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Originally posted by: RocksteadyDotNet
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: RocksteadyDotNet
Man, you need to move to a democratic country.

Here in Oz we can get codeine over the counter.

And none of that fascist "we want your licence" crap.
Hmm..

Nice.

No shit.

You keep your guns, we'll keep our good and cheap drugs.

And our free television where the goverment can't stop network tv from "immoral" swearing and violence. If it's after 8:30 they drop as many f-bombs as they like.

Democracy FTW.

I guess the government wouldn't want all the druggies to have a gun in reach. Thank God. "True Democracy: where we buy your drugs, and take your guns!"

As for immorality: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ZOOM
 
Switch doctors..

I once told my doctor that my throat was sore, she prescribed me Oxycontin..
My wife calls my doctor a dealer..

 
Originally posted by: Papagayo
Switch doctors..

I once told my doctor that my throat was sore, she prescribed me Oxycontin..
My wife calls my doctor a dealer..
Oxy for a sore throat???

Who and where?

*coughs* My throat is a bit scratchy.... I'm sure it will be worse later. 😉
 
I hear you dude. Your story is much worse than mine, but I'm pissed about it as well. I would recommend Naproxem Sodium/Aleve next time, it's a lot more powerful than Ibuprofen/Advil, and less damaging to your stomach.

I can't stock up on Sudafed anymore when it goes on sale. I missed the days when you could buy a whole bottle of like 150-300 tablets for $10. Now, it's easy to burn through 2 boxes when you're suck for 2 weeks taking them all the time. In college and don't have a car, so I have to walk 200 yards and riding the train to the local Kroger to buy more every time I'm sick. It's a big nuisance, b/c when I'm sick, I'm OUT of it, not the type that can go on with life as usual until I get better, and the last thing I want to be doing is having to go to the store for frickin legit sudafed (Pheylephrine HCL sucks).


The real ones to blame here are Congess/Lawmakers.
 
Originally posted by: soccerballtux

The real ones to blame here are Congess/Lawmakers.



not really. they just do what will get them elected. being hard on drug abusers gets them re-elected.

trouble is they don't think everything through.
 
Heh.... I remember going to the ER when I broke my jaw (four pieces; you could see it broken apart when I opened my mouth). I asked for something for the pain and they gave me some tylenol. I went in at 6pm and had to wait until 8am when the maxilofacial doctor was in to wire it shut.
 
you got robbed... my dentist would give me 30 days supply of vico without blinking. i didn't even have to ask...
 
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Don't blame drug addicts, blame those who want to "help" drug addicts.

Well, in Papagayo's case I'd agree (though I think he must have meant oxycodone, at best).

Typically, and especially in the case of ERs, doc are doing everything they can to NOT enable the drug abusers, sometimes to the detriment of the quality of care for people with actual pain.

Absolutely blame the drug addicts.
 
LOL.

You all think opiates are hard to get because of addicts? They are a schedule II drug. Do you know what that means?

 
Originally posted by: RocksteadyDotNet
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: RocksteadyDotNet
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: RocksteadyDotNet
Man, you need to move to a democratic country.

Here in Oz we can get codeine over the counter.

And none of that fascist "we want your licence" crap.
Hmm..

Nice.

No shit.

You keep your guns, we'll keep our good and cheap drugs.

And our free television where the goverment can't stop network tv from "immoral" swearing and violence. If it's after 8:30 they drop as many f-bombs as they like.

Democracy FTW.

where do you live?

Australia.

Edit - Oz = Australia, not the land of Oz.


Yea but your also Australian...which balances out any positives.

The last Aussie that came here with his uncontrolled pill habit...well....you know.
 
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Don't blame drug addicts, blame those who want to "help" drug addicts.

Well, in Papagayo's case I'd agree (though I think he must have meant oxycodone, at best).

Typically, and especially in the case of ERs, doc are doing everything they can to NOT enable the drug abusers, sometimes to the detriment of the quality of care for people with actual pain.

Absolutely blame the drug addicts.

To be fair you can't totaly blame the doctors. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,133204,00.html

Above them rests a sweeping coif of white hair; below, a thick, well-manicured white beard. A gentle man, he speaks softly, with jaws and temples tensed, projecting a belabored voice that toils to get from sentence to sentence. As he talks, you get the impression that he?s just a small dose of bad news away from shattering into a thousand pieces.

And with good reason. Fisher, a Harvard-trained physician, once specialized in the treatment of chronic pain. He served a predominantly rural and poor population in California. About 5-10 percent of his 3,000 clients were pain patients, victims of illnesses like cancer, steep falls, or car accidents.

A little more than five years ago, California Attorney General Bill Lockyer initiated a high-profile campaign against pain doctors who prescribe high doses of opioids ? drugs such as Oxycontin, Vicodin and codeine.

Lockyer made Frank Fisher his example. Lockyer and other California prosecutors likened Fisher to a crack dealer. Then, to a mass murderer. Fisher was charged with multiple counts of drug distribution, fraud, and most sensationally, 15 counts of murder. The state seized his assets. His bail was set at $15 million and he faced a possible life sentence.

Over the next five years, all of the charges against Fisher flitted away. A judge immediately threw out the murder charges in a preliminary hearing. Four years later, another judge threw out the other felony charges ? manslaughter and fraud. In May of this year, a jury considered the remaining misdemeanor charges against Fisher and acquitted him on every one of them. One juror said Fisher had been the victim of a ?witch hunt.?





when they are getting hunted down by DEA agents, newspapers looking for a "story" do you really blame them for not wanting to give them out?


though when that happens you get shit like http://www.reason.com/news/show/35695.html this happening.
 
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Don't blame drug addicts, blame those who want to "help" drug addicts.

Well, in Papagayo's case I'd agree (though I think he must have meant oxycodone, at best).

Typically, and especially in the case of ERs, doc are doing everything they can to NOT enable the drug abusers, sometimes to the detriment of the quality of care for people with actual pain.

Absolutely blame the drug addicts.

To be fair you can't totaly blame the doctors. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,133204,00.html

Above them rests a sweeping coif of white hair; below, a thick, well-manicured white beard. A gentle man, he speaks softly, with jaws and temples tensed, projecting a belabored voice that toils to get from sentence to sentence. As he talks, you get the impression that he?s just a small dose of bad news away from shattering into a thousand pieces.

And with good reason. Fisher, a Harvard-trained physician, once specialized in the treatment of chronic pain. He served a predominantly rural and poor population in California. About 5-10 percent of his 3,000 clients were pain patients, victims of illnesses like cancer, steep falls, or car accidents.

A little more than five years ago, California Attorney General Bill Lockyer initiated a high-profile campaign against pain doctors who prescribe high doses of opioids ? drugs such as Oxycontin, Vicodin and codeine.

Lockyer made Frank Fisher his example. Lockyer and other California prosecutors likened Fisher to a crack dealer. Then, to a mass murderer. Fisher was charged with multiple counts of drug distribution, fraud, and most sensationally, 15 counts of murder. The state seized his assets. His bail was set at $15 million and he faced a possible life sentence.

Over the next five years, all of the charges against Fisher flitted away. A judge immediately threw out the murder charges in a preliminary hearing. Four years later, another judge threw out the other felony charges ? manslaughter and fraud. In May of this year, a jury considered the remaining misdemeanor charges against Fisher and acquitted him on every one of them. One juror said Fisher had been the victim of a ?witch hunt.?





when they are getting hunted down by DEA agents, newspapers looking for a "story" do you really blame them for not wanting to give them out?


though when that happens you get shit like http://www.reason.com/news/show/35695.html this happening.

I really don't blame the docs (unless they're just total dicks about it). I blame the seekers and the uneducated/pious/witch-hunting lawmakers (as in your example). In the majority of cases doctors are just covering their well-exposed asses, and I understand that. Unfortunately it's the people like you and my wife who often suffer the consequences.
 
Man up! 😛

I was taking 5 200 mg advil every 3 or 4 hours for a couple weeks!
and I was fine.
I even ran out of the advil and took about 22 500 mg tylenol in less than 24 hours...
the first time I got to the dentist, he opened up my tooth and cleaned out all of the nerve in there... in fact he left my tooth open... and wrote me a script for 20 7.5mg vicodins... which I took a couple of but didn't really need any of them.
 
Originally posted by: zeruty
Man up! 😛

I was taking 5 200 mg advil every 3 or 4 hours for a couple weeks!
and I was fine.
I even ran out of the advil and took about 22 500 mg tylenol in less than 24 hours...
the first time I got to the dentist, he opened up my tooth and cleaned out all of the nerve in there... in fact he left my tooth open... and wrote me a script for 20 7.5mg vicodins... which I took a couple of but didn't really need any of them.

Holy fucking Christ.

You're lucky that didn't kill you. I'm quite sure it did considerably liver damage, however.

No wonder acetaminophen is the leading cause of liver failure in the US.

People think they can take the shit like it's candy.. 😕

 
Tough it out you sissy. Last time I smashed my thumb w/ a car door, I didn't take any OTC pain killers. The pain lets me know I'm still alive.
 
When I broke my clavicle, my doctor was the candy (wo)man. She'd give me as much vicodin as I wanted :laugh: I ended up weening myself off of them with about 50 pills left. I held onto them, but had to throw them away because they expired 🙁
 
Originally posted by: Baked
Tough it out you sissy. Last time I smashed my thumb w/ a car door, I didn't take any OTC pain killers. The pain lets me know I'm still alive.

You sound like one of those creepy guys who puts out cigars on his penis.
 
Originally posted by: zeruty
Man up! 😛

I was taking 5 200 mg advil every 3 or 4 hours for a couple weeks!
and I was fine.
I even ran out of the advil and took about 22 500 mg tylenol in less than 24 hours...
the first time I got to the dentist, he opened up my tooth and cleaned out all of the nerve in there... in fact he left my tooth open... and wrote me a script for 20 7.5mg vicodins... which I took a couple of but didn't really need any of them.

Your liver will be thanking you later in life, that stuff is VERY hard on it
 
Originally posted by: Eeezee
Originally posted by: Baked
Tough it out you sissy. Last time I smashed my thumb w/ a car door, I didn't take any OTC pain killers. The pain lets me know I'm still alive.

You sound like one of those creepy guys who puts out cigars on his penis.

lmfao
 
Originally posted by: Eeezee
Originally posted by: Baked
Tough it out you sissy. Last time I smashed my thumb w/ a car door, I didn't take any OTC pain killers. The pain lets me know I'm still alive.

You sound like one of those creepy guys who puts out cigars on his penis.

hahahahaha :laugh:
 
Originally posted by: Eeezee
When I broke my clavicle, my doctor was the candy (wo)man. She'd give me as much vicodin as I wanted :laugh: I ended up weening myself off of them with about 50 pills left. I held onto them, but had to throw them away because they expired 🙁
You... you .. threw them away.. because they expired?

:shocked:

Opiate analgesics aren't like milk. 😛
 
Aircooled hit it with the second response. You calmly tell them that you find their solution insufficient and that you are going to be taking your business elsewhere. If you're feeling especially vindictive, tell them off by saying that they have a lot to learn in the field of pain management and that you hope they don't make all their patients suffer like you are now, because what they are doing now is malpractice.



 
Totally understand what you feel. My mom had trouble getting pain killers here in London due to addicts, finally found a doctor who also had a mom with MS/Epilepsy and was willing to write her perscriptions for Oxy. When she moved though and went to get her perscription filled the doctor in North Bay refused (its 200 pills Oxy/Month). Took 2 weeks for the doctor in London to call the doctor in North Bay but its all good now, but man, during that 2 weeks, I was ready to kill every addict I saw.
 
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