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A Date... which will live... in infamy..

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EagleKeeper said:
From the Arizona:
348 survived.
Only 33 are still alive.

On a personal note, I no longer have any family members and inlaws that were in WW2.
Father (Europe, 44), Father in law, 2 Uncle in Law, Mother-in Law and a Grandfather in Law that fought in the Philippine campaign of 41-42 and 44-45 have all past away
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I hear that eaglekeeper. My aunt is the last of that generation in my family.
 
My grandfather served on a carrier in the Pacific. During a skirmish a kamakazi took out the whole med bay. He said it made for an interesting trip back to port with no medical personnel and dozens of wounded sailors.
 
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MUCH better:

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I'll be watching that today...as I do every December 7th.
I also have the Affleck Pearl Harbor, which I like for the special effects of the attack, but not the overall love story.
 
My one grandpa worked at Caterpillar, he was deemed important enough to keep him out of the war. My other is very tight lipped about his service in the Pacific. The only time I have ever heard him curse (he is a devout Catholic) was when MacArthur was featured on TV. My grandpa HATED that man, felt he caused a lot of deaths for no gain.
 
feralkid said:
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You Are A Moron.
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He's right though...even though it was a sneak attack, it was done using planes plainly marked as to their nationality...not a bunch of assholes using box cutters to hijack commercial airliners and crash them into public buildings...
There was no doubt in anyone's mind who was behind the Pearl Harbor attacks...
 
BoomerD said:
We were at the 60th anniversary. Pretty damned solemn occasion. There are getting to be fewer and fewer Pearl Harbor survivors...and even fewer Arizona survivors.

When we were out on the memorial itself, there were some little Asian kids (maybe 3-6 years old) running around the deck, laughing, yelling, having a good time. All of a sudden, one of them faceplanted into the deck...
My immediate thought...
"Yeah! One of the dead reached up and tripped her! Time for some payback!"
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That is terrible
 
BoomerD said:
He's right though...even though it was a sneak attack, it was done using planes plainly marked as to their nationality...not a bunch of assholes using box cutters to hijack commercial airliners and crash them into public buildings...
There was no doubt in anyone's mind who was behind the Pearl Harbor attacks...
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I suggest reading Seeds and Fruits of Infamy. The Japanese were pretty much forced into doing it. We should be grateful that they never even considered killing American civilians unlike what Truman did to both Americans and Japanese. That traitor killed more than 10 American POWs when he bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
 
Anarchist420 said:
I suggest reading Seeds and Fruits of Infamy. The Japanese were pretty much forced into doing it. We should be grateful that they never even considered killing American civilians unlike what Truman did to both Americans and Japanese. That traitor killed more than 10 American POWs when he bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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Take your bullshit to P&N. We don't need filth like you in OT.
 
Anarchist420 said:
I suggest reading Seeds and Fruits of Infamy. The Japanese were pretty much forced into doing it. We should be grateful that they never even considered killing American civilians unlike what Truman did to both Americans and Japanese. That traitor killed more than 10 American POWs when he bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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August 6, 1945. Enola Gay Day. One of my favorite holidays.

It's the day the USA got some payback for the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor.
 
BoomerD said:
August 6, 1945. Enola Gay Day. One of my favorite holidays.

It's the day the USA got some payback for the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor.
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even if it was necessary or the best option, it's not something that we should get enjoyment out of...
 
dougp said:
I'm going to Hawaii in a month for a wedding, and truth be told, the only thing I want to do is go to the Pearl Harbor Memorial.
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This lady I work with went there this past year with her family. Her dad is a former Marine and had that scheduled on their trip. She said she really enjoyed it and the history surrounding it.

RIP for all those that perished on this day.
 
BoomerD said:
He's right though...even though it was a sneak attack, it was done using planes plainly marked as to their nationality...not a bunch of assholes using box cutters to hijack commercial airliners and crash them into public buildings...
There was no doubt in anyone's mind who was behind the Pearl Harbor attacks...
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Thats exactly who I was thinking of, the Taliban.
 
BoomerD said:
August 6, 1945. Enola Gay Day. One of my favorite holidays.

It's the day the USA got some payback for the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor.
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sneak attack? what do you suggest they should have done, call ahead?

i'm not happy with what occurred either, but war is hell.

on both sides.
 
herrjimbo said:
sneak attack? what do you suggest they should have done, call ahead?

i'm not happy with what occurred either, but war is hell.

on both sides.
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Actually if things had gone as they had planned they would have delivered the declaration of war a minute or 2 before the start of the attack. Instead they had problems decoding the message from Tokyo and delivered it about an hour after the attack was under way. Sneak attacks during a war are expected, sneak attacks on a nation you are not at war with are not.
 
herrjimbo said:
sneak attack? what do you suggest they should have done, call ahead?

i'm not happy with what occurred either, but war is hell.

on both sides.
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They were planning to declare war and then attack, but the translation was too slow. The Japanese ambassador was caught by surprise. It was not cool to attack before declaring war and not in character for the empire at the time.
 
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