A little thought regarding voting

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DarkKnight69

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I sit here and look at the post of people asking if they should vote or if it is worth the time and effort and I have come to a relization.

Up to 50,000 men died fighting to give all americans the oppertunity to have free vote and be released from foreign rule in the American Revolution.

Over 126,000 united states soldiers died defending your freedoms in the first world war.

Over 292,000 united states soldiers died defending your freedoms in the second world war.

They fought to protect the very right to choose your own government, to allow you to decide who controls you. It is one of the greatest rights of free peoples to decide who will represent them...

I think it is a little sad that you cannot decide if you wanna get off your ass and goto a damn polling station to excersise that right. Seems to me that their lives are kinda a waste if you are not willing to vote.

There are people in this world that would kill or die for the right to have free vote...
 
Nik

Nik

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Agreed, but I refuse to get off my ass and go to a polling station. I'm sorry.

Now hush while I finish filling out my vote-by-mail ballot. :p
 
SmoochyTX

SmoochyTX

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Originally posted by: DarkKnight69
I sit here and look at the post of people asking if they should vote or if it is worth the time and effort and I have come to a relization.

Up to 50,000 men died fighting to give all americans the oppertunity to have free vote and be released from foreign rule in the American Revolution.

Over 126,000 united states soldiers died defending your freedoms in the first world war.

Over 292,000 united states soldiers died defending your freedoms in the second world war.

They fought to protect the very right to choose your own government, to allow you to decide who controls you. It is one of the greatest rights of free peoples to decide who will represent them...

I think it is a little sad that you cannot decide if you wanna get off your ass and goto a damn polling station to excersise that right. Seems to me that their lives are kinda a waste if you are not willing to vote.

There are people in this world that would kill or die for the right to have free vote...
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JSFLY

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Very inspiring, but unfortunately.... some including me are lacking confidence in the democratic voting system. (bush)
 
SonnyDaze

SonnyDaze

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Originally posted by: JSFLY
Very inspiring, but unfortunately.... some including me are lacking confidence in the democratic voting system. (bush)
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So you lack confidence in the voting system itself or just in Bush? Either way, you not voting won't fix it. You'll probably just b|tch anyways.


 
Rock Hydra

Rock Hydra

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I choose not to vote since I do not follow elections, debates, politics or whatever. On that note, since I don't vote, I'm not one of those people who bitch and moan about the system either. But, love the country I live in, and I'm happy for the fact that we have a right to vote, but just because certain people don't utilize things, doesn't mean they're ungreatful.
 
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thesurge

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At the same time, these soldiers fought for our right to choose whether we want to vote or not.
 
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JSFLY

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Originally posted by: SonnyDaze
Originally posted by: JSFLY
Very inspiring, but unfortunately.... some including me are lacking confidence in the democratic voting system. (bush)
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So you lack confidence in the voting system itself or just in Bush? Either way, you not voting won't fix it. You'll probably just b|tch anyways.
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1) I do vote.
2) I lack confidence in the system.
Why?
-Look at what happened in Florida
-Issues with electronic voting machines
-Look who our system elected into office.... Bush... Do you think the soldiers who fought in WW1, WW2, etc... fought so that Bush can start mindless wars in nations that don't concern us and sacrifice more lives?
3) I have a right to bitch, just as you have the right to be an ass. Now please get the ____ off my back.
 
Stunt

Stunt

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Soldiers died for rights and freedoms, not for the idiots on the ballot :)
 
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mundane

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There's a difference between informed voting and casting your ballot for the candidate who's pictures and sounds on your television offended your senses the least.
 
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Eos

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The first time I voted was the last time I voted at the poll. 1992. Vote by mail (Oregon) since and absentee (Washington) now.

I heard some dude on Fox News telling us that "Vote by mail is bad because in 7 states a person other than the voter can be tasked to drop off the ballot, and then THEY COULD STEAL THE BALLOT!!!1111one" :confused:
 
Cuda1447

Cuda1447

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Does my vote really matter? The elections are just a giant 'whose the best salesmen, or who belongs to what party' anyway.


If I could actually see a meaningful informative debate between the candidates for governor where I live, or even for different judges, I'd sure as hell watch, and vote. But the fact of the matter is that we get VERY little actual information about the candidates without having to jump through hoops to get it. I see their names all day long on tv, see which party they represent, and see one or two bs 'sales' techniques. Aside from that, I know sh!t about them. And its difficult to really get very good information.


Furthermore, in presidential elections, does my vote really even matter? Nope. Electoral college basicaly makes my vote pointless, as I live in a heavily republican area. If I vote republican or democrat, it really doesn't matter because one vs 100k doesn't do crap. Even if I tell ALL my friends to vote too, its like 20 vs 100k, still nothing. It might be something if my vote didn't get THROWN AWAY, and the popular vote actually deteremined presidential elections, but thats simply not the case.

The whole election process is BS. So why should I cast a vote for a candidate I know very little about? Maybe I should do it based on what party I agree with more? Oh wait, bi-partisan politics SUCK. Guess I won't vote then.
 
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SophalotJack

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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Does my vote really matter? The elections are just a giant 'whose the best salesmen, or who belongs to what party' anyway.


If I could actually see a meaningful informative debate between the candidates for governor where I live, or even for different judges, I'd sure as hell watch, and vote. But the fact of the matter is that we get VERY little actual information about the candidates without having to jump through hoops to get it. I see their names all day long on tv, see which party they represent, and see one or two bs 'sales' techniques. Aside from that, I know sh!t about them. And its difficult to really get very good information.


Furthermore, in presidential elections, does my vote really even matter? Nope. Electoral college basicaly makes my vote pointless, as I live in a heavily republican area. If I vote republican or democrat, it really doesn't matter because one vs 100k doesn't do crap. Even if I tell ALL my friends to vote too, its like 20 vs 100k, still nothing. It might be something if my vote didn't get THROWN AWAY, and the popular vote actually deteremined presidential elections, but thats simply not the case.

The whole election process is BS. So why should I cast a vote for a candidate I know very little about? Maybe I should do it based on what party I agree with more? Oh wait, bi-partisan politics SUCK. Guess I won't vote then.
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You got 19 RL friends?

shens.
 
SmoochyTX

SmoochyTX

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Apr 19, 2003
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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Does my vote really matter? The elections are just a giant 'whose the best salesmen, or who belongs to what party' anyway.


If I could actually see a meaningful informative debate between the candidates for governor where I live, or even for different judges, I'd sure as hell watch, and vote. But the fact of the matter is that we get VERY little actual information about the candidates without having to jump through hoops to get it. I see their names all day long on tv, see which party they represent, and see one or two bs 'sales' techniques. Aside from that, I know sh!t about them. And its difficult to really get very good information.


Furthermore, in presidential elections, does my vote really even matter? Nope. Electoral college basicaly makes my vote pointless, as I live in a heavily republican area. If I vote republican or democrat, it really doesn't matter because one vs 100k doesn't do crap. Even if I tell ALL my friends to vote too, its like 20 vs 100k, still nothing. It might be something if my vote didn't get THROWN AWAY, and the popular vote actually deteremined presidential elections, but thats simply not the case.

The whole election process is BS. So why should I cast a vote for a candidate I know very little about? Maybe I should do it based on what party I agree with more? Oh wait, bi-partisan politics SUCK. Guess I won't vote then.
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First of all, this isn't a presidential election. Second of all, do you expect the candidates to show up on your door step and introduce themselves? Getting to know their beliefs, voting history, etc is up to you as a voter.

In this day and age, if somebody can't research potential political candidates and decide who they want to vote for then it is the voters' fault. This isn't 1800. This isn't 1900. This isn't 2000.

Even after all of this, if every single person voting for (example) an Independent candidate felt their vote didn't or wouldn't count, even if the voters for that candidate was in the majority, then what's the sense of allowing more than a 2 party system?

I suppose everybody would be happy with a purely Democrat vs Republican ticket the rest of their life right?

*Sorry, but I'm just tired of hearing people say their vote doesn't count. It doesn't matter who you vote for but if you don't vote just because you don't believe it doesn't count, just think. Can you imagine how much change could happen in that circumstance?*
 
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Indolent

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Originally posted by: JSFLY
Originally posted by: SonnyDaze
Originally posted by: JSFLY
Very inspiring, but unfortunately.... some including me are lacking confidence in the democratic voting system. (bush)
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So you lack confidence in the voting system itself or just in Bush? Either way, you not voting won't fix it. You'll probably just b|tch anyways.
Click to expand...

1) I do vote.
2) I lack confidence in the system.
Why?
-Look at what happened in Florida
-Issues with electronic voting machines
-Look who our system elected into office.... Bush... Do you think the soldiers who fought in WW1, WW2, etc... fought so that Bush can start mindless wars in nations that don't concern us and sacrifice more lives?
3) I have a right to bitch, just as you have the right to be an ass. Now please get the ____ off my back.
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Your post makes you look like one of them conspiracy nuts...
 
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cr0ssfire

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I agree, to an extent, with the OP. I think that voting is an important freedom that we enjoy, and one that should be exercised as often as possible. However, you need to also understand when people don't vote not out of laziness but out of a disgust with the current state of the election system - that is, when they feel that there is no legitimate candidate(s) to vote for.

They're still voicing their opinions, but in a different way.

I myself didn't bother to go to the polls because I am deathly fed up with both parties. I'm tired of both Democrat and Republican politicians saying and doing anything to get elected. I'm tired of the scandals, I'm tired of all the mudslinging, I'm tired of having so many policies which are slowly doing America in. And I'm sure sick of the election year commotion! Every time there's an election any more, I get absolutely deluged with political ads wherever I go.

What do I see when I go driving? Billboards that say "Vote Joe".
When I pull in the neighborhood, what do I see? Signs for "Vote Joe" on peoples' lawns.
How about when I go home and watch TV? Commercials for "Vote Joe" and why Joe's opponent is 'troubling' or 'unqualified'.
Or if I turn on the radio? Programs with Joe or his supporters on there, saying "Vote Joe".
When the phone rings, what do I get? Joe's people yammering at me to "Don't forget to get out there and Vote for Joe!"
Or when I go check my e-mail? Spam saying "ROCK THE VOTE and Vote Joe".

It's mind-boggling to me how much money in advertising gets flushed down the toilet every election year. :(
 
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