A little help with buying a cpu

entropy1982

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Hey guys I am building a new system by the end of august.

Basically i am looking to get a pretty decent comp for today:

DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard

OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Platinum System Memory

dont know which power supply but will be a good one

ANTEC P180 Case

2x hitachi sata II drives raid 0

nvidia 7800GT or gtx or 6800 gt havent decided

THERMALRIGHT XP-90 Heatsink with panaflo


Here is my question:
Basically I am planning to OC the 3000+ if i get it and sell it for 50 bux or whatever it will be worthin a year or so and then buy whatever dual core i can for about 300ish and overclock that. My other option would be to just buy the x2 3800+ that is coming out for 350.

The reason i am leaning towards the first option is that i rarely multitask heavily and I would only be getting the processor for apps that would benefit from it like future games so i think a year or so of using the 3000+ and then selling it would be a decent option for me.

Any opinions are appreciated
thanks
 

AMDrulZ

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Go on and get you the X2 from what I have read on anandtech and other places the X2's don't really do badly with gaming in fact that X2 3800 should do as well if not better than that single core 3000. Plus you won't have to upgrade after a year if you don't want to. Because you already would have a dual core for the multithreaded program's it won't be the fastest rig on the block but hell the 3000 won't be either but it should still do fine a year from now.
 

entropy1982

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Originally posted by: AMDrulZ
Go on and get you the X2 from what I have read on anandtech and other places the X2's don't really do badly with gaming in fact that X2 3800 should do as well if not better than that single core 3000. Plus you won't have to upgrade after a year if you don't want to. Because you already would have a dual core for the multithreaded program's it won't be the fastest rig on the block but hell the 3000 won't be either but it should still do fine by then

I think you misunderstood my question. What i am saying is i will not get much of an advantage by having the 3800 right now since i don't multitask much... so it will perform the same as my 3000+ for 220 bux more. What i am saying is in a year or two when mainstream programs actually start utilizing dual core i will be able to sell my 3000+ back for 50-75 and use that money plus another 250 or so to get the best x2 i can get at the time for that money. The main reasoning behind this strategy involves the fact that processor prices will go down in a year or two (obviously)
 

AMDrulZ

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Yes the prices will go down by then and there might even faster model's out by then but a year is kind of a long time. And the question you have to ask yourself is will I still be doing the same old thing's on my computer a year from now thing's can come up in a year or two getting the X2 would mean you would have the power you need when you need it. It kind of suck's if you try and do something and your computer can't handle it. But if you think a 3000 single core chip will last and give you the power you need for a year or two get it. If you are unsure get the X2 3800 when it comes out.
 

entropy1982

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Originally posted by: AMDrulZ
Yes the prices will go down by then and there might even faster model's out by then but a year is kind of a long time. And the question you have to ask yourself is will I still be doing the same old thing's on my computer a year from now thing's can come up in a year or two getting the X2 would mean you would have the power you need when you need it. It kind of suck's if you try and do something and your computer can't handle it. But if you think a 3000 single core chip will last and give you the power you need for a year or two get it. If you are unsure get the X2 3800 when it comes out.

Yea i am pretty sure... i really don't multitask heavily... i mean i never encode movies or anything like that really... if i do start encoding them i mean it would be once or twice every 2 weeks or something. The main reason behind my question is more about ... do you guys think that for about 300 bux i will be able to get a substantially better processor than the 3800 or maybe get the 3800 for a much smaller price (200ish). Please keep in mind that i plan to overclock no matter what i get to as high as it will go without messing around with voltage too much

thanks
 

AMD4SURE

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I think you ought to spend the extra $40 and get the 3200+ to get the 10.0 multplier and OC it a little. If your not multitasking, you wont miss it anyway. plus you will have faster single threaded apps any how. The only down fall I see is that in a year or so the 3000+ or 3200+ you be lucky to get $50 for they will be selling new for close to that. IMHO.
 

entropy1982

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Originally posted by: AMD4SURE
I think you ought to spend the extra $40 and get the 3200+ to get the 10.0 multplier and OC it a little. If your not multitasking, you wont miss it anyway. plus you will have faster single threaded apps any how. The only down fall I see is that in a year or so the 3000+ or 3200+ you be lucky to get $50 for they will be selling new for close to that. IMHO.

Well actually you can ask most people on this forum that the 3000+ overclocks to the same speeds as the 3200+ venice and i don't plan to run my ram 1:1 so the extra multi wouldn't do anything for me. As far as the $50 is concerned... you may be right who knows... but if u go on ebay ... people are dumb there and buy things for more than they are worth new =)
 

AMDrulZ

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Well then I say get that little 3000 for the stuff you do it should be fine!!! It is only a basic Internet and game computer nothing heavy then why Spend $300 on a processor. Just get good ram and a good graphic's card and have fun with your new Athlon-64 I wish I had one!!! Will be getting one soon!!! I can't wait!!!
 

furballi

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Get the 3000. Easy 2.3GHz. Perhaps +2.5GHz with a decent CPU. Personally, I would keep the FSB between 250 and 260MHz for stability.