A hydrogen question.

[William Gaatjes]

I have another question.

I recently saw this documentary (it is an old one i guess) :

Supermassive black holes


Suppose :
After the big bang we have the universe cooled down.

First question : Was there only hydrogen formed ?

If true then here is my second question :
Suppose there was only hydrogen. In a perfect vacuum, would 2 totally isolated hydrogen atoms be attracted to each other. I would say, they do because of gravity. How would they build up. Is a hydrogen atom electrically polar ? I would say yes.

My third question is :
If i take 3 hydrogen atoms, how would they stack up in a vacuum.
Now how would this continue ?
If i take 4 hydrogen atoms and so on. Is there a geometric shape formed that is also a maximum ? I mean to say would the process start again and form again such a geometric shape ?

Waiting for replies
Thank you in advance.

 

[CycloWizard]

Early enough in the process, I believe it was mostly bare protons flying around, which are essentially the nucleus of a hydrogen atom. Collisions could happen with or without gravity. Assuming the colliding atoms "stick," the shape depends on the conditions of their collision. If it was early enough after the bang, the "hydrogen" was probably really just bare protons, so if they "stuck" the collision, they would fuse together. Later on, if it were still hot enough, the atoms may still be able to fuse into helium. Otherwise, they would likely become the diatomic H_2 molecule.

All atoms have some degree of instantaneous polarity as a result of dispersion forces. That said, a hydrogen atom's polarity would be the lowest of any atom due to its small size.

 

[William Gaatjes]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Early enough in the process, I believe it was mostly bare protons flying around, which are essentially the nucleus of a hydrogen atom. Collisions could happen with or without gravity. Assuming the colliding atoms "stick," the shape depends on the conditions of their collision. If it was early enough after the bang, the "hydrogen" was probably really just bare protons, so if they "stuck" the collision, they would fuse together. Later on, if it were still hot enough, the atoms may still be able to fuse into helium. Otherwise, they would likely become the diatomic H_2 molecule.

All atoms have some degree of instantaneous polarity as a result of dispersion forces. That said, a hydrogen atom's polarity would be the lowest of any atom due to its small size.

Ok.
Let's assume...
If it was soley gravity that pulls the atoms together and it is cold enough that protons would no longer fuse together. To form primarily hydrogen. What would happen ?
Since there is polarity i would assume that there is a preference how these atoms would build up. And if i am not mistaken, then hydrogen is the primary element in the universe before the first stars where formed, even more as now.

The reason why i ask all of this is that i always had this idea that black holes are essential in our universe. According to this documentary, black holes are responsible for creating the forces to create galaxies. But then where do black holes come from ? Current theory is from the earliest of stars. I am curious how these stars must have formed. On the other hand :

outside_the_mainstream_on
Current assumption A black hole is a concentrated form of neutrons that seem to somehow synchronize with each other. It maybe is similar in it's way as a bose einstein condensate. But then with extreme high temperature instead of being cooled to almost zero.

The process you described as the very early universe. Possibly it was hot and extreme enough that black holes would have formed directly ? Skipping the star stage ?
outside_the_mainstream_off

I am curious how these stars (in a mainstream idea or an alternative idea) where formed.


EDIT Missed typing errors.

 

[William Gaatjes]

Originally posted by: William Gaatjes


outside_the_mainstream_on
Current assumption A black hole is a concentrated form of neutrons that seem to somehow synchronize with each other. It maybe is similar in it's way as a bose einstein condensate. But then with extreme high temperature instead of being cooled to almost zero.

The process you described as the very early universe. Possibly it was hot and extreme enough that black holes would have formed directly ? Skipping the star stage ?
outside_the_mainstream_off

I am curious how these stars (in a mainstream idea or an alternative idea) where formed.

Yahoo

I found my own possible answer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primordial_black_hole

I should have searched more...
Sorry Cyclowizard.