A lot of old men here in Thailand.

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rh71

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This is not new. Dirt poor women in Asia will latch on anyone, especially old foreign men, with money so they will able to move to US or EU or anywhere else.

I felt bad for those guys, being used solely for their money. When the money run out, no more girls/women.

In Asia, those old men are called "tay ba lo", "gaijin", "gweilo" and other slang/derogatory words.

"gweilo" just means white guy (translates to ghost person) and they'd call any white guy that, not just these sugar daddys. I'm pretty sure "gaijin" is the same for Japan (refer to Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift as they called him that).

Anyway, if you have money, may as well be happy before you die.
 
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Eug

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"gweilo" just means white guy (translates to ghost person) and they'd call any white guy that, not just these sugar daddys.
No, it's not just "white guy", as you say yourself. It is also an insult. Taken at face value, it's very negative connotation. Nobody should be using that term to describe a person s/he respects.

Some Chinese consider it not derogatory, but it's just because it's been in use so long it's ingrained, and/or they don't know any better. It's like a Caucasian person saying "Chinaman" isn't derogatory.

But no, gwai lo doesn't just refer to white sugar daddys.

I'm pretty sure "gaijin" is the same for Japan (refer to Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift as they called him that).
Gaijin doesn't have to be pejorative (although it can be), as it just means foreigner. Gaijin doesn't necessarily have to refer to Caucasians either.
 

Svnla

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No, it's not just "white guy", as you say yourself. It is also an insult. Taken at face value, it's very negative connotation. Nobody should be using that term to describe a person s/he respects.

Some Chinese consider it not derogatory, but it's just because it's been in use so long it's ingrained, and/or they don't know any better. It's like a Caucasian person saying "Chinaman" isn't derogatory.

But no, gwai lo doesn't just refer to white sugar daddys.


Gaijin doesn't have to be pejorative (although it can be), as it just means foreigner. Gaijin doesn't necessarily have to refer to Caucasians either.

Yup. It depends on the context and who used it. From my own experience, those words were used as put down on those poor old guys being used by loose and cheap women.

For example, in Vietnam people use "tay ba lo" <spelling?> ...loosely translated as "poor foreigners/westerners with backpack and nothing else".

That's why I laugh whenever I hear guys say it is so easy to get women in Asia. Cheap/easy/loose and poor women who desperately to get out of poverty? Sure. Upper class and rich? Good luck with that.
 
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nehalem256

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Yup. It depends on the context and who used it. From my own experience, those words were used as put down on those poor guys. That's why I laugh whenever I hear guys say it is so easy to get women in Asia. Cheap/easy/loose and poor women who desperately to get out of poverty? Sure. Upper class and rich? Good luck with that.

So basically unless the guy is a gold digger its smooth sailing :awe:
 

Imp

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No, it's not just "white guy", as you say yourself. It is also an insult. Taken at face value, it's very negative connotation. Nobody should be using that term to describe a person s/he respects.

Some Chinese consider it not derogatory, but it's just because it's been in use so long it's ingrained, and/or they don't know any better. It's like a Caucasian person saying "Chinaman" isn't derogatory.

It's derogatory and I'm slightly taken aback when I hear it usually.

But where does this "white devil" thing come from. I see some people translate "gweilo" into "white devil". Huh? Literal translation is just "gwei" for ghost and "lo" for bummy sort of man.
 

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So a few of these older men must know that their girlfriend is seeing other old guys, right? Do you hear any stories about one of the old guys asking his lady friend if he can watch her with another one of the old guys?
 

Svnla

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So basically unless the guy is a gold digger its smooth sailing :awe:

Well, in Asia, they (not all of course) have the strange notion of "pure blood" and if you are "high class", aristocrat, or stinking rich, you should not mix with others that are not the same. That's why I said good luck to hook up with stinking rich and high class women in Asia in my previous post.

Also, talk about brand name obsession. But that is how I make my money, get brand name goods from US to Asia (developing countries) for profit. :)


Strange but true.
 
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JulesMaximus

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I've seen some strange stuff while here in Thailand. I see a lot of old guys with super young girls. I'm talking a 30-40 year difference. I saw a 23 year old Thai girl with what appeared to be a 73 year old man. Now, these guys aren't super wealthy, but most do get a nice pension.

It's a regular occurrence here.

Those aren't girls.
 

Eug

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It's derogatory and I'm slightly taken aback when I hear it usually.

But where does this "white devil" thing come from. I see some people translate "gweilo" into "white devil". Huh? Literal translation is just "gwei" for ghost and "lo" for bummy sort of man.
Well, I believe historically it largely referred to pale-skinned European males. So "white devil" sort of makes sense if you are translating by intent, although I've heard "foreign devil" used as the translation more often.
 

nehalem256

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Well, in Asia, they (not all of course) have the strange notion of "pure blood" and if you are "high class", aristocrat, or stinking rich, you should not mix with others that are not the same. That's why I said good luck to hook up with stinking rich and high class women in Asia in my previous post.

And its easy to hook up with stinking rich American women?:D
 

Hugo Drax

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http://www.vice.com/read/i-went-to-a-blowjob-bar-in-bangkok-thailand
 

Hugo Drax

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This is not new. Dirt poor women in Asia will latch on anyone, especially old foreign men, with money so they will able to move to US or EU or anywhere else.

I felt bad for those guys, being used solely for their money. When the money run out, no more girls/women.

In Asia, those old men are called "tay ba lo", "gaijin", "gweilo" and other slang/derogatory words.

They are not being used, just as someone is not being used when they pay money to visit a psychologist.

They pay a fixed amount for a fixed amount of sexual activity. They know what they are getting. Its no different than someone paying cash for services rendered.
 

Hugo Drax

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I bet Viagra sales would plummet if Dr. Bjs operated clinics in the US providing "Medicinal Blow Jobs"
 

Svnla

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They are not being used, just as someone is not being used when they pay money to visit a psychologist.

They pay a fixed amount for a fixed amount of sexual activity. They know what they are getting. Its no different than someone paying cash for services rendered.

You would think so? Sadly, not all of them think or know that they are getting themselves to. I could go on but don't want to hurt people feeling.


And its easy to hook up with stinking rich American women?:D

Well, in US, we do not have such desperate poor people that just want to move to another country for a much better life (comparing to what they currently have).
 
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DigDog

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i dont blame the girls. poverty sucks.
i dont blame the old guys either. im pretty sure young thai poonani > old brit poonani.
 

smackababy

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You would think so? Sadly, not all of them think or know that they are getting themselves to. I could go on but don't want to hurt people feeling.




Well, in US, we do not have such desperate poor people that just want to move to another country for a much better life (comparing to what they currently have).

Those too naive to realize the nature of their relationship don't get much sympathy from me.
 

ponyo

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Bangkok is sort of like Las Vegas. Disneyland for adults. Both places are awesome and sad at the same time.