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A GUI telnet program?

DougK62

DougK62

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Let me explain what I want. Maybe something like this doesn't even exist, but I'm sure I'll get the answers from here 🙂 I want a graphical telnet program. I have three computers on my home network. Due to not much money, I have no KVM switches and I have only one monitor. My main computer with the monitor runs WinXP. Of the other two computers, one runs Red Hat 7.0 with GUI and the other runs Debian with no GUI. My network is 100mbit full duplex. What I'd like is to have a "graphical" telnet program that could run on my WinXP machine. With this program, I would be able to telnet to my RH7.0 machine and get a window on my WinXP machine that looks just like my desktop on the RH7.0 box. Is this possible? If not, can anyone recommend something similar? I hope I've made myself clear - if not, I'd be happy to be more detailed. Thank you!

Douglas

 
Do these programs do exactly as I need or do they compromise what I want in some way? Are they free? Have you used them? Which of the two do you recommend?

Thanks 🙂
 
Originally posted by: DougK62
Do these programs do exactly as I need or do they compromise what I want in some way? Are they free? Have you used them? Which of the two do you recommend?

Thanks 🙂
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vnc: free (beer atleast), you get a "remote desktop" of the other machine, its slow but easy.
hummingbird win32 x server (or whatever its called): its not free, its slow, its easy to use, it gives you more power in my opinion. I dont know of any free applications like this though.


vnc is pretty easy and its free. Id recommend starting out with that, unless you can find a free win32 X server thingy, then I would recommend trying them both out.
 
I'm not sure if you can find a free Xserver, but VNC is definately free. I haven't tried to, but I know you can get it to do X logins on some platforms too, so you could end up with a real 'desktop' instead of using twm, which is the default. At work we have vnc running out of inetd on our Solaris server and it gives you a standard dt login box like you would get at the console.

don't have a clue how it was set up, maybe I'll have to look into that someday here.

If you are running vnc in the standard mode, you can disconnect your session and everything stays active unlike a x server where everything must be started up new every time you launch.
 
I'm checking out VNC on their webpage and wow does it look neat! Thanks for the help - I'm going to try it out.

Douglas

 
I was in the same boat as you. VNC works great for this application. I'm using it off a 100mb network, and the speed is great.

Don't go and ditch the telnet (i prefer ssh). You may need to telnet in to start the vnc server. You can also use any windows manager you want, I use KDE. Just look through their documentation for details.

 
Originally posted by: TJ69
I was in the same boat as you. VNC works great for this application. I'm using it off a 100mb network, and the speed is great.
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Is this a busy network (more than say 20 machines)? If so, you dont see any latency issues?

Don't go and ditch the telnet (i prefer ssh). You may need to telnet in to start the vnc server. You can also use any windows manager you want, I use KDE. Just look through their documentation for details.
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ssh is definitely the better choice. telnetd should be removed.

 
XFree86 for Win32 and Cygwin might let you do this. You can pull up an Xterm in Windows (running Windowmaker, fvwm or KDE) and from there you might be able to rlogin/rsh. But my current Cygwin doesn't seem to have either binary. Check the Cygwin site.

Hummingbird Exceed is what I generally use for this. Licenses are a little high - like $200, IIRC - but it does what it needs to very well. I haven't tried the latest version, but the version that I have licensed through work seems to do the job well enough. You can even cut'n'paste from Windows to Xterms.

VNC, as everyone has said, works well and is free. The reason why I use Hummingbird, however, is speed. I usually have a fair amount of latency when I log into work, anyway, and VNC and latency do not go together well. But this isn't a problem for you. Like everyone else, I recommend VNC.
 
Originally posted by: pm
XFree86 for Win32 and Cygwin might let you do this. You can pull up an Xterm in Windows (running Windowmaker, fvwm or KDE) and from there you might be able to rlogin/rsh. But my current Cygwin doesn't seem to have either binary. Check the Cygwin site.
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Hummingbird Exceed is what I generally use for this. Licenses are a little high - like $200, IIRC - but it does what it needs to very well. I haven't tried the latest version, but the version that I have licensed through work seems to do the job well enough. You can even cut'n'paste from Windows to Xterms.
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Thats what I was thinking of. Ive used it at a couple of jobs and it works pretty well. Seemed faster than vnc.

EDIT: Removed some annoying H's
 
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I'm not sure that I completely understood the true meaning of this statement, nor any innuendo you might have been trying to convey. Could you elaborate a little?

Edit. Ah. Forget it. I think that I see your point. The bold characters helped. He wants to emulate a desktop and rlogin isn't going to help. Good point. Thanks n0cmonkey. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: pm
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I'm not sure that I completely understood the true meaning of this statement, nor any innuendo you might have been trying to convey. Could you elaborate a little?

Edit. Ah. Forget it. I think that I see your point. The bold characters helped. He wants to emulate a desktop and rlogin isn't going to help. Good point. Thanks n0cmonkey. 🙂
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rlogin is a horrible horrible thing. The security problems alone make it worth removing. Thats all 🙂
 
I've been using X-Win 32 for a couple years now, it's not free, but there are some student/educational discounts available. It's very fast, supports pretty much all of the X desktop varients, and now comes with a "free" SSH package from F-Secure. The advantage being that you don't have to bring up the SSH tunnel separately from the X session; it'll bring up the specified app in SSH with one double-click.

Support has always been better'n average, the license includes (at least) a year of upgrades, and they're very good at letting you know when upgrades are availabel (via email).

30 day full demos are available from the Starnet website.

FWIW

Scott
 
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