A Microsoft Tablet???

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Skel

Skel

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poofyhairguy said:
Business users will find the ARM version of Office lacking:

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/enterpr...on-windows-rt-tablets-be-banned-in-businesses

I completely don't understand MS's ARM stradegy. It is almost as if they want that side to fail so they can tell shareholders "We tried to go toe to toe with the iPad and no one wanted it. x86 is our future."


I am also a little disappointed Gates wasn't there in some capacity. I know he is long gone, but this stuff is his ten year old tablet dream coming to life!
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Sounds more like they want business to pony up the money for the Office Pro. That’s really nothing new to their strategy of creating two markets, the home consumer and the business pro.

Gates being there would be a huge slap across the current leadership’s face, and would be pretty stupid for them. How can you get anyone to start trusting the leadership when the old one keeps coming out all the time.
 
Ns1

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poofyhairguy said:
Business users will find the ARM version of Office lacking:

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/enterpr...on-windows-rt-tablets-be-banned-in-businesses

I completely don't understand MS's ARM stradegy. It is almost as if they want that side to fail so they can tell shareholders "We tried to go toe to toe with the iPad and no one wanted it. x86 is our future."


I am also a little disappointed Gates wasn't there in some capacity. I know he is long gone, but this stuff is his ten year old tablet dream coming to life!
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Not seeing where it will be lacking. The "non commercial" bit sure as hell won't stop me from taking my personal surface to work.
 
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Dominato3r

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poofyhairguy said:
Business users will find the ARM version of Office lacking:

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/enterpr...on-windows-rt-tablets-be-banned-in-businesses

I completely don't understand MS's ARM stradegy. It is almost as if they want that side to fail so they can tell shareholders "We tried to go toe to toe with the iPad and no one wanted it. x86 is our future."


I am also a little disappointed Gates wasn't there in some capacity. I know he is long gone, but this stuff is his ten year old tablet dream coming to life!
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I dont think they want ARM in businesses from most of their decisions. No legacy applications plus you can't join a domain on RT devices.

Plus I don't think they want the Surface to be a number one selling device. It's more of a wakeup call to some OEMs who are essentially porting Windows 8 to existing Android tablets. They want their partners to know that this is the time to do something different and create a whole new set of experiences for Windows 8.
 
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dagamer34

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When full copies of Office easily go for $600, there's good reason for not wanting businesses to go with the RT version of Windows. It included OneNote instead of Outlook for a very good reason.
 
podspi

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What a bummer, the official spec sheet does leave out inking capability on the RT model. I was kind of hoping I could pick up the RT model and retire my old Wacom-enabled Core 2 Duo laptop.
 
poofyhairguy

poofyhairguy

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Skel said:
Sounds more like they want business to pony up the money for the Office Pro. That’s really nothing new to their strategy of creating two markets, the home consumer and the business pro.
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The "consumer" market is the iPad's market. If they really want that to succeed they need to pull out the stops because in that market they start off at a disadvantage.

Honestly I am starting to think that the ARM models will be in secondary markets rather than compete toe to toe with the iPad in Europe and the US.

Gates being there would be a huge slap across the current leadership’s face, and would be pretty stupid for them. How can you get anyone to start trusting the leadership when the old one keeps coming out all the time.
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Gates didn't need to do the whole keynote, just make an appearance. Something at the end like:

"And as you have guessed, today's tablet strategy is the realization of a dream of someone near and dear to our hearts.....

(Drum Role)

Mr. Gates!!!"

Gates steps out and takes a bow, talks about how he long believed in this future and what a great group MS has today to make that dream into a reality.

(Curtain Falls)


Without Jobs the market needs some drama at these presentations. It would be a cool way to connect to a former and more successful MS of the past.

And finally, there is no "new" leadership at the top of MS- the leaders have been in place for a while. If they want us to trust them they need another hit like they haven't had since the Xbox 360.
 
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Dominato3r

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Well they did acknowledge Bill and Paul Allen. Something along the lines of how the foundation of Microsoft is built upon software and the unique bet Gates and Allen made there. Along with how hardware was introduced by them when they deemed it was critical to the experience.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jozTK-MqEXQ&feature=youtu.be&t=3m35s

I think Bill still hangs around but focuses more on search,i f you looked at the few interviews he did before his full-time departure he was pretty anal about search.
 
poofyhairguy

poofyhairguy

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That is good they did acknowledge him. I don't know, I guess I wanted a modern recreation of this pic:

gates-xp-tablet-PC.jpg
 
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Puddle Jumper

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Ns1 said:
Cap. stylus are useful for draw something and mark up, but terrible for any actual writing. Thanks for the remarks on the Adonit, was actually considering one.
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The Jot actually is recognized well now that I found a decent app but the lack of palm rejection still hurts it compared to an active digitizer. If you are on Android give Supernote a try, its bundled with the Transformer so you have to get the .apk from Xda developers but it's pretty slick.
 
finbarqs

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Puddle Jumper said:
The Jot actually is recognized well now that I found a decent app but the lack of palm rejection still hurts it compared to an active digitizer. If you are on Android give Supernote a try, its bundled with the Transformer so you have to get the .apk from Xda developers but it's pretty slick.
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Jot is just okay. You'd have to get it at a good angle, otherwise it will not write. There are sensitivity issues, along with the stupid disc that keeps breaking (the thing that makes the "capacitive pen work". It's mediocre at best, but better than the other stupid capacitive stylus. It looses something to gain something else much more useful!

from the keynote, it looks like the pen stylus on the Pro edition reminds me of the wacom pens.. perhaps pressure sensitivity?
 
finbarqs

finbarqs

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lol... but Microsoft has a reputation for being "unstable". So if an Apple device crashes during a presentation, people will think "Oh that's just a bad unit". But when a Microsoft unit crashes, people will think "ROFLMAO BSOD!!! That's Windows for you!"
 
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Mopetar

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finbarqs said:
lol... but Microsoft has a reputation for being "unstable". So if an Apple device crashes during a presentation, people will think "Oh that's just a bad unit". But when a Microsoft unit crashes, people will think "ROFLMAO BSOD!!! That's Windows for you!"
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I had used a Mac before OS X, and System 7 was almost as much of a buggy pile of mess as Windows 95/98 were. It's just that so few people actually used them that they have no memory of how crash prone they were.

And really, since Windows switched to the NT kernel with Windows 2000 and Apple changed to using OS X, both have been pretty solid. I can't recall a crash on Windows 7 in recent memory and the only time I've seen OS X crash was due to a hardware failure.
 
zephyrprime

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Dominato3r said:
To be honest they did have the vision for a tablet a long time ago but just didn't execute well on the software

That's the blogosphere. MS didnt spit a word on this, people just hyped it themselves.
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And their partners didn't execute it well on the hardware side. The devices were too big and too expesive since they were full computers instead of something small and light enough to be held in one hand.
 
Eug

Eug

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Mopetar said:
I had used a Mac before OS X, and System 7 was almost as much of a buggy pile of mess as Windows 95/98 were. It's just that so few people actually used them that they have no memory of how crash prone they were.

And really, since Windows switched to the NT kernel with Windows 2000 and Apple changed to using OS X, both have been pretty solid. I can't recall a crash on Windows 7 in recent memory and the only time I've seen OS X crash was due to a hardware failure.
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Yes, System 7 to OS 9 sucked ass. I bought a Mac when Mac OS X 10.1 came out.

Unfortunately, I couldn't use Windows NT, because there was no real USB support.
 
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darkewaffle

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finbarqs said:
lol... but Microsoft has a reputation for being "unstable". So if an Apple device crashes during a presentation, people will think "Oh that's just a bad unit". But when a Microsoft unit crashes, people will think "ROFLMAO BSOD!!! That's Windows for you!"
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If you're still using WinME, then sure.
 
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