A better system for me?

i1o0i

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I'm planning to build a great gaming pc system.. my budget range is 1000-1800.. so can you give me a good gaming rig?

my anandtech rigs is just my wish..lol
 

karma112

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do you want a sli rig or agp? i just made a very nice sli rig for about 1600 without 2nd vid card for now but 1600 for sli rig is nice also in said rig do you plan to oc?
 

i1o0i

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actually I dunno if I need sli motherboard.. sli mean 2 video cards enabled, correct??
 

imported_rod

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You might want to outline a few more details:
Overclocking ?
AGP/PCI-E/SLI ?
Quietness ?
Need a Monitor ?
Need Mouse/KB ?
Need Speakers ?
Need Software ?
 

i1o0i

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Uhh I would like to have gaming AMD system, powerful PCI-E Video Card, Quite, Illuminited Keyboard, Wireless Mouse, 2 Pieces Speaker, no softwares needed, might overclock the processor.
 

imported_rod

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For around $1000, you should be able to get something like this:
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3500+
MoBo: ASUS A8N-SLI deluxe
RAM: 1GB [2x512MB] Corsair Value Select DDR400
VC: X800XL
HDD: 200GB SATA Drive
OPT1: Lite-ON DVD-/+RW
OPT2: DVD-ROM
PSU: Antec TruePower II 430W
Speakers: Logitech X-230 (2.1)
HSF: Zalman 7000AlCu


Or for closer to $1800, you should be able to get something like this:
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3800+
MoBo: ASUS A8N-SLI deluxe
RAM: 1GB [2x512MB] DDR400 - Corsair TWINX
VC: Dual 6800GTs
HDD1: 74GB WD Raptor SATA (Applications/Games)
HDD2: 250GB SATA Drive (General Storage)
OPT1: Pioneer DVR-109
OPT2: DVD-ROM
PSU: Antec NeoPower 480W
Speakers: Logitech Z-3
HSF: Thermalright XP-90 with 90mm Panaflo fan

Hows that? Any Questions?

RoD
 

imported_rod

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Originally posted by: i1o0i
HSF?? I was wondering what materials do I need to overclock?
Materials...do you mean hardware?

You don't really need any extra hardware to overclock, but it does help if you have a good HSF (HeatSink+Fan). A good CPU core (the exact type of CPU), MoBo and RAM also help.

RoD
 

GuitarDaddy

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HSF = Heat Sink Fan. One of the most important parts if overclocking to keep your CPU cool. The XP-90 and XP-120 are the best on the market right now

No other materials are necessary. Some software to test system stability like "Prime95" wich is a free download. The rest is just changing CPU and Ram settings in bios.
 

GuitarDaddy

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Here is the XP-120, the XP-90 is the same thing just 90mm instead of 120mm

XP-120

And for maximum cooling you mount a fan on top like this one

Panaflow 120mm Ultra Quiet

Or a 90mm fan if you use the XP-90


The easiest and most basic way to overclock is by increasing your HTT setting in bios. It is set at 200mhz (stock). CPU mhz is calculated by multipling HTT by the CPU multi.
For a 3200+ it is HTT 200 x 10 mult = 2000mhz (stock). So if you increase HTT to 210, you have overclocked the CPU to 2100mhz 210 x 10

When you raise HTT you are also overclock the ram. Ram is calculated as HTT 200 x 2 = 400DDR, so HTT 210 x 2 = 420DDR. Depending on your ram it may or may not overclock well. If you ram is not good O/C ram, you can use a "Memory divider" also know as "Memory Ratios". These settings allow you to run memory at a % of the HTT speed. Memory dividers are usually labeled as a portion of 200mhz, like 166,133,100.
For example if you use HTT 241 with the 166 divider, ramspeed would be calculated 241/200*166=200mhz x 2 = DDR400. This allows you to overclock your CPU even if you don't have good overclocking Ram.

As you increase HTT, at some point your system will become unstable. At this point you must increase your CPU volts. Increasing volts increases heat so watch your temperatures as you increase the volts. Use a program like "Prime95" to test your system stability. Once you think you have your maximum stable overclock, run Prime95 overnight, if it gets errors, back off your overclock and try again. Once it passes Prime95 overnight, then its a stable O/C and you can use the settings without fear of your system becoming unstable.

Have fun:D
 

i1o0i

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I'm confused to choose LCD Monitor.. which monitor I should buy? I'm thinking Viewsonic VX-715 LCD Monitor.. and also I'm wondering if I need Controller card for 200GB and 73GB Hard drive?
 

GuitarDaddy

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I don't have a lot of experience with monitors, but I have the Samsung 17" LCD 712N and I really like it, its a nice monitor. I'm guessing your not in the US, but if you are Office Depot is having an instore clearance on the 712N and with 2 different rebates you can get it for $69:D after the rebates

Fat wallet hot deals 712N


And if you get an nforce4 motherboard as suggested above, you won't need a controller card for the hard drives. The built in controllers on the board will handle up to 10 hard drives and will also handle raid configurations.
 

t3h l337 n3wb

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You seem to be a real newb when it comes to overclocking... Make sure to do a lot of research before attempting to overclock, so that you don't blow up your processor in the process (no pun intended :p).

I'd go with a setup like this:
(All of the following are from Newegg, but I'm too lazy to post links)

Athlon 64 3200+ Venice Retail - ~$200
MSI Neo-4 Platinum - ~$140
2x512MB Corsair Value Select CAS 2.5 RAM - ~$80
6600GT - ~$180
XClio 450W PSU with dual +12V rails - ~$50
DVD +/- RW - ~$50
DVD-ROM - ~$30
Western Digital Caviar 200GB SATA 7200RPM 8MB cache hard drive - ~$110
Pick a nice $50-$100 alluminum case
Keyboard/mouse - ~$40

TOTAL:~$930-$980 depending on which case you picked.
Throw in shipping, and there's a really nice gaming computer for $1000. Better to save your money now and upgrade later. Pick a nice sub-$250 17" LCD monitor, and you're set!
 

GuitarDaddy

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From my post above

"If you get an nforce4 motherboard as suggested above, you won't need a controller card for the hard drives. The built in controllers on the board will handle up to 10 hard drives and will also handle raid configurations"


You don't need a controller card, all of newer motherboards will support the hard drives you listed. Just make sure you have WindowsXP service pack 1 or higher operating system. For older versions of Windows you have to patch the operating system to get it to access large hard drives.
 

i1o0i

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I'm not planning to buy SLI Motherboard.. I'm planning to buy DFI LANParty UT Ultra Motherboard
 

i1o0i

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DFI LANPARTY UT Ultra-D MOBO
AMD Athlon 64 3800+ (is it 90nm cpu?)
1GB (2x512) Corsair TwinX Memory
Hitachi 160GB SATAII
Hitachi Deskstar 80GB SATAII
256MB eVGA Nvidia Geforce 6800GT
NEC 3520-A DVD Burner
Lite-On DVD-ROM Drive
Thermaltake VA3000 Dream Tower Black w/ Window
Thermaltake 480 Watt Power Supply


How's that sound?