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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
Originally posted by: Tabb
Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: Buz2b
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
:yawn:

This old chestnut again?

How about something Nazi releated with some real relevance?
On 8th November, 1923, the Bavarian government held a meeting of about 3,000 officials. While Gustav von Kahr, the leader of the Bavarian government was making a speech, Hitler and armed stormtroopers entering the building. Hitler jumped onto a table, fired two shots in the air and told the audience that the Munich Putsch was taking place and the National Revolution had began.

Leaving Hermann Goering and the SA [the real brown shirts!] to guard the 3,000 officials, Hitler took Gustav von Kahr, Otto von Lossow, the commander of the Bavarian Army and Hans von Seisser, the commandant of the Bavarian State Police into an adjoining room. Hitler told the men that he was to be the new leader of Germany and offered them posts in his new government. Aware that this would be an act of high treason, the three men were initially reluctant to agree to this offer. Hitler was furious and threatened to shoot them and then commit suicide: "I have three bullets for you, gentlemen, and one for me!" After this the three men agreed.
Now, when this sort of thing happens during an election, you can post such tripe from a Nazi and give it real consideration. Until then it's completely meaningless.
Yeah, but it did sorta happen. Are you denying it did?

Yes, I am denying it just as YOU seem to want to deny that the attacks took place on 9/11. How easily you forget. Bush didn't seek this war, the terrorists did. What an idiotic comparison to make. It's almost comical how the left will seek far and wide to find some sort of negative comparison to throw at the right. You are truely the party of failure. America has to fail for you to look good. That doesn't say much for the Dems but then you really can't anyway.
One last thing to really get under your thin skin, we're called the Right wing because it's just that.....RIGHT. :laugh:

Actually you are the right because of the way the different political parties were placed in the french administration before the french revolution, but i'm sure you knew that.

I believe the OP has a point. Because all the commercials have either concentrated on either Kerry being a flip-flopper (i can't see why this even matters...), or stating that Kerry can't take care of this country, and thereby implying that you will be attacked if he wins the precidency, fear is a result hereof.
Not only that, but there has been lots of signs of america growing towards a mild form of fascism:
The extreme amount of flags
The very "us or them" mentality you have. Like non-american deaths don't matter, how you mindlesly follow the president into war apparently searching for wmd, even though you've heard from people actually in the country that there were none. The mass of americans that actually believe that, as they hinted in the white house, Iraq had connections with 9-11. The blind following of the presidency iow. How much the left has been attacked for being "unpatriotic," Fox is a magnificent example here. The severe lack of trust you have of ANYTHING/ANYBODY not american! What, 80% of the world hates gwb and wants him out of office? I'm one of them as you probably have guessed.

Yuo must still remember, that Hitler got into office democratically, and that he while governing actually held elections, where 98% of the population actually supported him.

The only reason you haven't turned fascist is because of the media. It's much harder to limit the amount of information the population would recieve, which is the basis for fascism. This is also the reason i think you won't turn completely fascist, and that you'll some day revert your opinions and look back upon them as being foolish. Which is also why i was happy at 9-11, because things like these usually work as a wake-up call, like in spain. But you were just to far in the process. (I wasn't happy because of the people killed, understand that.)

I can tell you have never studied German history. And comparing Hitler's rise to power to Bush's win is plain idiotic. Yea, the US is coming off of a war in which we lost, and were destroyed both economically and militarily. We also are coming off of a monarchial rule and are seaching for a place back in western society...
Now I know why I stay out of P&N, and spend most of my time lurking. Your statements are pure drivel.

Again, like a sheep you insult the author of the article. You don't attack what he wrote you attack him, you say he hasn't studied German History but do nothing to prove him wrong.
Nothing to prove him wrong? I don't have the time nor the energy to type out what is easily found in history books. Read up on German history from 1845-1945, and you will clearly see how and why Hitler came into power. If you would like some references, please let me know, and when I get off work, I will send them to you.
And comparing Hitler's rise to power to Bush's win is plain idiotic. Yea, the US is coming off of a war in which we lost, and were destroyed both economically and militarily. We also are coming off of a monarchial rule and are seaching for a place back in western society...

Don't send them to me, post your references on this thread.
 

Forsythe

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Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: Buz2b
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
:yawn:

This old chestnut again?

How about something Nazi releated with some real relevance?
On 8th November, 1923, the Bavarian government held a meeting of about 3,000 officials. While Gustav von Kahr, the leader of the Bavarian government was making a speech, Hitler and armed stormtroopers entering the building. Hitler jumped onto a table, fired two shots in the air and told the audience that the Munich Putsch was taking place and the National Revolution had began.

Leaving Hermann Goering and the SA [the real brown shirts!] to guard the 3,000 officials, Hitler took Gustav von Kahr, Otto von Lossow, the commander of the Bavarian Army and Hans von Seisser, the commandant of the Bavarian State Police into an adjoining room. Hitler told the men that he was to be the new leader of Germany and offered them posts in his new government. Aware that this would be an act of high treason, the three men were initially reluctant to agree to this offer. Hitler was furious and threatened to shoot them and then commit suicide: "I have three bullets for you, gentlemen, and one for me!" After this the three men agreed.
Now, when this sort of thing happens during an election, you can post such tripe from a Nazi and give it real consideration. Until then it's completely meaningless.
Yeah, but it did sorta happen. Are you denying it did?

Yes, I am denying it just as YOU seem to want to deny that the attacks took place on 9/11. How easily you forget. Bush didn't seek this war, the terrorists did. What an idiotic comparison to make. It's almost comical how the left will seek far and wide to find some sort of negative comparison to throw at the right. You are truely the party of failure. America has to fail for you to look good. That doesn't say much for the Dems but then you really can't anyway.
One last thing to really get under your thin skin, we're called the Right wing because it's just that.....RIGHT. :laugh:

Actually you are the right because of the way the different political parties were placed in the french administration before the french revolution, but i'm sure you knew that.

I believe the OP has a point. Because all the commercials have either concentrated on either Kerry being a flip-flopper (i can't see why this even matters...), or stating that Kerry can't take care of this country, and thereby implying that you will be attacked if he wins the precidency, fear is a result hereof.
Not only that, but there has been lots of signs of america growing towards a mild form of fascism:
The extreme amount of flags
The very "us or them" mentality you have. Like non-american deaths don't matter, how you mindlesly follow the president into war apparently searching for wmd, even though you've heard from people actually in the country that there were none. The mass of americans that actually believe that, as they hinted in the white house, Iraq had connections with 9-11. The blind following of the presidency iow. How much the left has been attacked for being "unpatriotic," Fox is a magnificent example here. The severe lack of trust you have of ANYTHING/ANYBODY not american! What, 80% of the world hates gwb and wants him out of office? I'm one of them as you probably have guessed.

Yuo must still remember, that Hitler got into office democratically, and that he while governing actually held elections, where 98% of the population actually supported him.

The only reason you haven't turned fascist is because of the media. It's much harder to limit the amount of information the population would recieve, which is the basis for fascism. This is also the reason i think you won't turn completely fascist, and that you'll some day revert your opinions and look back upon them as being foolish. Which is also why i was happy at 9-11, because things like these usually work as a wake-up call, like in spain. But you were just to far in the process. (I wasn't happy because of the people killed, understand that.)

I can tell you have never studied German history. And comparing Hitler's rise to power to Bush's win is plain idiotic. Yea, the US is coming off of a war in which we lost, and were destroyed both economically and militarily. We also are coming off of a monarchial rule and are seaching for a place back in western society...
Now I know why I stay out of P&N, and spend most of my time lurking. Your statements are pure drivel.

I under no circumstances link Bush's "rise of power" to hitler's. Doing that would be fairly stupid i agree. I was merely telling people that even though the majority of a country vote for one person, it doesn't make them right. And yes, i did study german history, fairly intensly actually.

But gaining the populatons trust might be done one way, such as hitler did it, he used the current political and economical situation in germany to rally his support. Others in the future might do the same, just by winning supoort a different way, it'd still be fasicism.
 

Uppsala9496

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With the set of checks and balances in place, I don't see how anyone can state that Bush's win has the potential to allow for facism to take root.
 

Forsythe

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Well, Japan did attack you. Japan and Germany were allies. They were sinking your supplieships on their way to britain. Besides Germany was a major threat to england, and would undoubtedly have taken over england if it hadn't been for US military support. Britain and you weren't allies (The british and french went to war against germany because they attacked poland, which germany and france were allies with) but you had a close relationship. The fact is that Roosevelt waited to assist the british, and withheld the declaration of war for a long time, untill you actually got attacked, because he felt he needed a more direct reason. But the major reason was the fascist dictatorship Hitler had aquired through democratic power, and the fact he was using it to invade most of the western world.

Saddam was an ally of terrorists and terrorism. So it would generally be accepted he would be a target of an attack in our war on terrorism. If you can accept the fact that we were in Africa fighting the Germans before we attacked the Japanese. Then you should be able to accept the fact that invading Iraq is a battle in the war on terror.


So rosevelt actually had a reason for this war, and saw that germany actually was a threat. Because they showed no lust for ending the campaign. Besides, it is well known that Germany from day 1 of hitlers reign tried hard to gain wmd. That's why so many scientists left germany for usa, and probably (undoubtedly actually) why you had the. Bomb before the russians.

Germany already had stockpiles of mustard and nerve agents. But Hitler was a victim in WWI from a mustard gas attack and thus never wanted to ever use them on the battlefield. The reasoning for the scientists leaving for the US was because a lot of them were Jewish and would have ended up in a gas chamber. Hitler also declared a war on the education system in Germany.

If you are talking about Germanys nuclear programs. Most consider their ambitions were for power purposes. A power source to drive their submarines. Not a weapon like everybody thought.

He was no ally of terrorism, he was just a mad dictator who enjoyed his quiet life mostly vacationing. The only way he would ever want to use wmd's would be to defend his country, as using them would clearly have put his reign in danger.
 

nCred

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Did´nt you use to be pro-Bush, Tabb? I could swear I´ve seen right wing posts by you in P&N.
 

Forsythe

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Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
With the set of checks and balances in place, I don't see how anyone can state that Bush's win has the potential to allow for facism to take root.

I am simply afraid of his "if you're not with us you're against us" policy. And his raging against democrats. To me Bush has won most of his support, i don't know if he's aware of it or not, by using scare tactics, and referring to being a patriot. Therefore the patriot act was named that for people to see it as nescesary. I don't think he's actually aware of it, but what he is doing is isolating your country from most of the world. Creating many partisans, not only on the right side, but many on the left side aswell, as a response to what is happening in your country.

I am not saying this is a fact, i'm merely saying this because this is what the people over here are saying to me when i converse with them. (I'm european, i live in denmark, east of england, we actually have troops in iraq, i'm sure that boosted knowledge of the location of denmark in the american schools :p)
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: nCred
Did´nt you use to be pro-Bush, Tabb? I could swear I´ve seen right wing posts by you in P&N.

Yup, I am living proof of why the Hitler Youth was so sucessfull.
 

Uppsala9496

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Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
With the set of checks and balances in place, I don't see how anyone can state that Bush's win has the potential to allow for facism to take root.

I am simply afraid of his "if you're not with us you're against us" policy. And his raging against democrats. To me Bush has won most of his support, i don't know if he's aware of it or not, by using scare tactics, and referring to being a patriot. Therefore the patriot act was named that for people to see it as nescesary. I don't think he's actually aware of it, but what he is doing is isolating your country from most of the world. Creating many partisans, not only on the right side, but many on the left side aswell, as a response to what is happening in your country.

I am not saying this is a fact, i'm merely saying this because this is what the people over here are saying to me when i converse with them. (I'm european, i live in denmark, east of england, we actually have troops in iraq, i'm sure that boosted knowledge of the location of denmark in the american schools :p)

I'm from Sweden (north of Denmark). What's your point. Ever hear of Uppsala University? Just north of Stockholm....yep, that great American education of mine.....
See hyperlinked sig at bottom....
 

Forsythe

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Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
With the set of checks and balances in place, I don't see how anyone can state that Bush's win has the potential to allow for facism to take root.

I am simply afraid of his "if you're not with us you're against us" policy. And his raging against democrats. To me Bush has won most of his support, i don't know if he's aware of it or not, by using scare tactics, and referring to being a patriot. Therefore the patriot act was named that for people to see it as nescesary. I don't think he's actually aware of it, but what he is doing is isolating your country from most of the world. Creating many partisans, not only on the right side, but many on the left side aswell, as a response to what is happening in your country.

I am not saying this is a fact, i'm merely saying this because this is what the people over here are saying to me when i converse with them. (I'm european, i live in denmark, east of england, we actually have troops in iraq, i'm sure that boosted knowledge of the location of denmark in the american schools :p)

I'm from Sweden (north of Denmark). What's your point. Ever hear of Uppsala University? Just north of Stockholm....yep, that great American education of mine.....
See hyperlinked sig at bottom....

Heh, i'm as much danish as i am swedish, parents from both countries. And yes, i know where uppsala is, just didn't read your username, or rather, reflected over it.

What do you mean "What your point"?
 
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Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
With the set of checks and balances in place, I don't see how anyone can state that Bush's win has the potential to allow for facism to take root.

I am simply afraid of his "if you're not with us you're against us" policy. And his raging against democrats. To me Bush has won most of his support, i don't know if he's aware of it or not, by using scare tactics, and referring to being a patriot. Therefore the patriot act was named that for people to see it as nescesary. I don't think he's actually aware of it, but what he is doing is isolating your country from most of the world. Creating many partisans, not only on the right side, but many on the left side aswell, as a response to what is happening in your country.

I am not saying this is a fact, i'm merely saying this because this is what the people over here are saying to me when i converse with them. (I'm european, i live in denmark, east of england, we actually have troops in iraq, i'm sure that boosted knowledge of the location of denmark in the american schools :p)

I'm from Sweden (north of Denmark). What's your point. Ever hear of Uppsala University? Just north of Stockholm....yep, that great American education of mine.....
See hyperlinked sig at bottom....
Didn't you guys recently build a bridge between your two countries?

 

nCred

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
With the set of checks and balances in place, I don't see how anyone can state that Bush's win has the potential to allow for facism to take root.

I am simply afraid of his "if you're not with us you're against us" policy. And his raging against democrats. To me Bush has won most of his support, i don't know if he's aware of it or not, by using scare tactics, and referring to being a patriot. Therefore the patriot act was named that for people to see it as nescesary. I don't think he's actually aware of it, but what he is doing is isolating your country from most of the world. Creating many partisans, not only on the right side, but many on the left side aswell, as a response to what is happening in your country.

I am not saying this is a fact, i'm merely saying this because this is what the people over here are saying to me when i converse with them. (I'm european, i live in denmark, east of england, we actually have troops in iraq, i'm sure that boosted knowledge of the location of denmark in the american schools :p)

I'm from Sweden (north of Denmark). What's your point. Ever hear of Uppsala University? Just north of Stockholm....yep, that great American education of mine.....
See hyperlinked sig at bottom....
Didn't you guys recently build a bridge between your two countries?

Yeah, here it is.
 

Uppsala9496

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What I meant by "what's your point", is that you assumed I was some "uneducated" american who never heard of Denmark.
 

Uppsala9496

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Originally posted by: Tabb
Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
Originally posted by: Tabb
Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: Buz2b
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
:yawn:

This old chestnut again?

How about something Nazi releated with some real relevance?
On 8th November, 1923, the Bavarian government held a meeting of about 3,000 officials. While Gustav von Kahr, the leader of the Bavarian government was making a speech, Hitler and armed stormtroopers entering the building. Hitler jumped onto a table, fired two shots in the air and told the audience that the Munich Putsch was taking place and the National Revolution had began.

Leaving Hermann Goering and the SA [the real brown shirts!] to guard the 3,000 officials, Hitler took Gustav von Kahr, Otto von Lossow, the commander of the Bavarian Army and Hans von Seisser, the commandant of the Bavarian State Police into an adjoining room. Hitler told the men that he was to be the new leader of Germany and offered them posts in his new government. Aware that this would be an act of high treason, the three men were initially reluctant to agree to this offer. Hitler was furious and threatened to shoot them and then commit suicide: "I have three bullets for you, gentlemen, and one for me!" After this the three men agreed.
Now, when this sort of thing happens during an election, you can post such tripe from a Nazi and give it real consideration. Until then it's completely meaningless.
Yeah, but it did sorta happen. Are you denying it did?

Yes, I am denying it just as YOU seem to want to deny that the attacks took place on 9/11. How easily you forget. Bush didn't seek this war, the terrorists did. What an idiotic comparison to make. It's almost comical how the left will seek far and wide to find some sort of negative comparison to throw at the right. You are truely the party of failure. America has to fail for you to look good. That doesn't say much for the Dems but then you really can't anyway.
One last thing to really get under your thin skin, we're called the Right wing because it's just that.....RIGHT. :laugh:

Actually you are the right because of the way the different political parties were placed in the french administration before the french revolution, but i'm sure you knew that.

I believe the OP has a point. Because all the commercials have either concentrated on either Kerry being a flip-flopper (i can't see why this even matters...), or stating that Kerry can't take care of this country, and thereby implying that you will be attacked if he wins the precidency, fear is a result hereof.
Not only that, but there has been lots of signs of america growing towards a mild form of fascism:
The extreme amount of flags
The very "us or them" mentality you have. Like non-american deaths don't matter, how you mindlesly follow the president into war apparently searching for wmd, even though you've heard from people actually in the country that there were none. The mass of americans that actually believe that, as they hinted in the white house, Iraq had connections with 9-11. The blind following of the presidency iow. How much the left has been attacked for being "unpatriotic," Fox is a magnificent example here. The severe lack of trust you have of ANYTHING/ANYBODY not american! What, 80% of the world hates gwb and wants him out of office? I'm one of them as you probably have guessed.

Yuo must still remember, that Hitler got into office democratically, and that he while governing actually held elections, where 98% of the population actually supported him.

The only reason you haven't turned fascist is because of the media. It's much harder to limit the amount of information the population would recieve, which is the basis for fascism. This is also the reason i think you won't turn completely fascist, and that you'll some day revert your opinions and look back upon them as being foolish. Which is also why i was happy at 9-11, because things like these usually work as a wake-up call, like in spain. But you were just to far in the process. (I wasn't happy because of the people killed, understand that.)

I can tell you have never studied German history. And comparing Hitler's rise to power to Bush's win is plain idiotic. Yea, the US is coming off of a war in which we lost, and were destroyed both economically and militarily. We also are coming off of a monarchial rule and are seaching for a place back in western society...
Now I know why I stay out of P&N, and spend most of my time lurking. Your statements are pure drivel.

Again, like a sheep you insult the author of the article. You don't attack what he wrote you attack him, you say he hasn't studied German History but do nothing to prove him wrong.
Nothing to prove him wrong? I don't have the time nor the energy to type out what is easily found in history books. Read up on German history from 1845-1945, and you will clearly see how and why Hitler came into power. If you would like some references, please let me know, and when I get off work, I will send them to you.
And comparing Hitler's rise to power to Bush's win is plain idiotic. Yea, the US is coming off of a war in which we lost, and were destroyed both economically and militarily. We also are coming off of a monarchial rule and are seaching for a place back in western society...

Don't send them to me, post your references on this thread.

A good reference to read would be "A History of Modern Germany 1840-1945" by Hajo Holborn.
It's an older book, written in 1969. Excellent read however. Specifically, I would read the sections title "The beginings of the Weimar Republic, and the aftermath of the war", along with "The Weimar Republic 1926-33", and finally "The Third Empire".
The Weimar Republic section is excellent, and goes into great depth on the dissolution of the Reichstag in 1930.
In the Amreican system, something like this would never happen based on the checks and balances in place. Thus, your Hitler comparison is weak at best.
 

Nikamichi

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Originally posted by: Tabb
Naturally, the common people don't want war, but after all, it is the leader of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, or fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denouce the pacifists for a lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.

-Hermann Goering, Hitlers Reich-Marshell

Holy Shiznickers! You can quote!! :shocked:

Hey wait a sec, so can I!1!111!

:thumbsup::thumbsup:
 

Uppsala9496

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Not to beat a dead horse, but Hitler never had 98% of the votes. At the time of the 1933 election Germany was basically a police state, and could hardly be called a free election. Even then the Nazi's only received 43.9% of the vote.
 

Forsythe

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Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
Not to beat a dead horse, but Hitler never had 98% of the votes. At the time of the 1933 election Germany was basically a police state, and could hardly be called a free election. Even then the Nazi's only received 43.9% of the vote.

I never assumed you were uneducated, i'm sorry for the misunderstanding.

He had a vote in '38 where he was supported by 98% of the voters.And as far as i recall the % of voters was like 60-70. I can't find any sources though, i read this when i was in high school, in a book naturally.

I jsut assumed you were american, and no (allmost) americans know where denmark lies, educated or not.
 

Forsythe

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Originally posted by: Nikamichi
Originally posted by: Tabb
Naturally, the common people don't want war, but after all, it is the leader of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, or fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denouce the pacifists for a lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.

-Hermann Goering, Hitlers Reich-Marshell

Holy Shiznickers! You can quote!! :shocked:

Hey wait a sec, so can I!1!111!

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: for such a relevant and knowledgeable post!
 

Forsythe

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Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
Not to beat a dead horse, but Hitler never had 98% of the votes. At the time of the 1933 election Germany was basically a police state, and could hardly be called a free election. Even then the Nazi's only received 43.9% of the vote.

I am simply trying to show they were brainwashed, in good ol' germany.
 

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Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
Not to beat a dead horse, but Hitler never had 98% of the votes. At the time of the 1933 election Germany was basically a police state, and could hardly be called a free election. Even then the Nazi's only received 43.9% of the vote.

I never assumed you were uneducated, i'm sorry for the misunderstanding.

He had a vote in '38 where he was supported by 98% of the voters.And as far as i recall the % of voters was like 60-70. I can't find any sources though, i read this when i was in high school, in a book naturally.

I jsut assumed you were american, and no (allmost) americans know where denmark lies, educated or not.


Besides popular belief...Hitler was never democratically elected to power by the people of Germany.

His party was....and this is how Hitler was able to declare himself as chancellor
 

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: Tabb
Are all of the Bush supporters out of their nazi rethoric?
:snicker:

Just trying to get out a reply... you can't keep the old chesnut in the ground...
 

Forsythe

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Originally posted by: Mockery
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: Uppsala9496
Not to beat a dead horse, but Hitler never had 98% of the votes. At the time of the 1933 election Germany was basically a police state, and could hardly be called a free election. Even then the Nazi's only received 43.9% of the vote.

I never assumed you were uneducated, i'm sorry for the misunderstanding.

He had a vote in '38 where he was supported by 98% of the voters.And as far as i recall the % of voters was like 60-70. I can't find any sources though, i read this when i was in high school, in a book naturally.

I jsut assumed you were american, and no (allmost) americans know where denmark lies, educated or not.


Besides popular belief...Hitler was never democratically elected to power by the people of Germany.

His party was....and this is how Hitler was able to declare himself as chancellor

I'll be as cocky as saying he was the party...
 

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Originally posted by: Forsythe

I'll be as cocky as saying he was the party...

Well nothing can stop you from saying it....but it's about as valid as saying that the Republican controlled Congress of the late nineties was due to George W. Bush.

Point being...Hitler was for the most part a nobody at that time....Or as Mussolini quoted him, ?ragamuffin', at the time that his political party came to power.

While he was able to rise through the political ranks quickly?Hitler was not a primary reason his party gained such mass appeal amongst the German people.