Shadow of the Hegemon........I can't believe they are going to make a movie of it all.......Man, this is the BOMB!
Yes, Ender Wiggin, Ender the Xenocide, Andrew Wiggin... 
The books order goes as such.. Ender's Game, Speaker for the Dead, Xenocide, and Children of the Mind. The parallel universe of Bean (Ender's friend) goes, Ender's Shadow and Shadow of the Hegemon. Here is a link to all the information on the movie http://www.frescopictures.com/movies/ender/index.html
Check out the forums for the newest information.
Tavis
The books order goes as such.. Ender's Game, Speaker for the Dead, Xenocide, and Children of the Mind. The parallel universe of Bean (Ender's friend) goes, Ender's Shadow and Shadow of the Hegemon. Here is a link to all the information on the movie http://www.frescopictures.com/movies/ender/index.htmlCheck out the forums for the newest information.
Tavis
AI.
I'd rather be poked in the eye. Hollywood really needs to do more research before
making a movie. Computers are stupid electicial devices that don't think. Will never
think. And, will never be smarter than a roach.
I'm tired of this reused story line of machines ruling the world. Everybody together
now "Let's send a machine back intime to destory Sarah Connor....." Furthermore,
you just can't count the times that I find myself saying "You know, Star Trek Next
Generation, just didn't make enough Data stories."
Helloooooo. Machines, I repeat, don't think.
I have to go now, my PeeCee is yelling at me. I forgot it's our anniversary. Forgot
it's birthday last week. And heaven help me, it thinks I'm seeing another computer at
work. Computer said that I just don't spend the quality time that I used to with it.
It asked me if I thought it's harddrives were too small. Now, it wants firewire implants.
Yet, my computer seems a little bit happier. Apparently, it's got a crush on a man named William Gates. He's giving it an O/S update that will prevent me from ever changing its hardware again. I'm trying to fight this change. My computer won't talk
to me.
Is William Gates a human or a A.I. robot?
I'd rather be poked in the eye. Hollywood really needs to do more research before
making a movie. Computers are stupid electicial devices that don't think. Will never
think. And, will never be smarter than a roach.
I'm tired of this reused story line of machines ruling the world. Everybody together
now "Let's send a machine back intime to destory Sarah Connor....." Furthermore,
you just can't count the times that I find myself saying "You know, Star Trek Next
Generation, just didn't make enough Data stories."
Helloooooo. Machines, I repeat, don't think.
I have to go now, my PeeCee is yelling at me. I forgot it's our anniversary. Forgot
it's birthday last week. And heaven help me, it thinks I'm seeing another computer at
work. Computer said that I just don't spend the quality time that I used to with it.
It asked me if I thought it's harddrives were too small. Now, it wants firewire implants.
Yet, my computer seems a little bit happier. Apparently, it's got a crush on a man named William Gates. He's giving it an O/S update that will prevent me from ever changing its hardware again. I'm trying to fight this change. My computer won't talk
to me.
Is William Gates a human or a A.I. robot?
<< Computers are stupid electicial devices that don't think. Will never >>
Last I checked, you were a stupid electrical device too, what's the difference? I bet your computer seems pretty smart when you play a game of (insert any game with decent AI). Is the computer thinking? Naa, but it sure seems like it's smarter than you in that case. So if a computer were programmed to exhibit a reasonable facsimile of love, it could probably do it as well as, or better than a human can. Add to this some directives like "don't get your body hurt" and a machine can act very human. That already makes the robots in these kind of movies feasible. And for the question of whether machines can think, there's no reason to think they couldn't, but I'm tired of writing now, so I'll let someone else take over =)
<< tickets are $11-13 bucks >>
And don't forget to multiply that by 2 for your date. That is exactly why I would rather just buy another DVD than go to a movie. My couch, my popcorn, my beer, my home theater! For less than the price of going out I own another stinkin' movie
wan23
Good reply. However, at our current technology level, thinking machines are a dream.
Of course, I had the AI lectures in college. The key quote by the professor "Once you
give them the ability to use logic to make conclusions, then you have to live by their
judgements." Good or bad. Wheither they inadvertly kill or not. Which will probraby
never happens, since no one in his right mind will take that responsibility or liability.
Furthermore, there's the language issue, too. Yes, we as programmers can write software to interpet speaking. But, we are lightyears away from creating software to understand
context speech. "We'll run your ideal up a flagpole and see how it flies." What exactly does a statement like this mean to a computer.
Furthermore, there's the vision issue. You and I can look at an object and understand it logical purpose. Take a chair for example. We have kitchen chairs, stools, couches, ... Computers have to take a bitmapped image and try to parse out unnecessary information and then jump to a conclusion of what to do with it. As the computer's persective changes, gets closer or farther, to the left or the right of an object, it now has to posses the understanding and reasoning of what the object still is. Yes, software and understanding lightyears away.
In my mind, the closest movie to A.I. would be, I think, Saturn IV with Kirk Douglas and Farrah. The robot use unborn fetal brain tissue. Morbid, but probraby real.
Good reply. However, at our current technology level, thinking machines are a dream.
Of course, I had the AI lectures in college. The key quote by the professor "Once you
give them the ability to use logic to make conclusions, then you have to live by their
judgements." Good or bad. Wheither they inadvertly kill or not. Which will probraby
never happens, since no one in his right mind will take that responsibility or liability.
Furthermore, there's the language issue, too. Yes, we as programmers can write software to interpet speaking. But, we are lightyears away from creating software to understand
context speech. "We'll run your ideal up a flagpole and see how it flies." What exactly does a statement like this mean to a computer.
Furthermore, there's the vision issue. You and I can look at an object and understand it logical purpose. Take a chair for example. We have kitchen chairs, stools, couches, ... Computers have to take a bitmapped image and try to parse out unnecessary information and then jump to a conclusion of what to do with it. As the computer's persective changes, gets closer or farther, to the left or the right of an object, it now has to posses the understanding and reasoning of what the object still is. Yes, software and understanding lightyears away.
In my mind, the closest movie to A.I. would be, I think, Saturn IV with Kirk Douglas and Farrah. The robot use unborn fetal brain tissue. Morbid, but probraby real.
i can't believe how much you people are paying for movie tickets......
the theater 5 minutes from here is $2.00 (it was $1.50 up until about fall of 99)
free refills on drinks and popcorn too
still, nothing is cheaper that divx (or vcd)
the theater 5 minutes from here is $2.00 (it was $1.50 up until about fall of 99)
free refills on drinks and popcorn too
still, nothing is cheaper that divx (or vcd)
haha, divx out before the theatre date? Sure...are you gonna tell me next you're Michael Jordan? WERD!
<< well, i think some people already saw it. Its called divx. >>
<< well, i think some people already saw it. Its called divx. >>
Funny, I saw The Matrix 2 days before it hit the theater, in Divx format..........Can I be Michael Jordan?
Seeing it friday at 11:30 AM. I guess they still do matinees for the big movies. I can dunk on MJ.
freakflag
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I saw it and loved it. This is a very cerebral film...no explosions or fart jokes here. Primo purist Sci-fi. If you read Analog, you'll dig this movie. Make sure you see it on the big screen, too. It'll lose something on a tube. BTW I'd like to state, for the record, that I happen to enjoy fart jokes very much, just don't want spend $7.75 to see a freakin' washed up has-been like Eddie Murphy. He shoulda quit after Trading Places.
Wow, im proud of myself..... sat through the whole 2 anda half hour thing! You never know what was gonna happen next, and because it never made sense, you never cared!!! There were enough plot holes to drive a fleet of freightliners through. BAD, stay away!!
Hey freakflag,
If that movie was cerebral then so are the Teletubbies! Stanley Kubrick is rolling over in his grave (with what Spielberg has done to this movie)! I paid $7.75 each for tickets to this over-hyped drudgery. I whole heartedly agree with Natural Chiller, Citrix, Locutus4, Flint7 and Rebes. If you must, see it at a cheap matinee.
If that movie was cerebral then so are the Teletubbies! Stanley Kubrick is rolling over in his grave (with what Spielberg has done to this movie)! I paid $7.75 each for tickets to this over-hyped drudgery. I whole heartedly agree with Natural Chiller, Citrix, Locutus4, Flint7 and Rebes. If you must, see it at a cheap matinee.
I agree. Easily Spielbergs WORST movie ever. I usually enjoy movies even crappy ones. Nearly fell asleep thrice in the theater.
CG was awesome. Story made sense but it changed direction too often. I was just like "WTF how the hell did they put that stuff in there."
The ads for this movie totally veered me off course. The initial part of the story made a lot of sense but later on you get the feeling Spielberg was just playing out his fantasy life.
Sort of like a "oooh lets add this and this and this mash it up together and make the second half of the story.
I give it a 1/10
CG was awesome. Story made sense but it changed direction too often. I was just like "WTF how the hell did they put that stuff in there."
The ads for this movie totally veered me off course. The initial part of the story made a lot of sense but later on you get the feeling Spielberg was just playing out his fantasy life.
Sort of like a "oooh lets add this and this and this mash it up together and make the second half of the story.
I give it a 1/10
freakflag
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Laugh now, Papa, but I know that you'll be the first one in line to buy it on DVD. You people are nuts. Just because the film doesn't spoon-feed you the plotline doesn't make it bad. Unless, of course, you watch the Teletubbies. That Sh!t will rot your brain and twist the fragile minds of America's young.
You people are nuts. Just because the film doesn't spoon-feed you the plotline doesn't make it bad. Unless, of course, you watch the Teletubbies. That Sh!t will rot your brain and twist the fragile minds of America's young.TRENDING THREADS
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