PhatoseAlpha
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I'm curious - why exactly can they never own the areas seized after the 6 day and Yom Kippur wars?
JS80 asserts, "lol buying land from someone who's willing to sell it = theft haha."
Which was somewhat partially true per-1948 as mainly Russian Jews immigrated back to Israel in a partly inspired Saul Hertzog back to the land movement. And many Arabs did sell their land to Jews.
Today, its almost 100% untrue, as the Israeli government simply seizes the Palestinian land and forces the Palestinians off their land and in a slow ongoing process dating from even before 1948. But when Israel starts pulling the same land theft stunts on land they can never own, namely those areas Israel seized after the 1967&73 wars, it really screws the pooch.
History has shown at worst Jews cannot survive without a state of Israel. To be anti-Zionist is to be anti-Semitic and support the wholesale slaughter of Jews. It's only a matter of time this happens without a state of Israel. There are too many Jew hating piece of shits like you and SandEagle on this Earth.
lol eff u, u arab hatin pos. I never hated on jews. I post articles that others have written to gauge opinion from the other side. Show me proof for callin me out. Thought so. Loser
You better get off the Native American lands that were seized then.
I don't go around calling for the destruction of Syria, Libya, Lebanon, Iraq, Jordan, etc. or any other Arab countries that arabs call their home but you go around spewing anti-Zionist propaganda wanting to create ANOTHER arab state by destroying Israel. As I explained before if you are anti-Zionist, you hate Jews and you want them dead. You don't have to say "I hate Jews" outright to show that you hate them.
History has shown at worst Jews cannot survive without a state of Israel. To be anti-Zionist is to be anti-Semitic and support the wholesale slaughter of Jews. It's only a matter of time this happens without a state of Israel. There are too many Jew hating piece of shits like you and SandEagle on this Earth.
Thats as idiotic as saying someone "isnt exused for not being a racist" when opposing Obama's policies and using the word democrat instead of black.
In terms of the longer 4000 or so history of the Jewish people, its been a remarkably resilient group, maintaining its cultural identity all over the world. And in the last 1800 years until very recently, most Jews have done it without any direct connection to Israel.
But maybe the greatest problem with Judaism has been the fact that its been a non-evangelistic religion. But as the parent religion to both Christianity and Islam, both of them instead evangelistic religions, the comparisons cannot possible be more stark.
As it is now estimated that there 2.1 billion living Christians, 1.5 billion living Muslims, and only 14 million living Jews scattered all over the world. With perhaps more Jews in the USA than Israel itself.
Which lead me to ask the question, at what point in time did the world's number of living Jews populations peak. The best link I found suggested that time was in 1940 at 16.6 million. After which the Hitler holocaust murdered about a third of all living Jews.
http://www.jewishachievement.com/domains/end.html
But there is another interesting point to make, in terms of the percentage of world's population that is Jewish, its now at perhaps a present low point, and if we take best estimate of Jewish scholars, the number of living Jews worldwide will decline to just 13.3 million by 2020 while the overall world's population is expected to greatly increase.
So I can totally understand the JOS position that Zionist Orthodox Jews are the greatest threat to the Jews themselves. And being 25% Jewish by ancestry myself, and an admirer of overall Jewish contributions to humanity through world history, seeing that kind of decline of Jewish thought can only be regarded as a loss to all of humanity.
In terms of the longer 4000 or so history of the Jewish people, its been a remarkably resilient group, maintaining its cultural identity all over the world. And in the last 1800 years until very recently, most Jews have done it without any direct connection to Israel.
But maybe the greatest problem with Judaism has been the fact that its been a non-evangelistic religion. But as the parent religion to both Christianity and Islam, both of them instead evangelistic religions, the comparisons cannot possible be more stark.
As it is now estimated that there 2.1 billion living Christians, 1.5 billion living Muslims, and only 14 million living Jews scattered all over the world. With perhaps more Jews in the USA than Israel itself.
Which lead me to ask the question, at what point in time did the world's number of living Jews populations peak. The best link I found suggested that time was in 1940 at 16.6 million. After which the Hitler holocaust murdered about a third of all living Jews.
http://www.jewishachievement.com/domains/end.html
But there is another interesting point to make, in terms of the percentage of world's population that is Jewish, its now at perhaps a present low point, and if we take best estimate of Jewish scholars, the number of living Jews worldwide will decline to just 13.3 million by 2020 while the overall world's population is expected to greatly increase.
So I can totally understand the JOS position that Zionist Orthodox Jews are the greatest threat to the Jews themselves. And being 25% Jewish by ancestry myself, and an admirer of overall Jewish contributions to humanity through world history, seeing that kind of decline of Jewish thought can only be regarded as a loss to all of humanity.
