wow, he laughed himself to death and only 22, totally unreal. not possible unless you're 60 at least
shortylickens
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We had that at my work. A guy who was 29 and practiced yoga, karate. Grew his own vegetables. Went to sleep one night and never woke up.
Had such a rare heart condition that it went unoticed until his autopsy.
Had such a rare heart condition that it went unoticed until his autopsy.
Steeplerot
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Found out a little more information today - heard the first hand story.
The 5 guys were out for a walk. On the way back, Mike decides he is going to jog back. An older, fat guy tells him "don't collapse from a heart attack" as a joke, since this kid is young, lean, athletic. He laughs and takes off.
They see him up off in the distance stop, turn to his side, drop to his knees, then drop to the trail. They think he is playing a joke on him. They walk up to him, maybe taking 2-3 minutes. They still think he is kidding when they get to him. Then they see he is kind of shuddering, so someone rolls him over. His face is cyanotic and he is "gurgling" so they call 911 on a cell phone.
The ambulance gets there, but can't figure out how to get past a little chain that keeps cars off the trail. The guy trys to get them to ram the chain - they won't do it. Finally they get lock cutters and cut the chain.
By the time the paramedics get to him, they've been giving him rescue breathing. His heart is arythmic (sp). When they give him the first hit with a defib, he goes flat line. He never came back from that.
Initial autopsy showed an enlarged heart. At his visitation there I stood 2 hours 15 minutes in line. The line was longer when I left. Family was so typical "folks next door", good people.
As far as the bickering in this thread, well I would have been surprised if there wasn't any
Take this tragedy any way you want, be it to bolster your faith in god or lack thereof. I know I'm sick of seeing guys I know named Mike dying that are under 35 - time for some old farts named Mike to die.
The old guy is a wreck from the bizarre irony of his joke. Everyone feels guilty because they didn't run to him. I would have done the same thing, I hope they can come to that same realization that there is nothing they could have done.
The 5 guys were out for a walk. On the way back, Mike decides he is going to jog back. An older, fat guy tells him "don't collapse from a heart attack" as a joke, since this kid is young, lean, athletic. He laughs and takes off.
They see him up off in the distance stop, turn to his side, drop to his knees, then drop to the trail. They think he is playing a joke on him. They walk up to him, maybe taking 2-3 minutes. They still think he is kidding when they get to him. Then they see he is kind of shuddering, so someone rolls him over. His face is cyanotic and he is "gurgling" so they call 911 on a cell phone.
The ambulance gets there, but can't figure out how to get past a little chain that keeps cars off the trail. The guy trys to get them to ram the chain - they won't do it. Finally they get lock cutters and cut the chain.
By the time the paramedics get to him, they've been giving him rescue breathing. His heart is arythmic (sp). When they give him the first hit with a defib, he goes flat line. He never came back from that.
Initial autopsy showed an enlarged heart. At his visitation there I stood 2 hours 15 minutes in line. The line was longer when I left. Family was so typical "folks next door", good people.
As far as the bickering in this thread, well I would have been surprised if there wasn't any
Take this tragedy any way you want, be it to bolster your faith in god or lack thereof. I know I'm sick of seeing guys I know named Mike dying that are under 35 - time for some old farts named Mike to die. The old guy is a wreck from the bizarre irony of his joke. Everyone feels guilty because they didn't run to him. I would have done the same thing, I hope they can come to that same realization that there is nothing they could have done.
Hey, who you calling an old fart? (DOB: 09/18/62)
Mike (Gaard)
<---- playing football @ 4:00 with a bunch of 20-somethings today
Originally posted by: alchemize
Found out a little more information today - heard the first hand story.
The 5 guys were out for a walk. On the way back, Mike decides he is going to jog back. An older, fat guy tells him "don't collapse from a heart attack" as a joke, since this kid is young, lean, athletic. He laughs and takes off.
They see him up off in the distance stop, turn to his side, drop to his knees, then drop to the trail. They think he is playing a joke on him. They walk up to him, maybe taking 2-3 minutes. They still think he is kidding when they get to him. Then they see he is kind of shuddering, so someone rolls him over. His face is cyanotic and he is "gurgling" so they call 911 on a cell phone.
The ambulance gets there, but can't figure out how to get past a little chain that keeps cars off the trail. The guy trys to get them to ram the chain - they won't do it. Finally they get lock cutters and cut the chain.
By the time the paramedics get to him, they've been giving him rescue breathing. His heart is arythmic (sp). When they give him the first hit with a defib, he goes flat line. He never came back from that.
Initial autopsy showed an enlarged heart. At his visitation there I stood 2 hours 15 minutes in line. The line was longer when I left. Family was so typical "folks next door", good people.
As far as the bickering in this thread, well I would have been surprised if there wasn't any
The old guy is a wreck from the bizarre irony of his joke. Everyone feels guilty because they didn't run to him. I would have done the same thing, I hope they can come to that same realization that there is nothing they could have done.
Wow, thanks for the update Alchy.
I hope the guys are able to come to grips with what happened, they did what they could've when they did get to him. He did go off by himself.
I blame the lousy No Health Care system of this Country.
We used to encourage full yearly screenings as a PM measure.
Sadly that is no longer the case.
With the U.S. it is just about getting the most dollars ahead of the importance of life.
OK OK Gaard and Red Dawn, I don't want to see anyone named Mike in the 35-75 range kicking the bucket either
Interesting google turnup:
Interesting google turnup:
:|
Damn...you'd think someone's life would be worth more than a chain and scratch on the bumper.
A friend of mine died a few years back in a similar way. He was 16 years old, went to sleep one night and never woke up. His mother found him the next morning laying in his bed, cold and dead. Apparently it was also from an undiagnosed heart defect.
Just one of the crappy parts of life, it can end at any time. At least your co-worker lived to be 22, and have all the experiences that entails.
Just one of the crappy parts of life, it can end at any time. At least your co-worker lived to be 22, and have all the experiences that entails.
I am a Mormon and while doing some research on the 11th President of the Church Harold B. Lee I came accross this tale. He did not do anything that fantastic in life other than being the President of the Mormon Church. However, I found this prose that was written about his grandmother. His father was the 12th child of a mother who had tried to give birth 11 times previously and failed each time in still birth and his father's birth killed his grandmother in childbirth. His grandmother lived on the outskirts of what was known as the Territory of Utah.
"I speak of Margaret's Bravery.
Eleven times she placed
Her life upon the block
and offered it that
Children might be born.
No sterile chamber
Where the doctor waits,
The Anesthetic cone
And nurse in readiness
could be her lot.
"The cabin walls absorbed
The agonizing cries,
With death close by.
He did not claim her life.
Instead he took each child--
Each little one to heaven--
All Eleven.
Then Came the twelfth.
"For the light burned
Dim, then flickered low,
And out--
But she had filled her life, and
Given all that she could give.
Her mission was performed;
A son was born,
The only child to live.
"He was named his father's
name--
Samuel Lee
Every time I read this I get a sense of
awe at how our pioneer ancestors manged
to scrape out a living in this world on the
American Frontier.
As stories of the frontier go this particular
tale makes one wonder what it would be like
to have to try 12 times just to bring one
life into the world.
I just spent the weekend in Kansas City, KS visiting my
father in the hospital. He had suffered a fall down a few
steps when he lost his balance and fell backwards. He was
banged up pretty bad but it looks like he might make it.
They found out he had parkinsons disease which is a kind
of a fluke of bad luck I guess.
I hope this may have helped a little. Life sometimes does
not always seem fair.
"I speak of Margaret's Bravery.
Eleven times she placed
Her life upon the block
and offered it that
Children might be born.
No sterile chamber
Where the doctor waits,
The Anesthetic cone
And nurse in readiness
could be her lot.
"The cabin walls absorbed
The agonizing cries,
With death close by.
He did not claim her life.
Instead he took each child--
Each little one to heaven--
All Eleven.
Then Came the twelfth.
"For the light burned
Dim, then flickered low,
And out--
But she had filled her life, and
Given all that she could give.
Her mission was performed;
A son was born,
The only child to live.
"He was named his father's
name--
Samuel Lee
Every time I read this I get a sense of
awe at how our pioneer ancestors manged
to scrape out a living in this world on the
American Frontier.
As stories of the frontier go this particular
tale makes one wonder what it would be like
to have to try 12 times just to bring one
life into the world.
I just spent the weekend in Kansas City, KS visiting my
father in the hospital. He had suffered a fall down a few
steps when he lost his balance and fell backwards. He was
banged up pretty bad but it looks like he might make it.
They found out he had parkinsons disease which is a kind
of a fluke of bad luck I guess.
I hope this may have helped a little. Life sometimes does
not always seem fair.
Once a guy died at my friends workplace. Apprently he was hit by a flying bolt which came off a machine. It hit him in the head, died on the spot. These things are tragic.
Never know, might have totaled the rad or something. If the van don't run, not getting to the hospital any faster.
There might be a lawsuit there against whomever runs the property. Might be a "due dilligence" concern not prohibit reasonable access to emergency vehicles, especially if the area is open to the public and used for jogging, etc. *Shivers* God, thank you for depriving me of the work ethic needed to become a lawyer. Thinking like that comes a bit too easily to me.
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