A Craigstlist tale: Chainsaw, Hard to start cold harder to start warm?

[nonameo]

Sad thing is, the guy will probably buy another chainsaw and do the same thing again.

 

[IHateMyJob2004]

Regarding your stalling issues.

That's common for any older 2 cycle engine. Surprised something new is giving heaches.

Toy with the idle and you might get things ironed out.

 

[Gillbot]

Regarding your stalling issues.

That's common for any older 2 cycle engine. Surprised something new is giving heaches.

Toy with the idle and you might get things ironed out.

Umm, it stalled because it was out of gas. There are no issues with it, it runs great!

 

[Jeff7]

I'm guessing that the guy left the choke on or something. The older McCulloch chainsaws are freaking awesome and high quality. After the original owner sold it to Black and Decker quality was the first thing to get dropped, and intentionally so. A lot of my family worked at their plant and knows the details.

Before B&D : After a flywheel broke they went through the process of x-raying every flywheel for cracks even though it only happened once.
After B&D : Replaced a steel part with a plastic part for the purpose of having it wear out in three years.

For some reason, planned obsolescence causes me to "rage" more than it probably should.

"We warrant this product for 1 year because advanced statistical analysis of typical customer usage patterns, coupled with advances in materials science means that it is almost certain to fail within 1 week beyond 1 year of service."
Gone are the days of long warranty periods, or of expecting thing to last a long time beyond the expiration of the warranty period.

Though I'd love if there was a good way of analyzing the costs to society from using stuff that is a bit more expensive and lasts a long time vs constantly re-buying cheap crap that breaks quickly.

 

[Gillbot]

My wife and I were just having this discussion today. People used to buy stuff with the expectation it would basically last forever, now everything is a throw away. Sad.

 

[Thump553]

So I'm putting a new chain on my saw today and I got to thinking some SOB on ATOT paid about the same for a saw and two chains as I paid for this chain. Then later I'm cleaning out a desk and find the receipt for the saw-reconditioned in 1989 for $300.

You got a great deal. Heck if the saw lasts one day it's probably cheaper than a rental.

 

[ManBearPig]

James your a lucky shit... ($30 chain saw just add gas/oil)...

Guess I should not tell you about the Stihl 28V Farm boss my brother in law gave me because it did not run...? (cleaned the little piece of tip cleaner tool that was broke off in the carb main jet & had a brand new bar and chain on it)...:biggrin:

Lucky! Pics or it didn't happen. (I just wanna see pics basically lol)

 

[Analog]

The other issue might have been the incorrect gas/oil dilution. My Stihl uses 50:1 but I know many other brands user other mixtures.

 

[iGas]

Awesome.

 

[qliveur]

I got a little Stihl several years ago for about the same amount invested.

It's nice to hear stuff like this.

 

[paulney]

Why do so many people need chainsaws? You live in zombie-infested areas? I use miter or circular saw every now and then, but chain? Maybe to cut up Christmas tree once a year, even if that (easily accomplished with a hand saw).

 

[cirrrocco]

Was my victory short lived?

Then my brain kicked in. Popped off the fuel cap, yep, don't see a level. Pour some gas/oil mix from my weedeater in and pull the cord. Fired right back up and off to work it goes.... WHEW!

I am mechanically very challenged. so what does that mean. What happens when you add the gas oil mix?. How does adding this help. or by 'dont see a level' you meant there was no more gas. Thanks

 

[Leros]

I am mechanically very challenged. so what does that mean. What happens when you add the gas oil mix?. How does adding this help. or by 'dont see a level' you meant there was no more gas. Thanks

On certain motors, you mix the gas and oil in the tank. He just means it was empty and needed more gas.

 

[Ancalagon44]

My wife and I were just having this discussion today. People used to buy stuff with the expectation it would basically last forever, now everything is a throw away. Sad.

Yeah I dont like that thinking. And its only done so that the corporation can get your business later on.

Admittedly, we consumers might be partially to blame, since we want the biggest bargains, so we buy the cheapest. To push costs down, corporations sacrifice quality and durability, and soon you have something that lasts a year. That being said, I dont think its only our fault. Even "premium" products are not made to last anymore. Look at your higher end luxury vehicles, Mercedes Benz and the like. Not made to last. Made to be replaced in 3 years.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

CL can be gold. Some recent great finds :

$20 BFG 8800GTS 512MB OC
$35 CM Stacker (original) w/Corsair 600CX
$15 HP NC6100 w/Cracked Screen (perfect, was looking for a headless lappy)

 

[iGas]

I am mechanically very challenged. so what does that mean. What happens when you add the gas oil mix?. How does adding this help. or by 'dont see a level' you meant there was no more gas. Thanks

2 stroke engine use gas oil mixture for fuel.

 

[Gillbot]

Lucky! Pics or it didn't happen. (I just wanna see pics basically lol)

If I get un-lazy today I may snap a pic or two of it.

The other issue might have been the incorrect gas/oil dilution. My Stihl uses 50:1 but I know many other brands user other mixtures.

I've never had one not run if the mix was off. I'm sure it can affect it but i've used various mixtures in all my 2 cycles and never had one "not run".

Yeah I dont like that thinking. And its only done so that the corporation can get your business later on.

Admittedly, we consumers might be partially to blame, since we want the biggest bargains, so we buy the cheapest. To push costs down, corporations sacrifice quality and durability, and soon you have something that lasts a year. That being said, I dont think its only our fault. Even "premium" products are not made to last anymore. Look at your higher end luxury vehicles, Mercedes Benz and the like. Not made to last. Made to be replaced in 3 years.

I agree, it's 100% our fault for wanting cheap and fast. Until we stop spending and let companies know that we will will vote with our $, nothing will change.

 

[Texashiker]

Why do so many people need chainsaws?

We have these things called "trees" that we use for firewood and bbq wood.

My mom and dad have a good sized pin oak tree that blew down on their property that needs to be cut up. The base of the tree is probably close to 30 inches across.

Then there is a limb that fell out of another pin oak tree, the base of that limb is probably 12 inches across.

You live in zombie-infested areas?

Zombies? I am waiting for research scientist to open a portal to hell and demons to invade earth.

 

[Gillbot]

We have these things called "trees" that we use for firewood and bbq wood.

My mom and dad have a good sized pin oak tree that blew down on their property that needs to be cut up. The base of the tree is probably close to 30 inches across.




Zombies? I am waiting for research scientist to open a portal to hell and demons to invade the earth.

Same thing here. The previous owner of our property decided it would be a good idea to cram a BUNCH of pine trees in a row between my and the neighbors houses and the wind is slowly knocking them over. I decided to cut them down before one decides to fall onto one of our houses.

Our garage got spared by the last one to fall. It fell into the oak tree which stopped it just short of smashing into our garage. I've been cutting them down and cutting them into log sized chunks and burning it all up in my fire pit.

My little 10" electric did quite well, but having the gas one just makes it 1000x easier to get out in the back of the yard and de-limb the trees and chop them up.

 

[ManBearPig]

We would have had to spend thousands of dollars if we didnt buy our Stihl. We got it on sale for like $170-180 iirc, retail was $225-250...I wouldve gladly paid more for it. We use it more than we planned, and even if we didn't, it still paid for itself(X20) in that one instance.

 

[sdifox]

Why do so many people need chainsaws? You live in zombie-infested areas? I use miter or circular saw every now and then, but chain? Maybe to cut up Christmas tree once a year, even if that (easily accomplished with a hand saw).

I have like a dozen trees on my property. Can't cut them down unless there is health and safety concerns.

 

[Gillbot]

Apparently in ATOT land, everyone must live in the city in an apartment or condo?

 

[Gillbot]

So this saw is still running great and cutting away! Man, I need to look on my local craigslist more I guess..

 

[Bignate603]

Why do so many people need chainsaws? You live in zombie-infested areas? I use miter or circular saw every now and then, but chain? Maybe to cut up Christmas tree once a year, even if that (easily accomplished with a hand saw).

Some people have a decent amount of trees on their property. It makes it much easier to take down dead trees or cut up fallen branches.

 

[Gillbot]

Some people have a decent amount of trees on their property. It makes it much easier to take down dead trees or cut up fallen branches.

and prune up current trees