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JulesMaximus

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That video could've been funny if it had been done with real voices and not having Microsoft Bob read the lines.


I also said it didn't have a real frame. If you tried to pull 5000lbs with a Ridgeline, you'd probably end up leaving the trailer and part of the rear end behind, that is if the thing even has enough torque to start moving.

Really? Do you have any evidence to back that statement up? Because according to the Honda specs it is rated to tow 5000lbs...usually manufacturers don't make those numbers up or just pull them out of their ass unlike the assumptions people make on here.

Now, I wouldn't recommend towing the maximum that ANY vehicle is rated but then again the guy who posted that thread never said he was going to tow anything. Just that he wanted a truck for general hauling and daily driving which the Ridgeline is perfectly capable of doing.
 

Zenmervolt

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I also said it didn't have a real frame. If you tried to pull 5000lbs with a Ridgeline, you'd probably end up leaving the trailer and part of the rear end behind, that is if the thing even has enough torque to start moving.

My father pulls 4,000+ pounds of boat with a Honda Pilot (same platform as the Ridgeline) with zero problems. Put 230,000 miles on a first-generation Pilot before trading it in on a second-generation model. I'm pretty sure if there were any issues with the unibody not holding up, he'd have found them.

The Pilots have towed better than the two V6 Explorers he had before them and almost, but not quite, as well as the Explorer with the 302 V8. A Pilot/Ridgeline wouldn't be my first choice for hauling a 25-foot enclosed trailer through the Rockies, but for the U-Haul trailers and under 20-foot pleasure boats that are all the majority of people ever tow, it will do just fine.

ZV
 

ShawnD1

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I also said it didn't have a real frame. If you tried to pull 5000lbs with a Ridgeline, you'd probably end up leaving the trailer and part of the rear end behind, that is if the thing even has enough torque to start moving.
Torque is one concept that everyone learns in school, yet few people understand.

The ability to perform work is dictated by power, not torque.
The way you get useful torque is by running your power through a transmission. If I want my Corolla's tiny engine to pull a trailer full of cattle (assuming nothing would break), it can be done by using a transmission that strongly favors torque over speed. That's the kind of transmission an 18 wheeler has; those things are in third gear by the time they get through an intersection. If you're trying to pull 5000 pounds using what's basically a Honda Accord engine, all it takes is a good transmission.

For the record, my parents motorhome from the 70s has less than 300 HP but the vehicle weighs over 10,000 lbs. It accelerates slow, but it works fine. A Honda truck pulling 5000 lbs would be less than 10,000 lbs total and is powered by 250 HP. The only reason you would want a bigger engine is if you want to accelerate faster or if you want to go up steep hills without losing speed. A small engine will still pull a large load up a hill, but to get the proper amount of torque may require the vehicle to be in a low gear, and this might cause a slowdown . Instead of being in top gear at 1500 rpm, you'll be in third gear pushing 4000 rpm to maintain speed. If third gear isn't enough, it might even need to be in second gear, so you'll be going up the hill maybe 40mph instead of 60mph. If you're hauling a huge boat around on a trip you make once a year, speed is probably not a concern.
 

Uppsala9496

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That was pretty damn funny, as are the arguments discussions that it created here.
The voices were a little annoying though.
 

herm0016

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towing cap for a silvarado is 4700 KG = 10300 lbs..... ( i checked my manual)
ranger ranges from 1500 to 5600 depending on engine, so you got close on this one.
dakota is up to 7200 lbs 3200 KG

tacoma is 3500lbs... good job.
 

jlee

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Sep 12, 2001
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towing cap for a silvarado is 4700 KG = 10300 lbs..... ( i checked my manual)
ranger ranges from 1500 to 5600 depending on engine, so you got close on this one.
dakota is up to 7200 lbs 3200 KG

tacoma is 3500lbs... good job.

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herm0016

Diamond Member
Feb 26, 2005
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oops... i did not see the max on that one. so the tacoma is 3500 to 6500lbs
 

MJinZ

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Hahaha...

Lotus Elise or Honda S2000, so you can take one kid at a time to the track and autocross together to bond.