A kid in my MIS class said the other day...

[geno]

Originally posted by: ufs
there might be some truth to the "data reliability burned at slower speeds" theory. When I was working as a tech support specialist in a well-known electronics company, our trainer told us that (it's been a couple of years so don't remember the exact details but it was something along these lines) audio CDs burned at higher speeds tend to become unusable quicker than those burned at slower speeds. She also explained exactly why it happens (it had something to do with spinning) and it made perfect sense at that time. I quit that job an year ago and I hated that job anyway (besides the fact that I learned a lot) so I don't want to remember that time.

I believe that part of it, I was just in awe that he said "the disc is burnt at a lower temperature with lower write speeds, that makes the data stay longer"

 

[SinnerWolf]

that's why all my burner drives are water cooled. 😀

 

[Vortex22]

Is MIS really a terrible major? That was one of the ones I was considering. I don't like programming (CS), and I wanted to go into IT originally, but it requires just as many programming classes as a CS degree does.

If I'm going to go into the college of business, would it be a better idea to do something like marketing or finance instead of MIS?

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Cougar

Originally posted by: geno
That he'd choose AOL over Earthlink because Earthlink is the devil 😕


He also says that a 2X DVD Writer is much more reliable, and makes longer lasting copies than a 4X because it "burns at a lower temperature, so the data stays longer"


😕

Sounds like a real genius. Years ago there was someone in my class (who bragged about being A+ certified) that made me want to hurt him in unspeakable ways. He told me that any printer capable of printing at 150dpi could print photo quality pictures because computers can't support anything higher than 150dpi. He also informed me that Windows 95 (any version) couldn't support USB and only Windows 98 could support it (this was before win2k). Genius I say, pure genius.

heh...actually 72dpi is the IE detail-limit if I recal correctly.....

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: geno
Oh, and according to him, FireWire's bandwidth exceeds 2 GB's per second, as opposed to USB's 100MB's

we're not talking about Gigabits, he specifically said bytes, same with USB, 100MBytes

that one made me want to say something...though I restrained myself

Fear of public speaking, eh?

 

[LordJezo]

pfft.. he'll get a better job then anyone in there who knows anything.

don't you know? it's the way the world works.. all the dummies get the good jobs!

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: ufs
there might be some truth to the "data reliability burned at slower speeds" theory. When I was working as a tech support specialist in a well-known electronics company, our trainer told us that (it's been a couple of years so don't remember the exact details but it was something along these lines) audio CDs burned at higher speeds tend to become unusable quicker than those burned at slower speeds. She also explained exactly why it happens (it had something to do with spinning) and it made perfect sense at that time. I quit that job an year ago and I hated that job anyway (besides the fact that I learned a lot) so I don't want to remember that time.

I believe that part of it, I was just in awe that he said "the disc is burnt at a lower temperature with lower write speeds, that makes the data stay longer"

That's what happens when you have only half of correct info and half of the bad. Eoor correction, an SEVERE error correction at that, allows for such flawless-appearing burns. Slower speed might result in better copies but in the end:

1) it won't REALLY make a discernable difference
2) the same damn laser will burn at the same damn temp
3) it is all model/manufactuer dependant.


Don't you know most MIS kids are ducshes😀

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Vortex22
Is MIS really a terrible major? That was one of the ones I was considering. I don't like programming (CS), and I wanted to go into IT originally, but it requires just as many programming classes as a CS degree does.

If I'm going to go into the college of business, would it be a better idea to do something like marketing or finance instead of MIS?

Honestly, the way I see it, MIS tries to teach you a little bit of everything and in the end is prolly worse less than a CS degree.

IT is usually networking and programming for automation not to mention the planning. Might as well get a CS or Dmajor in CS and MIS/Business..but I wouldn't do just MIS

 

[xchangx]

IT is usually networking and programming for automation not to mention the planning. Might as well get a CS or Dmajor in CS and MIS/Business..but I wouldn't do just MIS

I think it depends on the school and program.

At my school, we focus a lot on programming (automatiaclly get a CS minor), however we learn all the aspects of the business world (accounting, marketing, management, etc...).

Another focus of our program is project work, in our last 2 semesters we work on projects for companies like Walmart, Kimberly-Clark, Aquity Lighting, Proctor and Gamble, and so on. It's a really good program and from what I've seem we're the only ones that do the type of projects that we do.

 

[AbsolutDealage]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: ufs
there might be some truth to the "data reliability burned at slower speeds" theory. When I was working as a tech support specialist in a well-known electronics company, our trainer told us that (it's been a couple of years so don't remember the exact details but it was something along these lines) audio CDs burned at higher speeds tend to become unusable quicker than those burned at slower speeds. She also explained exactly why it happens (it had something to do with spinning) and it made perfect sense at that time. I quit that job an year ago and I hated that job anyway (besides the fact that I learned a lot) so I don't want to remember that time.

I believe that part of it, I was just in awe that he said "the disc is burnt at a lower temperature with lower write speeds, that makes the data stay longer"

That's what happens when you have only half of correct info and half of the bad. Eoor correction, an SEVERE error correction at that, allows for such flawless-appearing burns. Slower speed might result in better copies but in the end:

1) it won't REALLY make a discernable difference
2) the same damn laser will burn at the same damn temp
3) it is all model/manufactuer dependant.


Don't you know most MIS kids are ducshes😀

Burning at lower speeds has nothing to do with the long-term stability or laser temp, but it does have something to do with accuracy. When you burn the discs at higher speeds, the pits become a little less accurate, and they are a little bit more likely to be read incorrectly by another drive.

Anyways, when you make a "golden" disc that will be sent off site for reproduction, it is required that you burn it at 1x. I guess they slap that thing on some sort of testbed that can determine the width, depth, and placement accuracy of the pits. If it doesn't pass, they will not dupe it. We tried burning a disc once at 4x, and it was sent back to us. Burned it at 1x, and there were no problems. Go figure.

BTW, that kid is still a jacka$$... he deserves to fail miserably and work as a greeter at walmart or something.

 

[kt]

Originally posted by: geno
Oh, and according to him, FireWire's bandwidth exceeds 2 GB's per second, as opposed to USB's 100MB's

we're not talking about Gigabits, he specifically said bytes, same with USB, 100MBytes

that one made me want to say something...though I restrained myself

By not saying anything, you are confirming his claim. This makes you just as bad as him.

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: geno
Oh, and according to him, FireWire's bandwidth exceeds 2 GB's per second, as opposed to USB's 100MB's

we're not talking about Gigabits, he specifically said bytes, same with USB, 100MBytes

that one made me want to say something...though I restrained myself

Fear of public speaking, eh?

Far from it.

This makes you just as bad as him.

So what, I'm supposed to take time from class to try to attempt to correct this kid? What makes you think he'll believe what I say over what he already thinks he knows anyways?

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: geno
Oh, and according to him, FireWire's bandwidth exceeds 2 GB's per second, as opposed to USB's 100MB's

we're not talking about Gigabits, he specifically said bytes, same with USB, 100MBytes

that one made me want to say something...though I restrained myself

Fear of public speaking, eh?

Far from it.

This makes you just as bad as him.

So what, I'm supposed to take time from class to try to attempt to correct this kid? What makes you think he'll believe what I say over what he already thinks he knows anyways?

I have to agree with the comment as well as your response on this one. Some people will not listen no matter how much proof you can show them that they're wrong. But then again, you should at least enlighten the others in your class by letting them see what's right and what isn't.

 

[peterskm]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
You know, I never really understood what these CIS & MIS majors are like...I don't think I've ever met anyone that's majored in either one of these programs. I'm not even sure if my undergrad university even OFFERED these! Are these more common in the larger public schools?

The above post covers what MIS is. In my school, it was a business degree with a background in computer technology/programming, etc. I majored in CIS which is the opposite (computer technology/programming, etc with a background in business). I chose it because I didn't want a job as a geeky programmer which most CS grads went on to become. CIS was supposed to groom you for a System Analyst position. To make the decision easier, at my college, the CIS grads were getting a better average salary than CS grads (who knows how true the numbers were). Anyways, I graduated and got a job as, surprise, a geeky programmer.