A Breath of Fresh Air for Israel's Concentration Camp

[ProfJohn]

Yet lets look at how fast world consensus and reality can change.

Reality?

Here is reality.... the Arab world has never won a war against a western country.

The closest they can was when a British officer lead them in a revolt against the Turks otherwise they have lost every time.

I don't think that is about to change either.

 

[Lemon law]

Maybe we will all soon say, the Jewish State of Israel was its own worse enemy.

IMHO, it was fine initial world ideal to support Jewish refugees post the Holocaust, but the Israelis themselves collectively proved them selves unworthy of continual world support by their greed and piggishness. As Israel becomes the new Nazi's. And there is not hardly a dime's worth of difference between Israel policy and Nazi policy, except that Israel lacks any final solution. As Israel rapes human rights far longer.


How much longer can it last is the only question? And what price the USA will have to pay in delaying the inevitable?

 

[JSt0rm]

look I dont really give a fuck about this situation but whoever is dropping pictures as proof people have food or water parks is retarded. That kind of shit can be staged so easily.

ala

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theresienstadt

and those children later on heading to Auschwitz to die

Dont trust photos

 

[Freshgeardude]

Maybe we will all soon say, the Jewish State of Israel was its own worse enemy.

IMHO, it was fine initial world ideal to support Jewish refugees post the Holocaust, but the Israelis themselves collectively proved them selves unworthy of continual world support by their greed and piggishness. As Israel becomes the new Nazi's. And there is not hardly a dime's worth of difference between Israel policy and Nazi policy, except that Israel lacks any final solution. As Israel rapes human rights far longer.


How much longer can it last is the only question? And what price the USA will have to pay in delaying the inevitable?

the jews in israel didnt start the war in 1948, so I fail to see how they were "greedy and piggish" when they accepted the borders granted by the 1947 partition plan

 

[RampantAndroid]

Maybe we will all soon say, the Jewish State of Israel was its own worse enemy.

IMHO, it was fine initial world ideal to support Jewish refugees post the Holocaust, but the Israelis themselves collectively proved them selves unworthy of continual world support by their greed and piggishness. As Israel becomes the new Nazi's. And there is not hardly a dime's worth of difference between Israel policy and Nazi policy, except that Israel lacks any final solution. As Israel rapes human rights far longer.


How much longer can it last is the only question? And what price the USA will have to pay in delaying the inevitable?

How much land has Israel given up already?

 

[Freshgeardude]

How much land has Israel given up already?

Not enough.

 

[Doboji]

OP's drivel is about as insightful and intelligent as any other skinhead neo-nazi... which is to say not at all. Fortunately idiots like the OP have absolutely no influence on real life or the state of israel.

 

[Jhhnn]

OP's drivel is about as insightful and intelligent as any other skinhead neo-nazi... which is to say not at all. Fortunately idiots like the OP have absolutely no influence on real life or the state of israel.

Meanwhile, the slow motion Israeli version of Lebensraum continues. If the US weren't suffering from a self imposed guilt trip wrt the Holocaust, we'd see it for what it is. If the Israelis weren't Jewish, we'd have condemned them long ago.

 

[Lemon law]

Don't be a fool when you say, FGD, "the jews in israel didnt start the war in 1948, so I fail to see how they were "greedy and piggish" when they accepted the borders granted by the 1947 partition plan."

Even as I concede the Arabs were wrong to attack Israel in 1948. There are two crucial Israeli piggishness points you ignore still needing redress.

1. The Palestinian people and Israelis, at the time of the end of the British Palestinian mandate both owned almost all the land that became Israel. The Arab States and not the Palestinians attacked Israel in 1948, yet only the Palestinians got punished in an act of Israeli piggishness. If the right to return is ever honestly addressed, Israeli Jews will own less than 50% of Israeli 1948 borders.

2. As for any Israeli gains in the 1967&73 wars, Israeli, by UN doctrine has no claims to even a square inch of any of those gains.

But still those are future questions for the international community. And deny it or not, those international question will remain open until we have a fair mid-east peace.

Right now and IMHO, the USA is screwing only itself by trying too be a too one sided defender of Israeli piggishness. Something that will never sell and unsustainable.

Point granted FGD, you will not agree with my viewpoint, that is why we have to wait for later events, which will demonstrate which of us will prove to be closer to the final settlement.

To some extent, FGD, there is nothing more futile than debating about which of us can piss higher or faster.

The other point to make is that its may be foolish to see any possible Israeli lack of getting all of its demands as an unmitigated Israeli loss, when a fairer settlement will benefits all sides.

After all is not that the final goal, to see Israel becoming an accepted part of the mid-east neighborhood? As the better win win desired solution.

 

[EagleKeeper]

The Right to Return is a result of the Palestinians wanting all of Israel for themselves. Such was promised by the Arab countries when war was planned against Israel.

And there leadership still wants it all and are unwilling to compromise. They want to be rewarded for bad judgement and greed.

 

[Lemon law]

The Right to Return is a result of the Palestinians wanting all of Israel for themselves. Such was promised by the Arab countries when war was planned against Israel.

And there leadership still wants it all and are unwilling to compromise. They want to be rewarded for bad judgement and greed.

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What a piece of giant bullshit CC, even the fleeing Pals who went to the safety of the West Bank and Gaza to find some equal human rights after being raped in 1948, still got raped yet again when Israel gained illegitimate lands by conquest in the 1967&73 wars.

Now tell this forum exactly your reasoning how it was the Palestinian fault, when at best its the sole fault of only the Arabs States for the 1967 war.

Yet like a serial liar and a broken record, CC, you blame the Pals when they had nothing all to do with the 1967 war. Or the later 1973 war.

Pardon me and all due respects, CC, your reasoning is seriously defective and biased.

 

[Karl Agathon]

YAY!! Another "I hate Israel" circle jerk thread

 

[Lemon law]

YAY!! Another "I hate Israel" circle jerk thread

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Or is it another we love Israel and deny all other human rights circle jerk?

 

[SandEagle]

Denying the Holocaust is widely considered anti-semitic, and you've endorsed Holocaust denial on this discussion board. You're best off not playing the "anti-zionism isn't anti-semitism" game. It may work for other anti-Israel posters, but not you.

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/israel-must-stop-overplaying-the-holocaust-card-1.364297

just shut your faces all of you. these Israelistine and Palisrael threads are getting annoying.

 

[EagleKeeper]

LL - who taught you your alphabet letters.

I never said the Palestinians (which start with the letter P) were at fault for the '67 or' 73

All I stated was that the Palestinians want the Right of Return as a reward for choosing the losing side.

It was the Arabs (that word starts with the letter A) that promised the Palestinians that they could have all of Israel. It was the Arabs that kept up the hopes of the Palestinians until they were foolish enough to follow leadership that promised them the same thing.

And presently the Palestinians are puppets to the Arab states and can not make a decision without their approval.

Let the Palestinians dump their leaders and cut the strings that they are being jerked around with. Then they can live as well as those Israeli Arabs that did not believe the lies.

It is your ilk that hinder the Palestinians by telling them more lies.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Gaza is a prison camp of Hamas' own making. The Pals voted themselves in. Sucks to be them but not everyone can saved from their delusions in life, as the OP of this thread has so thoroughly demonstrated.

 

[Infohawk]

Concentration camp? So Palestinians are being gassed and cremated? They aren't? Oh right this is just an exaggerating troll thread. A successful one though.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Maybe we will all soon say, the Jewish State of Israel was its own worse enemy.

Israel's biggest problem is demographics. It just has too large of a Muslim population and they shouldn't have allowed that to develop. Also, they needed to just decisively take possession of the Gaza and the West Bank and boot out the Palestinians decades ago. Had they done that we could have Mid-East peace now and they wouldn't be facing the demographic threat.

I also think they made the mistake of not choosing Madgascar for a homeland, assuming that was ever a realistic option.

 

[wwswimming]

the jews in israel didnt start the war in 1948, so I fail to see how they were "greedy and piggish" when they accepted the borders granted by the 1947 partition plan

Israeli Jews certainly did run the entire 1948 "war", when Israel destroyed 400 Palestinian villages, killing approximately 200,000 Palestinians. Israel had the backing of the United States and England, both the governments and wealthy Jewish supporters. England, via the Balfour Declaration, promised Palestine to the Jewish people early in the 1900's. not that it was theirs to promise, but that's what Balfour did.

Al Nakba is quite well documented at
http://www.PalestineRemembered.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration_of_1926

Actually, the war started long before 1948. From 1935 to 1948, 4 Israeli terror groups, Irgun, Haganah, Stern Gang, and one other (whose name I can't remember) went around attacking their Palestinian neighbors & blowing sh!t up. Irgun was responsible for the attack on the King David Hotel, which killed 91 civilians, mostly British. The Jewish Terrorists were attempting a "false flag" attack - they were trying to make it look like Arabs blew up the hotel ... but they got caught.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

However, there was little justice for them. One member of Irgun, Benjamin Emanuel, moved to Chicago, where he knew his crimes would be accepted by the Chicago Israel-supporting community. One of his 3 sons is named Rahm Emanuel.

Maybe we will all soon say, the Jewish State of Israel was its own worse enemy.

nothing like moving into a neighborhood where you're outnumbered 1000 to 1 and instituting a bad neighbor policy.

IMHO, it was fine initial world ideal to support Jewish refugees post the Holocaust, but the Israelis themselves collectively proved them selves unworthy of continual world support by their greed and piggishness. As Israel becomes the new Nazi's. And there is not hardly a dime's worth of difference between Israel policy and Nazi policy, except that Israel lacks any final solution. As Israel rapes human rights far longer.

Israel-supporters have been terrorizing their neighbors from 1935 to present - that's 76 years. Israel-supporters have also been caught a number of times - the LaVon Affair (Israeli government officially apologized), the attack on the King David Hotel, the attack on the USS Liberty -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

- where Israel killed 34 American military men and wounded 170 others - attempting to stage "false flag attacks", where they tried to blame the attacks on Scary Muslims - and got caught.


>> As Israel becomes the new Nazi's.

Actually, the same people that financed WW2 Germany also financed Israel. They are not separate plans. Israel-supporters liked Adolf Hitler because he supported their plans for a Jewish state in Israel, though Hitler used the term "send the Jews to the Desert".

They were so closely connected that the Israel supporters negotiated with WW2 Germany to send Jewish people to Palestine, and to leave the Jewish people WHO OPPOSED ISRAEL BEHIND IN WW2 GERMANY.

That's one way to get rid of your enemies. WW2 Europe was full of internecine strife between Jewish groups. Wealthier European Jews were quite prejudiced towards Jews from Eastern Europe & Russia, aka Ashkenazi Jews. Quite well documented in a book by Jewish Historian Edwin Black -

The Transfer Agreement
http://www.transferagreement.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Transfer-Agree.../dp/0786708417
"The Transfer Agreement: The Dramatic Story of the Pact Between the Third Reich and Jewish Palestine (Paperback)"

 

[Zebo]

In any event, if officials of the PA follow through with their 'declaration of war' as they state, then Arabs in Judea/Samaria can pack their bags for the journey to Jordan (or hell). Not a bad result.

 

[Nebor]

just shut your faces all of you. these Israelistine and Palisrael threads are getting annoying.

Exactly. Americans don't CARE about Palestinians. By and large the world doesn't. If they did, the Palestinians would have nice homes in other countries by now. Stop making these annoying, anti-semitic threads.

Let me know when they start actually killing the people in this "concentration camp." I still won't care, but at least it'll point towards an end to this conflict.