570 chipset board for AM2? If your getting an nForce4 Ultra board if you go 939, for 15 bucks more you can get an MSI K9N 570 SLI board. DDR2 is cheaper then DDR and the X2 4000+ AM2 is cheaper then the Opteron 170 939. If you picked comparable components, it would actually be cheaper for you to go AM2 and you'd have atleast a potential upgrade path. Unless you plan to upgrade to a dual core sempron in a year...
Because i dont want to jump into things until the market gets a foothold and more mobos become available. I want options, and as of right now, there are virtually none.
Yeah, I told you to buy AM2, but ultimately 939 is a better choice and I am going to be buying a s939 rig soon too.
Which socket will the dual-core Sempron be on? 754? 939? I know there's Semprons for AM2 already....
True: its a waste of money if ur looking to UPGRADE from 939 to AM2. If you are starting out from scratch, then just go for AM2. In a week or so, the net will be flooded with AM2 motherboard reviews using the whole line of CPUs. Overclocking/Maturity secrets will be revealed and u will be at peace.
BTW, the ASUS M2N32-SLI is a ultra-high-end, nforce 590 SLI motherboard (Both PCIe 16X slots at full bandwidth) with LinkBoost technology (that does absolutely nothing) - hardly comparable to the 939 A8N-E you are looking at. The M2N32-SLI is the spiritual successor to the A8N32-SLI.
The MSI K9N Platinum SLI is selling a full $100 cheaper. The non-SLI MSI goes down another $20. Look for reviews on that board specifically. Monday morning may turn up several new reviews. Since 939/AM2 will run you the same amount, its better to buy something cutting-edge (and I really doubt the new wave of mobos will be catastrophic failures...if people can OC engineering-sample Conroes 50%-or-so on unsupported motherboards, I don't think ASUS/MSI will screw up their AM2 launch products).
But thats really the problem........i dont want to get an MSI mobo. I want to stick with either Epox (which doesnt have an AM2 board yet) or Asus (which thiers is $140 more then my current 939, but its worth it). Like i said, i want to wait until theres more of a selection.
I was under the impression that AMD would continue to offer new CPUs for socket 939. It's been stated that 939 will stick around until Q1 2007 for performance desktop CPUs and until 2008 for Semprons. However, I believe that ALL of the future CPUs announced by AMD are, indeed, for socket AM2.
I think that it would NOT be a good idea to buy a socket 939 mobo right now, IF you plan to buy a very advanced CPU, because it will leave you no upgrade path. However, if one could be satisfied to start economically with something like an A64 3800+, for example, then in a few years, chips like the FX60 or X2-4800+ will be quite inexpensive and provide a very reasonable upgrade.
That said, I'd try to buy neither a 939 nor an AM2 board. I'd wait a few months and get something that will take Intel's new Core 2 Duo (Conroe) CPU. As soon as it hits the market in a month or so, Intel will have regained its long-lost ascendancy over AMD in price, heat production, and performance. For the first time in a long while, the most appropriate question a system builder must ask is "Intel or AMD?" It looks as though the answer is changing as we speak.
I think that it would NOT be a good idea to buy a socket 939 mobo right now, IF you plan to buy a very advanced CPU, because it will leave you no upgrade path. However, if one could be satisfied to start economically with something like an A64 3800+, for example, then in a few years, chips like the FX60 or X2-4800+ will be quite inexpensive and provide a very reasonable upgrade.
That said, I'd try to buy neither a 939 nor an AM2 board. I'd wait a few months and get something that will take Intel's new Core 2 Duo (Conroe) CPU. As soon as it hits the market in a month or so, Intel will have regained its long-lost ascendancy over AMD in price, heat production, and performance. For the first time in a long while, the most appropriate question a system builder must ask is "Intel or AMD?" It looks as though the answer is changing as we speak.
Well im definatly not waiting. My build has to be done by the end of june.
If i can get some good reviews on the MSI board, or if a new board is released by Asus or Epox in the next 3 weeks, ill go AM2. Otherwise its socket 939 for me.
Did you even read your own first post?
That means that when you want to upgrade the CPU, you are going to have to replace your motherboard and RAM at the same time too. That is a lot to have to buy again just so you have more MB choices, but that's just me.
Like a lot of other people have already said, AM2 is the worst choice in the world if you are looking to upgrade a top of the line 939 setup. But it just makes sense to go AM2 if you are starting from scratch.
But this is your choice. Good luck with the new build. I just wish I could build another system too
Well, depending on what reviews say once i order the CPU, Mobo and Memory, ill either go with AM2 or 939
Well im definatly not waiting. My build has to be done by the end of june.
If i can get some good reviews on the MSI board, or if a new board is released by Asus or Epox in the next 3 weeks, ill go AM2. Otherwise its socket 939 for me.[/quote]
Reasonable.
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