A case for religion, and against AA.

[norseamd]

...when did that happen?

do i look like some atheist historian?

 

[sandorski]

do i look like some atheist historian?

You seem to know a lot about it, I have never heard of such a thing. So provide some details please.

 

[sandorski]

I love it when people refuse to open their eyes...

irony

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Buncha noobs, all of you.

Listen -- atheism isn't a religion for the same reasons that theism isn't a religion. They are both attributes of particular worldviews, but they are not worldviews unto themselves. Christianity is a theistic religion. Islam is a theistic religion. Mahayana Buddhism is an atheistic religion.

Anyone that tries to treat atheism as an ideological monolith is a fucking idiot, plain and simple.

HTH

The bolded is not the most appropriate language for the Discussion Club.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[norseamd]

Buncha noobs, all of you. Listen -- atheism isn't a religion for the same reasons that theism isn't a religion. They are both attributes of particular worldviews, but they are not worldviews unto themselves. Christianity is a theistic religion. Islam is a theistic religion. Mahayana Buddhism is an atheistic religion. Anyone that tries to treat atheism as an ideological monolith is a fucking idiot, plain and simple. HTH

is anonymous not an organization and the government is an organization?

and yes concerning anonymous there are some thoughts but for all intents and purposes of this question they are irrelevent

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

is anonymous not an organization and the government is an organization?

and yes concerning anonymous there are some thoughts but for all intents and purposes of this question they are irrelevent

Put down the pipe.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Put down the pipe.

you waltz in here as if you are some freakin authority.......

that`s the best you can do???

 

[norseamd]

Put down the pipe.

 

[sandorski]

Going to answer my question?

 

[norseamd]

Going to answer my question?

so my question above is in relation to this topic

anyways if we take away that idea do you have problems with the rest of my quote

 

[sandorski]

so my question above is in relation to this topic

anyways if we take away that idea do you have problems with the rest of my quote

Not as much as what I am asking about, but you're evading the question.

 

[norseamd]

Buncha noobs, all of you.

Listen -- atheism isn't a religion for the same reasons that theism isn't a religion. They are both attributes of particular worldviews, but they are not worldviews unto themselves. Christianity is a theistic religion. Islam is a theistic religion. Mahayana Buddhism is an atheistic religion.

Anyone that tries to treat atheism as an ideological monolith is a fucking idiot, plain and simple.

HTH

not all atheists are religious nor is atheism defined by this pseudo-religion of atheism

your point is correct and i agree with you

however i was talking about some other interrelated but distinct topic

 

[norseamd]

Not as much as what I am asking about, but you're evading the question.

it was thought that was considered in relation with the rest of my quote

i have been trying to think of the right words to use for what i am thinking about in some of these posts

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

you waltz in here as if you are some freakin authority.......

No, I don't waltz. I salsa.

And it isn't a matter of authority. It's a matter of fact.

that`s the best you can do???

Being correct is all that is required.

 

[justoh]

so my question above is in relation to this topic

anyways if we take away that idea do you have problems with the rest of my quote

Have you ever considered using punctuation?

 

[norseamd]

Have you ever considered using punctuation?

?!

 

[justoh]

Thanks

 

[jhbball]

I love it when people refuse to open their eyes...

I mean, your "God lowered my friend's tax bill" miracle story was pretty convincing. But not convincing enough.

 

[JEDIYoda]

I mean, your "God lowered my friend's tax bill" miracle story was pretty convincing. But not convincing enough.

No one will ever convince some people....regardless how many working for the IRS were to come forward and say this never ever happens given my friends exact circumstances.....why? Because you would say -- supposedly it did happen thus it can happen.....

So sorry that you think you can explain this way when even people at the top of the food chain who work for the IRS cannot explain what happened... other than it did happen....so believe what you will and I will believe what I will!!

 

[Phanuel]

You seem to know a lot about it, I have never heard of such a thing. So provide some details please.

I didn't know we had a book of our "beliefs". I'm pretty sure our only real belief is that there is no, and never was any deity(ies) looking over us at any time during our past through to the present.

What else do we "believe" in?

 

[JEDIYoda]

I didn't know we had a book of our "beliefs". I'm pretty sure our only real belief is that there is no, and never was any deity(ies) looking over us at any time during our past through to the present.

What else do we "believe" in?

You don`t need to have a book to be considered a religion....
For example...Buddhist have no Bible but they do have books of teachings...

The same way most Atheists embrace scientific journals and books written by scientists and others who agree with there belief system...

 

[norseamd]

You don`t need to have a book to be considered a religion....
For example...Buddhist have no Bible but they do have books of teachings...

The same way most Atheists embrace scientific journals and books written by scientists and others who agree with there belief system...

exactly

 

[sandorski]

exactly

Exactly what?

 

[norseamd]

Exactly what?

learn to read

You don`t need to have a book to be considered a religion....
For example...Buddhist have no Bible but they do have books of teachings...

The same way most Atheists embrace scientific journals and books written by scientists and others who agree with there belief system...

 

[sandorski]

learn to read

You don`t need to have a book to be considered a religion....
For example...Buddhist have no Bible but they do have books of teachings...

The same way most Atheists embrace scientific journals and books written by scientists and others who agree with there belief system...

Not all Atheists hold science in high regard. It's moot though, why is having respect to our best Knowledge a bad thing? How is it a Religious thing? I also like to add, are you going to implicate Mathematics into my Atheism as well?