A case for religion, and against AA.

[JEDIYoda]

1. Branch Davidians.

Now you go.

personally I would be ashamed that you tried to answer a question that was asked of me....with what you posted.....again where are the thousands???

I asked Sandorski to answer the question and provide proof that there are thousands. You provided what maybe at best a few hundred examples of people in one group....

Sandorski can do better than that....

 

[JEDIYoda]

1. Branch Davidians.

Now you go.

That is only one group out of the thousands that Sandoski said existed......

 

[sandorski]

That is only one group out of the thousands that Sandoski said existed......

Sprinkle or Submerge?

 

[jackstar7]

personally I would be ashamed that you tried to answer a question that was asked of me....with what you posted.....again where are the thousands???

I asked Sandorski to answer the question and provide proof that there are thousands. You provided what maybe at best a few hundred examples of people in one group....

Sandorski can do better than that....

Just admit that you have no desire to have this discussion. Because this childish attitude implies just that. But not just saying it is pathetic.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Just admit that you have no desire to have this discussion. Because this childish attitude implies just that. But not just saying it is pathetic.

Childish attitude?? You answer my one question by posting a list of the 100o`s of groups that disagree with me and we can talk...until then I think your the one dodging this conversation.....

 

[jackstar7]

Childish attitude?? You answer my one question by posting a list of the 100o`s of groups that disagree with me and we can talk...until then I think your the one dodging this conversation.....

To what end? If anyone gives you that list... then what happens? You start to participate again?

We'll keep the ball, but you can go home, kid.

 

[sandorski]

Childish attitude?? You answer my one question by posting a list of the 100o`s of groups that disagree with me and we can talk...until then I think your the one dodging this conversation.....

Should women cover their head in Church or not?

 

[JEDIYoda]

To what end? If anyone gives you that list... then what happens? You start to participate again?

We'll keep the ball, but you can go home, kid.

To what end?? Your the one who tried to be cute.....

I don`t think you understand how this works....since you cannot back up what you posted...I have no more to say to you...thus saving you from the old foot in mouth disease....

 

[JD50]

To what end?? Your the one who tried to be cute.....

I don`t think you understand how this works....since you cannot back up what you posted...I have no more to say to you...thus saving you from the old foot in mouth disease....

Are you denying that there are many, many different groups of Christians that interpret the bible differently?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Should women cover their head in Church or not?

The problem with all your questions is that they are just questions with no real understanding of the scriptures....of Grace...Law...Faith...etc according to what people consider to be God`s word and others do not......so why go there?

The Old Testament an The New Testament.......Law vs Grace so to speak...can they over lap....not for me to debate or argue with on a forum that is 90% Atheist.....


Ateism is evolving into a religion...fancy that....

 

[JEDIYoda]

Are you denying that there are many, many different groups of Christians that interpret the bible differently?

That's not what was said...now you are trying to redefine his original question.......

I called him on it.....

To you I will say there are many Atheists who believe differently...

Take that as you will.....that is the way life is.......

How we deal with our differences is really what counts....

 

[Retro Rob]

Ateism is evolving into a religion...fancy that....

Obviously, the last ones to realize this are atheists themselves.

 

[norseamd]

Obviously, the last ones to realize this are atheists themselves.

as spiritual agnostict i made that point a long time ago

 

[norseamd]

skeptism is like some sort of sub religion

 

[jackstar7]

To what end?? Your the one who tried to be cute.....

I don`t think you understand how this works....since you cannot back up what you posted...I have no more to say to you...thus saving you from the old foot in mouth disease....

What I posted? Are you confused?

Oh boy. You backed up what I posted. You acted like a child.

 

[jackstar7]

Ateism is evolving into a religion...fancy that....

Now show your work.

Or

Understand that all that you're wailing about others' behavior applies to you.

 

[sandorski]

The problem with all your questions is that they are just questions with no real understanding of the scriptures....of Grace...Law...Faith...etc according to what people consider to be God`s word and others do not......so why go there?

The Old Testament an The New Testament.......Law vs Grace so to speak...can they over lap....not for me to debate or argue with on a forum that is 90% Atheist.....


Ateism is evolving into a religion...fancy that....

Nah, the real problem with my questions are that no matter what position you take millions of Christians will disagree with you. It doesn't take "understanding" of the scriptures to see the reality in front of my face.

 

[Retro Rob]

skeptism is like some sort of sub religion

NVM

 

[JD50]

That's not what was said...now you are trying to redefine his original question.......

I called him on it.....

To you I will say there are many Atheists who believe differently...

Take that as you will.....that is the way life is.......

How we deal with our differences is really what counts....

No I am not. I believe at one point you said that English isn't your first language. Maybe that's the problem here.

 

[Retro Rob]

skeptism is like some sort of sub religion

I tend to see it more like this:

Atheist Denominations

Secular Humanism
Skeptics Society
Atheist Alliance International


Christian Denominations

Catholics
Protestants
Southern Baptist

 

[JEDIYoda]

No I am not. I believe at one point you said that English isn't your first language. Maybe that's the problem here.

perhaps that is the only response that you have.....umm..ok!

 

[JEDIYoda]

Nah, the real problem with my questions are that no matter what position you take millions of Christians will disagree with you. It doesn't take "understanding" of the scriptures to see the reality in front of my face.

I know the truth will hurt you but so be it -- the real problem with your questions are that no matter what position you take millions of Christians agree with me. It takes an "understanding" of the scriptures to see the reality in front your face!!

If you don`t understand you have a messed up reality!!

 

[JD50]

I know the truth will hurt you but so be it -- the real problem with your questions are that no matter what position you take millions of Christians agree with me. It takes an "understanding" of the scriptures to see the reality in front your face!!

If you don`t understand you have a messed up reality!!

So do the millions of Christians that disagree with you just not understand scripture?

 

[alzan]

I tend to see it more like this:

Atheist Denominations

Secular Humanism
Skeptics Society
Atheist Alliance International

And what are the set of practices, rites and rituals of these "denominations?

Who is/are the deity or deities of these denominations?

Who are the clergy of these denominations?

What are the scriptures of these denominations?

What are the holy places of these denominations?


All of these questions and many others define a religion.

What one thinks or tends to think what constitutes or defines a religion is clouded by one's frame of reference;
biases, prejudices and the way our brains are hard-wired to work cloud our perception of reality and fact.

Just as theistic scientists must put their personal beliefs and worldview aside in order to properly do their research and work, so then must we all do likewise in order to better communicate and work though life's issues.

 

[JEDIYoda]

And what are the set of practices, rites and rituals of these "denominations?

Who is/are the deity or deities of these denominations? <----- your kidding right.....

Who are the clergy of these denominations?<----- not all religions have clergy....there are spokepeople for Atheism...anybody you would link to on youtube as a rebuttal....Sam Harris...Michael Newdom...etc

What are the scriptures of these denominations?<---- scientific books as well as documents as well as research..need I go on??/

What are the holy places of these denominations? <----- a holy place can be any where you deem it to be....any place atheist hang out can be considered a holy place...lolol

All of these questions and many others define a religion.

Your kidding right....who are the spokespeople for the atheist movement....etc...etc.....sure sounds like a religion to me.....