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A commentary by David Sirota on the wealthy paying a surtax for UHC
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The successful people with lots of money (the Walton family) need the low-wage employees at their stores to make their fortunes. It's a mutually beneficial situation.
Ask the Walton family if they'd rather see a small tax increase on their income, or work the registers at their Super Centers for 50 hours/week...I think I know what their answer will be.
I'm still yet to see anything out of your mouth that's not partisan hackary.
Obama gained support on the promise of tax cuts and responsible gov't spending. Maybe *you* voted for health care reform, most voted Obama because they didn't approve of Sarah Palin's wardrobe costs :Q
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Did you manage to type that with a straight face? If so, hats off to you, sir.
Im loving all the democratic party in fighting. This assures UHC wont be passed this year or possibly ever.
Craig, those that article attacks are the people that give the Dems a majority.
Moderates(who could fit the Land Rover Democrat lable) and Blue Dogs make up a significant portion of the Democrats in Congress. The Blue Dogs alone are 54 strong. Whith out them your party couldnt do shit.
Craig, those that article attacks are the people that give the Dems a majority.
Moderates(who could fit the Land Rover Democrat lable) and Blue Dogs make up a significant portion of the Democrats in Congress. The Blue Dogs alone are 54 strong. Whith out them your party couldnt do shit.
HEALTHCARE REFORM is needed HEALTH INSURANCE REFORM isnt.
The govt isnt trying to fix the problem. Its trying to put a costly govt paid for bandaid on it.
I dont support any current bill in the House or Senate. They have long term financial burdens that the US cannot afford. Even if they are deficit neutral over 10 years as Obama says the will, which is unlikely, they will ballon HUGELY over the next two decades after the first 10 years. And as for alleged cost savings of the current plans there likely wont be any. And if there is it would be extremely small.
Since the current plan in the House couldnt be railroaded through, its likely not to pass at all. They will have to come up with something else. It wont be able to last through a month of intense scrutiny.
Bottom line is, they need to find a way to lower healthcare costs, thats the real problem. UHC doesnt do that. Atleast not in the current House form or any Democrat plan.
The forum really is amazing. Jpeyton claims that the people voted Democrats in specifically for health-care reform, that it is a mandate, it must be done.
That was the exact same logic used when Bush kept continuing with his war on terror, it was a mandate from the voters.
Partisan hackary at it's finest.
The Democrats took power for several reasons - (1) the public was growing more tired of the war in Iraq, (2) Republicans were not fiscally conservative nor held up to their platform of morality, and (3) the housing and financial systems collapsed while a Republican was President.
The shifting of power in government had little to do with the public wanting Obama take over the health-care industry.
And add on the true basis of this whole thread, that taxing "the rich" really is sufficient to cover the costs of UHC and provide every American with high quality care :roll: This may work perfectly inside college textbooks and economic theories, though who believes it will translate so eloquently in the real world?
Sure I wish Bill Gates would give me just a few of his millions, but the world just does not work that way 😀
That was the exact same logic used when Bush kept continuing with his war on terror, it was a mandate from the voters.
Partisan hackary at it's finest.
The Democrats took power for several reasons - (1) the public was growing more tired of the war in Iraq, (2) Republicans were not fiscally conservative nor held up to their platform of morality, and (3) the housing and financial systems collapsed while a Republican was President.
The shifting of power in government had little to do with the public wanting Obama take over the health-care industry.
And add on the true basis of this whole thread, that taxing "the rich" really is sufficient to cover the costs of UHC and provide every American with high quality care :roll: This may work perfectly inside college textbooks and economic theories, though who believes it will translate so eloquently in the real world?
Sure I wish Bill Gates would give me just a few of his millions, but the world just does not work that way 😀
You are fucking moron that doesnt seem to give a shit about the long term numbers. Right now, the US is on a 30-40 year crash course to insolvency. Throw in the democratic plans for UHC and thats shortened to ~25 years.
There are now savings that will be realized from the House Plan. Just more spending, that will ballon after the first ten years.
All this so called reform is doing is pushing the expense onto the Govt.
The current bill in the House does JACK SHIT to lower costs by any signigicant amount.
Which is why Im glad the Dems are infighting. Transparency is FINALY able to happen in the House. This bill WONT hold up over the next month under transparency and scrutiny.
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