A+ Certification

Yoshikawa

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Is anyone here A+ Certified? What jobs would it make easier to get? I want to be certified, but am unsure on how to get it. Where would I take the test, and how would I prepare for it? Any books I should get from the library? Any other resources?
 

guyver01

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What jobs would it make easier to get? PC Support jobs
How do you get certified? Take the A+ exam
Where do you take it? Sylvan Prometric Testing sites (google it)
How do you prepare for it? Take an A+ class... read an A+ cert book.
What books should you get? A+ cert books?
 

Yoshikawa

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Any books that are recommended? I'd rather not take a class since I've no money and high school is already making me struggle
 

RESmonkey

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Haha Guvyer, you are the ultimate poster.


Yoshikawa, go to a library and get a dummies book on A+.
 

guyver01

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Haha Guvyer, you are the ultimate poster.

Well.. i'm serious..

If you're a PC tech, you should at least be able to answer competently why Excel 2003 has a max row value of 65,536 rows.

The answer to this isn't even given in an A+ class.. it's given in basic computers and basic math(think max int)
 

0roo0roo

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a+ is a bit of a joke anyways since it doesn't test trouble shooting/logic skills, just rote memorization of hardware trivia.
its the gross minimum standard
 

Yoshikawa

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ok well apparently i was never taught basic math since i dont know why the max number of rows in excel is 65,536. 2^16 is 65,536 but i still dont know *why* it's the max. may you please give me a competent answer?

and what would I do after A+? not saying that I'll get it because guyver is implying that i don't have brains, but what comes after A+ anyway?
 

guyver01

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i still dont know *why* it's the max. may you please give me a competent answer?

65,536 is the largest possible integer in 16bit storage.
Excel 2003 is a 16bit program.

Excel 2007 and higher is 32bit, but the max rows is 1,048,576.
 

yhelothar

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65,536 is the largest possible integer in 16bit storage.
Excel 2003 is a 16bit program.

Excel 2007 and higher is 32bit, but the max rows is 1,048,576.

Touche on the HS comment, but seriously, he's looking for A+ basic PC troubleshooting at geeksquad doing formats and ram installs, not computer programming.
 

guyver01

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Touche on the HS comment, but seriously, he's looking for A+ basic PC troubleshooting at geeksquad doing formats and ram installs, not computer programming.

Guess you've never gotten a troubleticket saying "my excel is broken.. i cant add more than 65,536 rows of data"
... and yes.. i have...
from Accounting department employees.
 

yhelothar

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Guess you've never gotten a troubleticket saying "my excel is broken.. i cant add more than 65,536 rows of data"
... and yes.. i have...
from Accounting department employees.

Yeah I can see how an average tech support session with guyver would go.

Ditsy blonde accountant: hey my excel is broken, it can't add more than 65,536 rows of data.

guyver w/ smug look on face: yes, that's because excel 2003 runs on a 16-bit integer coding, meaning in binary, it could only hold up to 2^16 values, or 66536, Excel 2007 and higher is 32bit, and supports max rows of 1,048,576.

Ditsy blonde accountant: wow amazing you have all those numbers on top of your head.


Honestly, mad props for your knowledge. I'd love to call tech support and have someone really knowledgeable help me out and explain the stuff to me so I could be able to deal with issues more aptly on my own next time. But for A+? Entry level tech support? Dunno man.
 
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guyver01

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Yeah I can see how an average tech support session with guyver would go.

nope.. more like:

User: i'm pasting about 70k lines of data into an excel sheet and it's stopping at 65,536 rows.
Me: what version of excel are you using?
user: excel 2k3.
me: ok.. there's a built in limitation to excel of 65,536 rows. to enter more, you need excel 2k7. please have your VP request a software upgrade for you.
user: ok thanks!
 

chusteczka

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There comes a time when a person discovers how to learn material on their own without being taught the material by someone else. This is typically a skill learned by students in college as a result of the different teaching methods used between high school and college. The ability for someone to learn material on their own is highly necessary for an individual's academic success.

Sometimes, this lesson is learned by high school students when they become interested in a subject; such as computers. This seems to be Yoshikawa's time to learn this lesson of how to gain knowledge of computers on his own.

Yoshikawa, take an inventory of the resources available to you and determine what best fits your needs. You can disassemble/assemble a computer. Someone can show you how to disassemble/assemble a computer. There are websites that can teach how to assemble computers as well as the material for the A+ exam. Maybe there is a computer related course at your school. Your local library will have useful books. Your community college may have night classes that may also help.

Develop an interest to motivate yourself to read as much as you can. What you wish to read about will be determined by your interests.
 

Sea Moose

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Uncle Guyver!

I need tech support!


I press the j key and a j appears on the screen. Is that normal?
 

SandEagle

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Yeah I can see how an average tech support session with guyver would go.

Ditsy blonde accountant: hey my excel is broken, it can't add more than 65,536 rows of data.

guyver w/ smug look on face: yes, that's because excel 2003 runs on a 16-bit integer coding, meaning in binary, it could only hold up to 2^16 values, or 66536, Excel 2007 and higher is 32bit, and supports max rows of 1,048,576.

Ditsy blonde accountant: wow amazing you have all those numbers on top of your head.


Honestly, mad props for your knowledge. I'd love to call tech support and have someone really knowledgeable help me out and explain the stuff to me so I could be able to deal with issues more aptly on my own next time. But for A+? Entry level tech support? Dunno man.

what knowledge? he probably just googled that.....OP are u asian? i am disappoint...u should naturally be good at math


btw, i've been A+ certified for over 10 yrs now......wasn't bad, but then again i did take a course and wasnt a complete dumbass in HS
 

Elbryn

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A+ isnt that difficult. go to the website, do some research on what requirements you need to pass, go to the library, reserve some books, schedule the exam so you have a target date to set your deadlines, study, take practice tests, study some more on the stuff you dont know as well, take more practice tests, go take the test.

whether its worth it, why not. the cert itself isnt worth that much but if your goal is to get into IT support then why not arm yourself with anything that might help differentiate you from the other applicants? That sort of thing gets you through the HR prescan. The rest will come from how you present yourself in the interviews. while you're at it, complete server+ and network+ and if your see yourself as a desktop junkie go get mcp windows 2007.
 

yhelothar

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what knowledge? he probably just googled that.....OP are u asian? i am disappoint...u should naturally be good at math


btw, i've been A+ certified for over 10 yrs now......wasn't bad, but then again i did take a course and wasnt a complete dumbass in HS

Where did you get that I wasn't? :sneaky:
 

steppinthrax

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A+ really won't get you a job today. I mean back in the day you had more offerings, maybe at COMPusa, but nowadays any fool can pull apart a PC and replace componenets. It's not that hard. The MC certifications (Microsoft) are probably more worth wild.