A hypothetical question for Christians and non-believers.

[TitanDiddly]

Originally posted by: J Heartless Slick

Originally posted by: Gravity

Originally posted by: SchrodingersDog
I'm not a Christian, so I haven't been taught this, but is the popular belief that he knew it was coming and he let it?

It was prophesied (told of) hundreds of years before it happened. And yes, He knew it was coming. The day he was betrayed by Judas, he prayed in a garden that God would "let this cup pass from me, but not my will, but yours be done."

He knew full well what it meant and asked that it not happen unless it was what God wanted. Clearly, it was, according to Chrisitianity, the only way for sinful man to be restored to God. Faith in the sinless Son of God restores us fully.

Heaven cannot be achieved by doing good or mostly good, only through faith in Christ.

According to Jesus "I am the truth, the way and the light, no man comes unto the Father except by me."

That's why Christianity is an exclusive religion. It only provides for one way to get to heaven, not multiple paths or hidden combinations. That's mostly why other religions don't like it.

Where does it prophesied this in the Bible?

Isaiah.

 

[lobadobadingdong]

Let it happen, one of His teachings was not to go against law. The law of the time was that he was to be crusified. It was also God's will that it happened so there is no way anyone could have done anything about it any differently.

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: SchrodingersDog
Suppose there really was a historical person named Jesus who was crucified because he claimed to be a savior of humanity. If you were there, at his crucifixion, and you were able to stop his murder, would you save him and allow him to live out the remainder of his life? You don't know anything except there's this guy who claims to be THE messiah and they're about to execute him. You've heard prophecies that the messiah must die to redeem humanity.

What will you do:

Save this man's life, or allow him to die in hope that these prophecies are true?

Lets see, let someone die based on rumours and hearsay, or try to stop a man's murder. How much time to I have to think about it?

 

[Calin]

Originally posted by: J Heartless Slick

Originally posted by: SchrodingersDog
Suppose there really was a historical person named Jesus who was crucified because he claimed to be a savior of humanity. If you were there, at his crucifixion, and you were able to stop his murder, would you save him and allow him to live out the remainder of his life? You don't know anything except there's this guy who claims to be THE messiah and they're about to execute him. You've heard prophecies that the messiah must die to redeem humanity.

What will you do:

Save this man's life, or allow him to die in hope that these prophecies are true?

I am not sure that a person could do much to save someone the Roman's were going kill. The Romans were big on capital punishment and I think if anyone tried to interfere with one would have ended up nailed to a piece of wood too. Maybe a really large bribe would have worked.. The Romans killed Jesus because they considered him to be a trouble maker who was making noise around the Pass Over holiday.

Correct me if I am wrong, there was not a prophecy that the messiah was supposed to be murdered.

Your question has the implied foreknowledge of Jesus as the messiah. His own followers did not consider him the messiah until his resurrection, according to the christians, days after his death.

The romans did not want to kill the man. They even let the crowd choose the one to live between Jesus and a highway robber and whatnot. The crowd choosed as we know from the Bible

Calin

 

[Patt]

Does anyone have AIM for Jesus? I really need to talk to the dude.

 

[Mo0o]

i would let it happen

 

[jjones]

I'd take my family on a picnic lunch to watch the crucifixion.

 

[StageLeft]

Let it happen. He knows what he's doing, afterall.

 

[TheLonelyPhoenix]

Are you still tripping?

 

[nakedfrog]

I'd save him. Then I'd have a talk with him. "I know you say you're the son of god and all, and this is supposed to redeem humanity... but have you tried to talk to Pops and ask if there's a better way for redemption than you getting nailed to a big t and dying?"