Originally posted by: astrocase
Ever seen Frontline's undercover report? Not a nice place at all.
Do you know how China identifies the North Korean's that cross the border? It's because they're all very small and malnourished. They stick out like sore thumbs. They send them back.
Originally posted by: envy me
I wonder how many of you have actually visited and what you base your opinions on.
how can you judge another country and its culture just because of what some old fart on 60 minutes thinks.
Originally posted by: envy me
I wonder how many of you have actually visited and what you base your opinions on.
how can you judge another country and its culture just because of what some old fart on 60 minutes thinks.
Originally posted by: raildogg
One of the few places today where concentration camps are the norm.
Originally posted by: DaY
What are your views on South Korea as opposed to North?
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: envy me
I wonder how many of you have actually visited and what you base your opinions on.
how can you judge another country and its culture just because of what some old fart on 60 minutes thinks.
that is so pathetic that I don't even know where to begin.
millions of North Koreans have died in the past few decades. Read what some international aid workers who went there say. This was a planned photo shoot you saw. He didn't go out and explore. Or wasn't allowed to.
North Korea is quite possibly among the worst places to live for the average person. It is a slave state if there ever was one.
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: envy me
I wonder how many of you have actually visited and what you base your opinions on.
how can you judge another country and its culture just because of what some old fart on 60 minutes thinks.
that is so pathetic that I don't even know where to begin.
millions of North Koreans have died in the past few decades. Read what some international aid workers who went there say. This was a planned photo shoot you saw. He didn't go out and explore. Or wasn't allowed to.
North Korea is quite possibly among the worst places to live for the average person. It is a slave state if there ever was one.
So I guess people visiting america get the chance to see all of the homeless ghettos there. All the gang-bangers, and illegal immigrants, all the poverty here.
Just because there might not be as many americans living in terrible conditions as north koreans doesn't mean it can be ignored. Is it that much different? Americans are just living under the assumption that they are free and democracy reigns supreme but that is not the case. You aren't FREE as FREE is defined, you must pay royalties (taxes), you do not OWN land (government seizures of land does happen in america), hell if you wanted to go out and live in the forest and grow your own food and make your own shelter you couldn't. Everything is just nicely disguised here.
Don't be so ignorant as to base opinions on what other people say. Go visit and then tell us what you think or just STFU.
So many people have opinions and have absoloutely no idea what is going on.
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: envy me
I wonder how many of you have actually visited and what you base your opinions on.
how can you judge another country and its culture just because of what some old fart on 60 minutes thinks.
that is so pathetic that I don't even know where to begin.
millions of North Koreans have died in the past few decades. Read what some international aid workers who went there say. This was a planned photo shoot you saw. He didn't go out and explore. Or wasn't allowed to.
North Korea is quite possibly among the worst places to live for the average person. It is a slave state if there ever was one.
So I guess people visiting america get the chance to see all of the homeless ghettos there. All the gang-bangers, and illegal immigrants, all the poverty here.
Just because there might not be as many americans living in terrible conditions as north koreans doesn't mean it can be ignored. Is it that much different? Americans are just living under the assumption that they are free and democracy reigns supreme but that is not the case. You aren't FREE as FREE is defined, you must pay royalties (taxes), you do not OWN land (government seizures of land does happen in america), hell if you wanted to go out and live in the forest and grow your own food and make your own shelter you couldn't. Everything is just nicely disguised here.
Don't be so ignorant as to base opinions on what other people say. Go visit and then tell us what you think or just STFU.
So many people have opinions and have absoloutely no idea what is going on.
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: envy me
I wonder how many of you have actually visited and what you base your opinions on.
how can you judge another country and its culture just because of what some old fart on 60 minutes thinks.
that is so pathetic that I don't even know where to begin.
millions of North Koreans have died in the past few decades. Read what some international aid workers who went there say. This was a planned photo shoot you saw. He didn't go out and explore. Or wasn't allowed to.
North Korea is quite possibly among the worst places to live for the average person. It is a slave state if there ever was one.
So I guess people visiting america get the chance to see all of the homeless ghettos there. All the gang-bangers, and illegal immigrants, all the poverty here.
Just because there might not be as many americans living in terrible conditions as north koreans doesn't mean it can be ignored. Is it that much different? Americans are just living under the assumption that they are free and democracy reigns supreme but that is not the case. You aren't FREE as FREE is defined, you must pay royalties (taxes), you do not OWN land (government seizures of land does happen in america), hell if you wanted to go out and live in the forest and grow your own food and make your own shelter you couldn't. Everything is just nicely disguised here.
Don't be so ignorant as to base opinions on what other people say. Go visit and then tell us what you think or just STFU.
So many people have opinions and have absoloutely no idea what is going on.
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: envy me
I wonder how many of you have actually visited and what you base your opinions on.
how can you judge another country and its culture just because of what some old fart on 60 minutes thinks.
that is so pathetic that I don't even know where to begin.
millions of North Koreans have died in the past few decades. Read what some international aid workers who went there say. This was a planned photo shoot you saw. He didn't go out and explore. Or wasn't allowed to.
North Korea is quite possibly among the worst places to live for the average person. It is a slave state if there ever was one.
So I guess people visiting america get the chance to see all of the homeless ghettos there. All the gang-bangers, and illegal immigrants, all the poverty here.
Just because there might not be as many americans living in terrible conditions as north koreans doesn't mean it can be ignored. Is it that much different? Americans are just living under the assumption that they are free and democracy reigns supreme but that is not the case. You aren't FREE as FREE is defined, you must pay royalties (taxes), you do not OWN land (government seizures of land does happen in america), hell if you wanted to go out and live in the forest and grow your own food and make your own shelter you couldn't. Everything is just nicely disguised here.
Don't be so ignorant as to base opinions on what other people say. Go visit and then tell us what you think or just STFU.
So many people have opinions and have absoloutely no idea what is going on.
You are carrying your BS from P&N to here now?
America does not have concentration camps yet. North Korea has had them for who knows how many years. That is a fact. There are actual eyewitnesses, both North Korean and foreign. There are documents. If you still don't believe that, then what killed the millions of North Koreans over these years? Mal-nutrition? But they have mal-nutrition in Africa, yet millions don't die there.
Those slaves working for the top ranking officials are doing so under brute force.
Many countries have people living in poverty. We are not discussing poverty. We are discussing state sponsored enslavement. The only person ignorant is you who is so short sighted to not see broadly. Your narrow thinking is limiting your viewpoint.
By the way, you don't have to visit a country to tell if its a tyranny or not. You didn't have to go to Russia in the 1940s to find out that it was run by a despotic regime.
We don't go out in the forest to make food because we don't have to. It is a plus. Yes, people need to have more skills, but those skills are not required here since we are a generally open society in which people can pick and choose what they wish to do. Unlike North Korea.
Yes, people have opinions, but yours is the only one here currently that has no good foundation.
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: envy me
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: envy me
I wonder how many of you have actually visited and what you base your opinions on.
how can you judge another country and its culture just because of what some old fart on 60 minutes thinks.
that is so pathetic that I don't even know where to begin.
millions of North Koreans have died in the past few decades. Read what some international aid workers who went there say. This was a planned photo shoot you saw. He didn't go out and explore. Or wasn't allowed to.
North Korea is quite possibly among the worst places to live for the average person. It is a slave state if there ever was one.
So I guess people visiting america get the chance to see all of the homeless ghettos there. All the gang-bangers, and illegal immigrants, all the poverty here.
Just because there might not be as many americans living in terrible conditions as north koreans doesn't mean it can be ignored. Is it that much different? Americans are just living under the assumption that they are free and democracy reigns supreme but that is not the case. You aren't FREE as FREE is defined, you must pay royalties (taxes), you do not OWN land (government seizures of land does happen in america), hell if you wanted to go out and live in the forest and grow your own food and make your own shelter you couldn't. Everything is just nicely disguised here.
Don't be so ignorant as to base opinions on what other people say. Go visit and then tell us what you think or just STFU.
So many people have opinions and have absoloutely no idea what is going on.
you are delusional. in america you can buy all sorts of books, movies, documentaries, look up studies and such on our poor and ghetto areas. you can explore those ghettos all you want. no ones stopping you, its trash in the light of day for all to see, its not hidden. the nature of repressive regiems like nk are quite different. if you try to get access to outside information or to spread the truth about the situation without official sanction you will be taken away by the secret police. kim jong il is a god there, speak against him and you will be taken away. don't even bother comparing the two as if they are in the slightest big similar. its sad you are so bent on sh*tting on america that you distort reality this far.