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SphinxnihpS

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I guess most of you have never worked in a business with legal requirements to backup critical data. I can assure you that a backup to the "cloud" is not part of their backup strategy, offsite backup on tapes in a vault most definitely is. This is for business use, NOT home users. But hey, if you believe in it you can rewrite all the best practices that have been used by major financial institutions for the last 25 year or so and start selling a cloud solution, let me how it goes if you try to sell it to the CTO of JP Morgan :)

Actually, I do. I exceed all the data protection statutes which apply to me or most business, and all small businesses. Online backup is just part of a solution. It just happens to be the part that replaces tapes.

To completely erase all of my data would require RAID drive failure and hotswap rebuild failure or RAID stripe failure + NAS failure + External (these are in a fire enclsure in a basement, surrounded by concrtete walls under stairs) drive failure + Carbonite failure all at once. So I think I'll have bigger problems when we get EMPed in a thermonuclear combat situation.
 

SphinxnihpS

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offsite backups in a secure location is a proven backup strategy used by all major corporations, the cloud isnt. Amazon AWS has problem right now because their storage went fubar, good luck if your one and only backup is on one of their servers and you need that critical backup RIGHT NOW. The whole cloud thing is largely best effort for now,no SLA. Amazon is telling its customers right now, we are doing our best but we can not guarantee anything. Good luck if your data in in their affected datacenters.

ps: the Amazon problem is already since Thursday, most has been resolved but there are still some issues for some customers

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2383980,00.asp

I know all about it. It's still safer. All the companies will move to it. Amazon is not the only cloud, and all a "cloud" is is a bunch of servers and/or data centers, which is far better than a bunch of tapes that cost a fortune to keep up with. If you're a HUGE company, you're going to have your own dedicated line to custom remote backup anyway. You think IBM is fucking around with tapes?!?! Don't be absurd.
 

ShawnD1

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I guess most of you have never worked in a business with legal requirements to backup critical data. I can assure you that a backup to the "cloud" is not part of their backup strategy, offsite backup on tapes in a vault most definitely is.
Backup at my work is to a server farm in New Jersey. All of the locations in Canada and USA keep backups on the NJ server.
 

freegeeks

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I know all about it. It's still safer. All the companies will move to it. Amazon is not the only cloud, and all a "cloud" is is a bunch of servers and/or data centers, which is far better than a bunch of tapes that cost a fortune to keep up with. If you're a HUGE company, you're going to have your own dedicated line to custom remote backup anyway. You think IBM is fucking around with tapes?!?! Don't be absurd.

you don't know crap honestly

yeah, tape systems must be very outdated, that's why IBM is one of the big boys in the storage industry when it comes to tape backup systems

http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/storage/tape/

like I said, you have no clue

and about "dicking" around with tapes, ever heard of a tape robot?

http://www.google.be/search?um=1&hl...m=isch&sa=1&q=tape+robot&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=
 
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Eos

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Photos and shit like that are mirrored across:

unRAID
my production machine
HTPC
external hdd

There are in the same house. This data is also backed up on two domains, different hosts.

I don't fuck around.
 

coloumb

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Most if not all of my important stuff [pics, docs, etc] can fit on a few dvd's.
 

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Don't. Nothing that important. My work stuff I put on the share drives and send myself e-mails.
 

LikeLinus

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I use WHS with 6TB of storage with a SanDigital external 4TB enclosure. I have Synctoy run an echo backup (mirror) of my Data to the external drives.

I also have Lacie and GTech 2TB external drives drives that I do backups to occationally. That way I have 3 versions of my Data. One Current, One Nightly and One Monthly.

I need to look at online backup for my most important stuff (family photos and movies).