A little tidbit re: Clinton

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BarneyFife

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Originally posted by: JoeBaD
I knew I could stir up a little liberal circle jerk with this post.

I can't take credit though, got it off another site.
You're like the victim that comes back for more and more abuse.
 

HombrePequeno

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Originally posted by: conehead433
Presidents Felons? Say It Ain't So

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/10/18/cocaine/

"Book: Bush was arrested for cocaine in 1972
Texas author J.H. Hatfield claims the Republican front-runner did community service at a Houston center."


- - - - - - - - - - - -
By Salon Staff

"Hatfield quotes "a high-ranking advisor to Bush" who confirmed that Bush was arrested for cocaine possession in Houston in 1972, and had the record expunged by a judge who was "a fellow Republican and elected official" who helped Bush get off "with a little community service at a minority youth center instead of having to pick cotton on a Texas prison farm."

Hatfield quotes a former Yale classmate who told him: "George W. was arrested for possession of cocaine in 1972, but due to his father's connections, the entire record was expunged by a state judge whom the older Bush helped get elected. It was one of those 'behind closed doors in the judges' chambers' kind of thing between the old man and one of his Texas cronies who owed him a favor ... There's only a handful of us that know the truth."


Just goes to prove if you're connected well enough you can get out of just about anything.
You gotta love people spreading BS. From salon.com too.
 

conehead433

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"You gotta love people spreading BS. From salon.com too."

Sorry to disappoint you with the truth. What else do you want to hear about. Bush was arrested at Yale for theft and vandalism. Then there's also his arrest for DUI that he denied happened even after paying the fine. He violated SEC rules on four different occaisions by selling stock in a company after he had signed a sworn affadavit to refrain from doing so for six months. I just don't understand why so many people want to defend this liar. These are just a few of the publicly available accounts of what this president had done years before taking office. Old habits are hard to break though, so now he lies to Congress and the American people to justify attacking another country. He should resign and get pardoned by Cheney to avoid impeachment. I won't even talk about where they should all go.
 

HombrePequeno

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Originally posted by: conehead433
"You gotta love people spreading BS. From salon.com too."

Sorry to disappoint you with the truth. What else do you want to hear about. Bush was arrested at Yale for theft and vandalism. Then there's also his arrest for DUI that he denied happened even after paying the fine. He violated SEC rules on four different occaisions by selling stock in a company after he had signed a sworn affadavit to refrain from doing so for six months. I just don't understand why so many people want to defend this liar. These are just a few of the publicly available accounts of what this president had done years before taking office. Old habits are hard to break though, so now he lies to Congress and the American people to justify attacking another country. He should resign and get pardoned by Cheney to avoid impeachment. I won't even talk about where they should all go.
Fine, then post an article about one of those. Don't go around posting articles that are proven false. That's the whole reason JoeBad is getting flamed.
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: SViscusi
Originally posted by: JoeBaD
Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Given Selective Service Number 3 26 46 228.

* Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968.

* Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969.

* Bill Clinton dishonors order to report and is not inducted into the military.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07,1969 under authority of Col.E.Holmes. Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment.

* Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40

(2)(a) 'registrant who has failed to report...remain liable for induction'. * Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction, is INELIGIBLE!

* Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.

* Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), while a fugitive from justice.

* Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977 from Carter (general amnesty)

* Bill Clinton FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President.
Before you posted something you got thru email, did you ever think to see if it were true?
LOL!

 

conehead433

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"Don't go around posting articles that are proven false"

I haven't posted anything that was proven false. Google for yourself about anything I stated and find out for yourself.
 

sMiLeYz

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Originally posted by: SViscusi
Originally posted by: JoeBaD
Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Given Selective Service Number 3 26 46 228.

* Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968.

* Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969.

* Bill Clinton dishonors order to report and is not inducted into the military.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07,1969 under authority of Col.E.Holmes. Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment.

* Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40

(2)(a) 'registrant who has failed to report...remain liable for induction'. * Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction, is INELIGIBLE!

* Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.

* Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), while a fugitive from justice.

* Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977 from Carter (general amnesty)

* Bill Clinton FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President.
Before you posted something you got thru email, did you ever think to see if it were true?
LMAO!!! :D :D :D :D
 

shiner

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Funny that the only thing in the original post that is not true is the bit about Clinton being a felon but all th lefties ignore the rest.

Read the whole article on Snopes....very telling. Shows he had a pattern of lying and spinning 1/2 truths very early in his life.

Here's a good paragraph...

That Bill Clinton went to great lengths to avoid the Vietnam-era draft, that he used political connections to obtain special favors, and that he made promises and commitments which he later failed to honor, are all beyond dispute. However, the timeline quoted above jumps the tracks when it labels Clinton a "felon," because none of his actions, no matter how unethical or morally reprehensible, were illegal. When Clinton agreed in July of 1969 to enter the advanced ROTC program at the University of Arkansas, his draft board rescinded his induction notice and reclassified him with a reservist's deferment. That he later changed his mind in October 1969 and opted to forego the ROTC program and be reclassified 1-A did not constitute a "failure to report" or make him "AWOL," because he was not due to begin ROTC training until the summer of 1970, and he had the ROTC director's permission to return to England in the meanwhile. At the time of his 1-A re-classification in October 1969 the previous induction notice was no longer in effect, and he was not subsequently re-drafted.

Then of course we have the infamous "loathing" of the military letter
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: Sternfan
Originally posted by: SViscusi
Originally posted by: JoeBaD
Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Given Selective Service Number 3 26 46 228.

* Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968.

* Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969.

* Bill Clinton dishonors order to report and is not inducted into the military.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07,1969 under authority of Col.E.Holmes. Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment.

* Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40

(2)(a) 'registrant who has failed to report...remain liable for induction'. * Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction, is INELIGIBLE!

* Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.

* Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), while a fugitive from justice.

* Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977 from Carter (general amnesty)

* Bill Clinton FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President.
Before you posted something you got thru email, did you ever think to see if it were true?

Not sure why the left is happy about this, both articles make him look real bad and unfit to be president. The lie is just a bit worse then the truth.
Look, Clinton is not president anymore. The only reason I can see why he is being brought up is to divert attention away from Bush's messes.
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
Originally posted by: Sternfan
Originally posted by: SViscusi
Originally posted by: JoeBaD
Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Given Selective Service Number 3 26 46 228.

* Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968.

* Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969.

* Bill Clinton dishonors order to report and is not inducted into the military.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07,1969 under authority of Col.E.Holmes. Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment.

* Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40

(2)(a) 'registrant who has failed to report...remain liable for induction'. * Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction, is INELIGIBLE!

* Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.

* Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), while a fugitive from justice.

* Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977 from Carter (general amnesty)

* Bill Clinton FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President.
Before you posted something you got thru email, did you ever think to see if it were true?

Not sure why the left is happy about this, both articles make him look real bad and unfit to be president. The lie is just a bit worse then the truth.
Look, Clinton is not president anymore. The only reason I can see why he is being brought up is to divert attention away from Bush's messes.
Actually it's to point out the hypocrisy of the left.

 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
Originally posted by: Sternfan
Originally posted by: SViscusi
Originally posted by: JoeBaD
Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Given Selective Service Number 3 26 46 228.

* Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968.

* Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969.

* Bill Clinton dishonors order to report and is not inducted into the military.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07,1969 under authority of Col.E.Holmes. Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment.

* Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40

(2)(a) 'registrant who has failed to report...remain liable for induction'. * Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction, is INELIGIBLE!

* Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.

* Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), while a fugitive from justice.

* Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977 from Carter (general amnesty)

* Bill Clinton FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President.
Before you posted something you got thru email, did you ever think to see if it were true?

Not sure why the left is happy about this, both articles make him look real bad and unfit to be president. The lie is just a bit worse then the truth.
Look, Clinton is not president anymore. The only reason I can see why he is being brought up is to divert attention away from Bush's messes.
Actually it's to point out the hypocrisy of the left.
Usually points out the hypocrisy of the Right.
 

CADsortaGUY

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www.ShawCAD.com
Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
Originally posted by: Sternfan
Originally posted by: SViscusi
Originally posted by: JoeBaD
Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Given Selective Service Number 3 26 46 228.

* Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968.

* Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969.

* Bill Clinton dishonors order to report and is not inducted into the military.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07,1969 under authority of Col.E.Holmes. Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment.

* Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40

(2)(a) 'registrant who has failed to report...remain liable for induction'. * Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction, is INELIGIBLE!

* Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.

* Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), while a fugitive from justice.

* Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977 from Carter (general amnesty)

* Bill Clinton FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President.
Before you posted something you got thru email, did you ever think to see if it were true?

Not sure why the left is happy about this, both articles make him look real bad and unfit to be president. The lie is just a bit worse then the truth.
Look, Clinton is not president anymore. The only reason I can see why he is being brought up is to divert attention away from Bush's messes.
Seems like atleast one of the Democratic "contenders" wants to keep his name active in the news like Edwards
"I am tired of Democrats walking away from President Bill Clinton, who did an extraordinary job of lifting up and reaching out to all of the American people."
Yep - guess it is us "evil" people on the right with a woody for Bill


Shinerburke is correct;)

CkG
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
Originally posted by: Sternfan
Originally posted by: SViscusi
Originally posted by: JoeBaD
Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Given Selective Service Number 3 26 46 228.

* Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968.

* Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969.

* Bill Clinton dishonors order to report and is not inducted into the military.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07,1969 under authority of Col.E.Holmes. Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment.

* Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40

(2)(a) 'registrant who has failed to report...remain liable for induction'. * Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction, is INELIGIBLE!

* Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.

* Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), while a fugitive from justice.

* Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977 from Carter (general amnesty)

* Bill Clinton FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President.
Before you posted something you got thru email, did you ever think to see if it were true?

Not sure why the left is happy about this, both articles make him look real bad and unfit to be president. The lie is just a bit worse then the truth.
Look, Clinton is not president anymore. The only reason I can see why he is being brought up is to divert attention away from Bush's messes.
Seems like atleast one of the Democratic "contenders" wants to keep his name active in the news like Edwards
"I am tired of Democrats walking away from President Bill Clinton, who did an extraordinary job of lifting up and reaching out to all of the American people."
Yep - guess it is us "evil" people on the right with a woody for Bill


Shinerburke is correct;)

CkG
Making Clinton the issue might work with Bush's core supporters but it is not going to absolve Bush from being held responsible for the economy and the war. In the 2004 election, the voter is not going to vote against Clinton's draft record or the fact he lied about an affair.

 

shiner

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Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
Originally posted by: Sternfan
Originally posted by: SViscusi
Originally posted by: JoeBaD
Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Given Selective Service Number 3 26 46 228.

* Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968.

* Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969.

* Bill Clinton dishonors order to report and is not inducted into the military.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07,1969 under authority of Col.E.Holmes. Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment.

* Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40

(2)(a) 'registrant who has failed to report...remain liable for induction'. * Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction, is INELIGIBLE!

* Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.

* Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), while a fugitive from justice.

* Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977 from Carter (general amnesty)

* Bill Clinton FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President.
Before you posted something you got thru email, did you ever think to see if it were true?

Not sure why the left is happy about this, both articles make him look real bad and unfit to be president. The lie is just a bit worse then the truth.
Look, Clinton is not president anymore. The only reason I can see why he is being brought up is to divert attention away from Bush's messes.
Seems like atleast one of the Democratic "contenders" wants to keep his name active in the news like Edwards
"I am tired of Democrats walking away from President Bill Clinton, who did an extraordinary job of lifting up and reaching out to all of the American people."
Yep - guess it is us "evil" people on the right with a woody for Bill


Shinerburke is correct;)

CkG
Making Clinton the issue might work with Bush's core supporters but it is not going to absolve Bush from being held responsible for the economy and the war. In the 2004 election, the voter is not going to vote against Clinton's draft record or the fact he lied about an affair.
Tell me again how Bush, or any President, has anything to do with the economy. As for the war....Bush gets all the credit and the American people realize it was a job that needed to be done and was well done.
 

HombrePequeno

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Originally posted by: conehead433
"Don't go around posting articles that are proven false"

I haven't posted anything that was proven false. Google for yourself about anything I stated and find out for yourself.
Well you quoted an article from salon.com saying Bush was arrested for cocaine use which has no evidence. I guess if you want to believe a science fiction writer who is apparently a convicted felon (he hired a hitman to kill his employer cuz his employer found out Hatfield had been embezzling a bit of cash) then go ahead.
 

sMiLeYz

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Since you conservatives are so obsessed with Clinton, I thought I would recommend a book that analyze the complete presidency of Bill Clinton. It's very well researched, and comes from first hand experience of renowned journalist Joe Klein who wrote the satire of Clinton, "Primary Colors".

The Natural: The Misunderstood presidency of Clinton

Very good book, very fair and balanced in the analysis of his presidency. Cheers. :beer:

 

JoeBaD

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Ya know, the thing is, I am not a right wing nut. I believe in those things that I think will be best for my children and my possible retirement in 10 years or so.

I lean toward the republicans but I realize that they are many times jerks. Oh-but so are the democrates!

BUT - So, so many of you on this board are so friggin' naive and/or ignorant that you take the crap that you learned in high school or college and think that this is the whole truth. You will wake up some day.

Political parties take extremes because they can get good money that way. What makes you think that your snot nose little opinions make a damn bit of difference in this wonderful country or the rest of the world. The day you sit down at a $1,000 a plate dinner, your opinion becomes to matter. Otherwise you're blowing smoke. Sorry to pop the balloon.

But to those of you who discredit this country, tell me - who would you rather be dominant?

North Korea, France, Poland, China, Australia (my personal choice besides the UK if not the US - maybe an English speaking preferrence but I think more just a damn good people preference), Brazil, whatever.

Anyway, the point is the US (and its people) are not trying to build an empire. We, and I think Bush (and Clinton between BJs :)) want us to prosper and lead the rest of the world to prosperity (sp). - And, you flaming idiots on this board who don't think this country is not the finest dominent (again (sp) tired and drunk) power that has ever been in such position in the history of the world should revisit your text books.

yes, I didn't like Clinton. I feel better about Bush. History will tell-maybe I'm wrong. But Fvck you people if you don't think this is the best country and government that man has yet devised.

That's my Amen - gotta get to bed. I work
 

Siddhartha

Lifer
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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
Originally posted by: Sternfan
Originally posted by: SViscusi
Originally posted by: JoeBaD
Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Given Selective Service Number 3 26 46 228.

* Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968.

* Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969.

* Bill Clinton dishonors order to report and is not inducted into the military.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07,1969 under authority of Col.E.Holmes. Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment.

* Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.

* Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40

(2)(a) 'registrant who has failed to report...remain liable for induction'. * Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction, is INELIGIBLE!

* Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.

* Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), while a fugitive from justice.

* Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977 from Carter (general amnesty)

* Bill Clinton FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President.
Before you posted something you got thru email, did you ever think to see if it were true?

Not sure why the left is happy about this, both articles make him look real bad and unfit to be president. The lie is just a bit worse then the truth.
Look, Clinton is not president anymore. The only reason I can see why he is being brought up is to divert attention away from Bush's messes.
Seems like atleast one of the Democratic "contenders" wants to keep his name active in the news like Edwards
"I am tired of Democrats walking away from President Bill Clinton, who did an extraordinary job of lifting up and reaching out to all of the American people."
Yep - guess it is us "evil" people on the right with a woody for Bill


Shinerburke is correct;)

CkG
Making Clinton the issue might work with Bush's core supporters but it is not going to absolve Bush from being held responsible for the economy and the war. In the 2004 election, the voter is not going to vote against Clinton's draft record or the fact he lied about an affair.
Tell me again how Bush, or any President, has anything to do with the economy. As for the war....Bush gets all the credit and the American people realize it was a job that needed to be done and was well done.
The sitting president is held responsible for the state of the nation. Ask George Bush Sr.

GWB justified the Iraq invasion by saying that Iraq represented a threat, via WMD and because it supported terrorism, to the US. So far it looks like he stretched the truth concerning how dangerous Iraq was.

In the next election, is the voter going vote on the economy and the G.I.s being killed daily in Iraq or Clinton's draft record and the fact he lied about an affair?
 
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In the next election, is the voter going vote on the economy and the G.I.s being killed daily in Iraq or Clinton's draft record and the fact he lied about an affair?
Sadly, as some have indicated with their postings here, it will be that latter for them.
 

HombrePequeno

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Originally posted by: JoeBaD
Ya know, the thing is, I am not a right wing nut. I believe in those things that I think will be best for my children and my possible retirement in 10 years or so.

I lean toward the republicans but I realize that they are many times jerks. Oh-but so are the democrates!

BUT - So, so many of you on this board are so friggin' naive and/or ignorant that you take the crap that you learned in high school or college and think that this is the whole truth. You will wake up some day.

Political parties take extremes because they can get good money that way. What makes you think that your snot nose little opinions make a damn bit of difference in this wonderful country or the rest of the world. The day you sit down at a $1,000 a plate dinner, your opinion becomes to matter. Otherwise you're blowing smoke. Sorry to pop the balloon.

But to those of you who discredit this country, tell me - who would you rather be dominant?

North Korea, France, Poland, China, Australia (my personal choice besides the UK if not the US - maybe an English speaking preferrence but I think more just a damn good people preference), Brazil, whatever.

Anyway, the point is the US (and its people) are not trying to build an empire. We, and I think Bush (and Clinton between BJs :)) want us to prosper and lead the rest of the world to prosperity (sp). - And, you flaming idiots on this board who don't think this country is not the finest dominent (again (sp) tired and drunk) power that has ever been in such position in the history of the world should revisit your text books.

yes, I didn't like Clinton. I feel better about Bush. History will tell-maybe I'm wrong. But Fvck you people if you don't think this is the best country and government that man has yet devised.

That's my Amen - gotta get to bed. I work
As opposed to reading something on the internet and assuming it's the truth?

And what does the rest of your post have to do with the topic?
 

phantom309

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Originally posted by: JoeBaD
But Fvck you people if you don't think this is the best country and government that man has yet devised.
I don't recall any America bashing in this thread - perhaps I missed something.

That's my Amen - gotta get to bed. I work
We are all very proud of you for having a job. Perhaps if the wealthy friends of your beloved President hadn't ransacked our economy, the rest of us might have jobs, too.


 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: JoeBaD
Ya know, the thing is, I am not a right wing nut. I believe in those things that I think will be best for my children and my possible retirement in 10 years or so.

I lean toward the republicans but I realize that they are many times jerks. Oh-but so are the democrates!

BUT - So, so many of you on this board are so friggin' naive and/or ignorant that you take the crap that you learned in high school or college and think that this is the whole truth. You will wake up some day.

Political parties take extremes because they can get good money that way. What makes you think that your snot nose little opinions make a damn bit of difference in this wonderful country or the rest of the world. The day you sit down at a $1,000 a plate dinner, your opinion becomes to matter. Otherwise you're blowing smoke. Sorry to pop the balloon.

But to those of you who discredit this country, tell me - who would you rather be dominant?

North Korea, France, Poland, China, Australia (my personal choice besides the UK if not the US - maybe an English speaking preferrence but I think more just a damn good people preference), Brazil, whatever.

Anyway, the point is the US (and its people) are not trying to build an empire. We, and I think Bush (and Clinton between BJs :)) want us to prosper and lead the rest of the world to prosperity (sp). - And, you flaming idiots on this board who don't think this country is not the finest dominent (again (sp) tired and drunk) power that has ever been in such position in the history of the world should revisit your text books.

yes, I didn't like Clinton. I feel better about Bush. History will tell-maybe I'm wrong. But Fvck you people if you don't think this is the best country and government that man has yet devised.

That's my Amen - gotta get to bed. I work
Good gawd man, you came back for more?! Wow, that takes some real balls. Okay Einstein, maybe if you don't like living in a country that allows criticism of its own government, you should go live somewhere else. I hear North Korea's real down on that whole talking smack about the supreme leader thing. That should work out pretty well for ya...
 

Gaard

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shinerburke - <<Tell me again how Bush, or any President, has anything to do with the economy. As for the war....Bush gets all the credit and the American people realize it was a job that needed to be done and was well done.>>

But what's your opinion on whether or our leaders were 100% honest with us? Do you even care?


And JoeBaD,*hic* your last post is hilarious. *hic*I think you should drink and post some more. *hic*
 

dmcowen674

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"Anyway, the point is the US (and its people) are not trying to build an empire."

How many years was that guy from South Carolina in Office??? Not trying to build an Empire because there is already an Empire.
 

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