A Must Read Editorial

Isla

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Wake Up Call

I don't care what your politics are, it is a damn good read.

<---loves it when someone cranks out something that pops like this
 

AndrewR

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Originally posted by: Isla
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Wake Up Call

I don't care what your politics are, it is a damn good read.

<---loves it when someone cranks out something that pops like this

Done after the first few sentences (though I read the whole thing). Your politics are obvious if you consider that a "damn good read". An angry "enlightened" liberal with access to the internet -- perfect author for "spewout" but hardly something I consider worthy of even the most loose definition of quality.

I guess that makes me a troglogyte to those who agree with that author. Thank you for the compliment.
 

Isla

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Originally posted by: AndrewR
Originally posted by: Isla
:D

Wake Up Call

I don't care what your politics are, it is a damn good read.

<---loves it when someone cranks out something that pops like this

Done after the first few sentences (though I read the whole thing). Your politics are obvious if you consider that a "damn good read". An angry "enlightened" liberal with access to the internet -- perfect author for "spewout" but hardly something I consider worthy of even the most loose definition of quality.

I guess that makes me a troglogyte to those who agree with that author. Thank you for the compliment.

LOL!

No, I'm actually very apolitical. What I am is a writer who can appreciate creative phrases! Some of his word choices and imagery are quite tasty, whether it was about the Bush administration or the Clinton administration wouldn't matter to me. But it's nice to see other people get so riled up, hehe.


<---assumes you must think Coulter is a great writer? :p

(edit) PS, you really shouldn't take such things seriously. Especially when undigested corn analogies are being used!
 

freegeeks

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Originally posted by: AndrewR
Originally posted by: Isla
:D

Wake Up Call

I don't care what your politics are, it is a damn good read.

<---loves it when someone cranks out something that pops like this

Done after the first few sentences (though I read the whole thing). Your politics are obvious if you consider that a "damn good read". An angry "enlightened" liberal with access to the internet -- perfect author for "spewout" but hardly something I consider worthy of even the most loose definition of quality.

I guess that makes me a troglogyte to those who agree with that author. Thank you for the compliment.


I just think it's funny
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: AndrewR
Originally posted by: Isla
:D

Wake Up Call

I don't care what your politics are, it is a damn good read.

<---loves it when someone cranks out something that pops like this

Done after the first few sentences (though I read the whole thing). Your politics are obvious if you consider that a "damn good read". An angry "enlightened" liberal with access to the internet -- perfect author for "spewout" but hardly something I consider worthy of even the most loose definition of quality.

I guess that makes me a troglogyte to those who agree with that author. Thank you for the compliment.
See, you can lead a horse to water.........
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Reminds me in a way of the speech the android made to the bounty hunter near the end of the film Blade Runner as his allotted time ran out:

"BATTY: I?ve seen things...(long pause) seen things you little people wouldn?t believe... Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion bright as magnesium... I rode on the back decks of a blinker and watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate.
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A Zen master watch as a thief crept into his hut and stole his bowl, the only possession he had. Looking at the sky he thought, too bad I can't give him that moon.
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This part of the editorial was just devastating to me was this:

"You are of zero nutritional value and are indigestible like corn and just pass right through."

I couldn't help but think of one of my buddies here. :D
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As nice as the article was, filled with passion and truth, I find a problem with it. It is filled with rage. And why not. The Bush types are a slime on life. It's true. But the author feels the slime on him. He isn't as free as he claims nor does he see the enemy as meaningless as he pretends. He has the intention to hurt back for all the harm that's being caused. But it seems to me that for the man or woman of real knowledge there is nothing to do but love. All these monsters exist because of a lack of love. And all their self pride in how they are is because of how deeply they were hurt. They have turned life into getting even, and if you do so yourself you only add to the game.

I see the real Christian as an ink blotter. Through crucifixion he sucks up the hate.


 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Yet Another Angry Whining Liberal post?

I don't think so.

Certainly sounds like the Nation is pissed (except for the few in the top part of the caste) and has good reason to be.

Problem is who would be voted for to replace the current administration?

It's another Rock and Hard place all over again.



 

Isla

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: AndrewR
Originally posted by: Isla
:D

Wake Up Call

I don't care what your politics are, it is a damn good read.

<---loves it when someone cranks out something that pops like this

Done after the first few sentences (though I read the whole thing). Your politics are obvious if you consider that a "damn good read". An angry "enlightened" liberal with access to the internet -- perfect author for "spewout" but hardly something I consider worthy of even the most loose definition of quality.

I guess that makes me a troglogyte to those who agree with that author. Thank you for the compliment.
See, you can lead a horse to water.........
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Reminds me in a way of the speech the android made to the bounty hunter near the end of the film Blade Runner as his allotted time ran out:

"BATTY: I?ve seen things...(long pause) seen things you little people wouldn?t believe... Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion bright as magnesium... I rode on the back decks of a blinker and watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate.
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A Zen master watch as a thief crept into his hut and stole his bowl, the only possession he had. Looking at the sky he thought, too bad I can't give him that moon.
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This part of the editorial was just devastating to me was this:

"You are of zero nutritional value and are indigestible like corn and just pass right through."

I couldn't help but think of one of my buddies here. :D
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As nice as the article was, filled with passion and truth, I find a problem with it. It is filled with rage. And why not. The Bush types are a slime on life. It's true. But the author feels the slime on him. He isn't as free as he claims nor does he see the enemy as meaningless as he pretends. He has the intention to hurt back for all the harm that's being caused. But it seems to me that for the man or woman of real knowledge there is nothing to do but love. All these monsters exist because of a lack of love. And all their self pride in how they are is because of how deeply they were hurt. They have turned life into getting even, and if you do so yourself you only add to the game.

I see the real Christian as an ink blotter. Through crucifixion he sucks up the hate.

I agree with you, Moonbeam. Reading over the Tao Te Ching, I am reminided that this is not the way.

But the corn analogy was just so rich... :D

 

Zebo

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This guy has an self-denial problem and the administration is obviously "touching him" on a personel level. Barley comprehesible and full of anger.
 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: Zebo
This guy has an self-denial problem and the administration is obviously "touching him" on a personel level. Barley comprehesible and full of anger.

So basically like anything Michael Moore has ever created?
 

Corn

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Here it is: You are immaterial. You are of zero nutritional value and are indigestible like corn and just pass right through. Do you understand?

I especially enjoyed that part.




Well, maybe not, but as a whole I did find that piece to be somewhat satisfying, if only for the irony that the overall presentation was an exercise by the author of vocalizing his frustrated realization that he lacks the power to control. Yes, very amusing.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Zebo
This guy has an self-denial problem and the administration is obviously "touching him" on a personel level. Barley comprehesible and full of anger.
Zebo, what exactly do you mean by "touched on a personal level"? You saw how poorly (violently) we reacted to 9/11. What's gonna be the reaction when you see Bush essentially doing that to the world every day in a thousand more subtle ways. Bush is anti life and the author's anti-anti-life, but anti-life is life too, somewhere deep down. Unless you have the answer to evil (unconsciousness) in the world maybe you shouldn't be to quick to condemn. How do you feel about things full of anger? What does your reaction mean? Does this author 'touch you on a personal level'?

 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Corn
Here it is: You are immaterial. You are of zero nutritional value and are indigestible like corn and just pass right through. Do you understand?

I especially enjoyed that part.




Well, maybe not, but as a whole I did find that piece to be somewhat satisfying, if only for the irony that the overall presentation was an exercise by the author of vocalizing his frustrated realization that he lacks the power to control. Yes, very amusing.
Nothing more controlling than those who point to another?s lack of control.

Nothing less honest than calling disgust 'being amused'.
 

Zebo

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I mean ----. The author claims Bush and the administrations decisions and personas "can't touch him" while at the same time viceral feelings bleed though his article. Then about the incomprehesible part I mean the administrations actions will shape the charachter of this country and it's people for many years after bush is gone... However the author seems to indicate it will have no effect. I don't think he graps it will or maybe he's an alien observing with indifference. Either way not funny IMHO.

Touch me? NO he brought up points I agree with even but I feel hyperbole and indifference is better left to those on the dark side.
 

Corn

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Nothing more controlling than those who point to another?s lack of control.

Really? That's an interesting fallacy...........

Nothing less honest than calling disgust 'being amused'.

Whatever gives you the impression that I feel anything other than amusement at the author's impotent and base impersonation of Dennis Miller?

Besides, one can be amused and disgusted at the same time--evidenced by the proliferation of the Friday The 13th franchise.
 

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After reading this "editorial", and going to the website, I can only ask this question," can liberals find anything good in our country to comment on while there is a Republican in the Whitehouse'? One gets the idea that as soon as a Republican gets in the Whitehouse everything goes to sh#t and the only way to fix it is by putting in a Democrat. Why can't these public servants do what they were hired to do... make this country a better place to live.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Zebo
I mean ----. The author claims Bush and the administrations decisions and personas "can't touch him" while at the same time viceral feelings bleed though his article. Then about the incomprehesible part I mean the administrations actions will shape the charachter of this country and it's people for many years after bush is gone... However the author seems to indicate it will have no effect. I don't think he graps it will or maybe he's an alien observing with indifference. Either way not funny IMHO.

Touch me? NO he brought up points I agree with even but I feel hyperbole and indifference is better left to those on the dark side.

On the can't touch and bleed through we both agree. Many years, from the perspective of some greater truth could actually be a short time. Take out the anger and the editorial makes an interesting point. In the great scheme of things we are all dust. Where does our pretension come from and wouldn't it be nice if we could see it for what is, spitting into the wind. The alien point, I think, is critical. I am constantly astounded, which of course means that I'm never surprised at all by the inevitable assumption that a lack of negative emotion is seen as the equivalent of indifference. The lover is not indifferent to the fate of the world. It's just that negative emotion is not among his palate of tools. I agree also with the thrust of your last sentence except in on way. "...but I feel hyperbole and indifference is better left to those on the dark side.", is not a feeling, it's an opinion, feelings, love rage grief, are not big words. My question is how do you feel about those who don't leave such matters to the dark side. That's how you were personally touched. I'm saying that negative emotions evoke negative reactions. When the other guy has them he's a jerk, but when we do it's because we think our reaction's the proper one, just like the original person did about his own. We are that to which we point. If we are ever going to bring the pointing to and end, it's ourselves we have to see.
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Originally posted by: Corn
Nothing more controlling than those who point to another?s lack of control.

Really? That's an interesting fallacy...........

Nothing less honest than calling disgust 'being amused'.

Whatever gives you the impression that I feel anything other than amusement at the author's impotent and base impersonation of Dennis Miller?

Besides, one can be amused and disgusted at the same time--evidenced by the proliferation of the Friday The 13th franchise.

Hyperbolic, yes, fallacy, no, but I'd be interested in your case. Care to make it?

Who is Dennis Miller, a way to introduce extraneous particulars into an argument to change the nature of the debate? The author's point that Bush is a flea bight on the ass of time is not an impotent argument, it's just that you'd feel impotent trying to make that case. You are temperamentally unsuited to it. You like to win here and now. In short you are projecting. I'm not inclined, however, to spend a lot of time explaining why I think you are more than just amused since in the next breath you suggest you can be both that and disgusted at the same time. Amusement accompanying and related to disgust I call superciliousness. It's a form of posturing.


 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: DZip
After reading this "editorial", and going to the website, I can only ask this question," can liberals find anything good in our country to comment on while there is a Republican in the Whitehouse'? One gets the idea that as soon as a Republican gets in the Whitehouse everything goes to sh#t and the only way to fix it is by putting in a Democrat. Why can't these public servants do what they were hired to do... make this country a better place to live.
Because what you call better other people call destroying the world. All that's required for evil to succeed is for good people to stand by and do nothing.

 

Zebo

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You are way over analizing this morning. And assuming. Read your fisrt post and that is exactly what i meant.
"As nice as the article was, filled with passion and truth,(ZEBO SAYS:he brought up points I agree with even ) I find a problem with it. It is filled with rage.(ZEBO SAYS: full of anger.) And why not. The Bush types are a slime on life. It's true. But the author feels the slime on him.(ZEBO SAYS:viceral feelings bleed though his article.) He isn't as free as he claims nor does he see the enemy as meaningless as he pretends.(ZEBO SAYS: author claims Bush and the administrations decisions and personas "can't touch him" .... administrations actions will shape the charachter of this country and it's people for many years after bush is gone... However the author seems to indicate it will have no effect.) He has the intention to hurt back for all the harm that's being caused. But it seems to me that for the man or woman of real knowledge there is nothing to do but love. (ZEBO SAYS:indifference is better left to those on the dark side.)"
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Zebo
You are way over analizing this morning. And assuming. Read your fisrt post and that is exactly what i meant.
"As nice as the article was, filled with passion and truth,(ZEBO SAYS:he brought up points I agree with even ) I find a problem with it. It is filled with rage.(ZEBO SAYS: full of anger.) And why not. The Bush types are a slime on life. It's true. But the author feels the slime on him.(ZEBO SAYS:viceral feelings bleed though his article.) He isn't as free as he claims nor does he see the enemy as meaningless as he pretends.(ZEBO SAYS: author claims Bush and the administrations decisions and personas "can't touch him" .... administrations actions will shape the charachter of this country and it's people for many years after bush is gone... However the author seems to indicate it will have no effect.) He has the intention to hurt back for all the harm that's being caused. But it seems to me that for the man or woman of real knowledge there is nothing to do but love. (ZEBO SAYS:indifference is better left to those on the dark side.)"
What does Zebo mean when he says that indifference is better left to those on the dark side. I ask because neither Bush, the author nor love are indifferent, in my opinion? What is this indifference to which you refer?

 

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Originally posted by: DZip
After reading this "editorial", and going to the website, I can only ask this question," can liberals find anything good in our country to comment on while there is a Republican in the Whitehouse'? One gets the idea that as soon as a Republican gets in the Whitehouse everything goes to sh#t and the only way to fix it is by putting in a Democrat. Why can't these public servants do what they were hired to do... make this country a better place to live.

The conservatives did the same exact thing when Clinton was in office. Hell, they just didn't write angry editorials, they impeached him.

 

Nitemare

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Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Originally posted by: DZip
After reading this "editorial", and going to the website, I can only ask this question," can liberals find anything good in our country to comment on while there is a Republican in the Whitehouse'? One gets the idea that as soon as a Republican gets in the Whitehouse everything goes to sh#t and the only way to fix it is by putting in a Democrat. Why can't these public servants do what they were hired to do... make this country a better place to live.

The conservatives did the same exact thing when Clinton was in office. Hell, they just didn't write angry editorials, they impeached him.

He perjured himself....He lied under oath about a friggin blowjob even though everyone knew that it happened. If he would lie under oath about a blowjob, what else would he lie about?
 

flavio

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I wonder if he would of lied so he could kill thousands of people?
 

Vic

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While somewhat childishly written (or was that on purpose?), I think it touches upon an important point. This administration is trying to get itself involved in aspects of our private and personal lives that most people do not want it involved in.
I think the writing is on the wall for GW. And while I am by no means a "liberal," I'd rather have the blowjob king in office than the power-mad d!ckhead who wants to track my every credit card purchase. Damn neocons have wrecked the good name of Conservatism, let me tell you... :|