a better society through abortion!

[artikk]

Originally posted by: Tabb

Originally posted by: russianpower

Originally posted by: Tabb
Rip from what I've read follows the bible literally, that's just plain stupid. If you can't grasp that fact that falliable men created the bible you're "slow". Crimson advocated that we should kill slow people. I'd say Rip would be prime example of that.

Bible was administered and written/created by God while the people wrote down the information.

For starters you're going to have to convince me that "God" does infact exsist. Then we'll discuss if he's a Christian God...

That I cannot do, sir.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: russianpower

Originally posted by: Tabb
Rip from what I've read follows the bible literally, that's just plain stupid. If you can't grasp that fact that falliable men created the bible you're "slow". Crimson advocated that we should kill slow people. I'd say Rip would be prime example of that.

Bible was administered and written/created by God while the people wrote down the information.

I'm sorry... this made me imagine God in his office, smoking a Cuban yelling through the door "Johnson - I gave you the draft for Deuteronomy weeks ago, now where is it?"

(except he would have said it in Hebrew, but why worry about other anachronisms if he has a cuban, right?)

 

[Promethply]

Hmmm some people playing with the idea of eugenics again :disgust:

 

[0roo0roo]

not so much eugenics as common sense. family planning. have a child when you are ready, not because the priest forces you to.

 

[Martin]

Abortions for some, miniature american flags for others!

 

[railer]

Yea I just posed this in another abortion thread...Why do Jesus Krispy's get their panties in a wad so over abortion? I have never understood what the big deal was. There's too many people in the world anyway. People in Iraq die by the 100's every day. If someone want an abortion...let em have it. All the more for the rest of us.....


Rip you are Jesus Freak defined. People like you are truly terrifying....

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Yeah, what am I thinking. Expect teenagers to exhibit self-control?

It probably won't happen as long as society keeps glorifying sexual promiscuity.

I've been lurking for quite awhile around here. I've noticed that you'd fit in well with Orwell's "Junior Anti-Sex League." Did you get castrated prior to puberty? Not a flame, really! It just seems like you have no concept of sexual attraction or desire beyond what is taught in your bible.

Rip is right on this one and the opinion has nothing to do with lack of sex drive, and I would request you revert back to lurking mode, because your ignorance is a waste of bandwidth.

When you look at the vehicles that influence the 'normalizing' of sexuality among teenagers, they are increasingly far greater than of recent decades, and its very difficult for a teenager, even grade school teenagers, to not broach the issue of having sex. Before the 'information' age, it wasn't (and couldn't be) glorified in nearly the same magnitude.

Sex sells, and as long as that is the case, and as long as this is capitalism, sex will be pushed in as many angles as possible, and those angles are no longer distanced from teens including young teens.

I watched a Maury show yesterday (the talk show for paternity testing ) and an 11 year old girl had sex with a 13 year old boy. They were there for dna testing (he was negative.). They were incredibly regretful about having a child, but when asked, they said they were each currently sexually active with someone else.

Is all this because children are influenced at an early age by the glorification of sex? No, but probably out of the current statistics of teenagers having sex, probably about 80-90% are a direct or indirect result imo (along with many other influences that may make shildren more susceptible to these influences).

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: EatSpam
Birth control accomplishes all those things and isn't quite so controversial... just sayin'.

I'd rather see less abortions and more birth control.

:thumbsup:

 

[impeachbush]

Rip, are you saying that a true follower of Christ would not agree to allowing abortion in extreme circumstances? I'd like you to answer a yes or no.

 

[Trevelyan]

Originally posted by: impeachbush
Rip, are you saying that a true follower of Christ would not agree to allowing abortion in extreme circumstances? I'd like you to answer a yes or no.

I would think that Jesus would value the life of the child regardless of the circumstance surrounding his conception, which that child had no active part in.

Surely, if the circumstance is rape, then the woman's rights were violated. She is a victim, an innocent victim of someone else acting without regard for her rights.

With that in mind, are you now suggesting that it is OK to kill the child because the mother's rights were violated? Does one wrong excuse another? It seems obvious to me that justice in this case does not involve killing the innocent child, but rather punishing the guilty rapist.

 

[piasabird]

If it is the liberals and the mentally and financial elite that are doing all the abortion, then it puts them at a disadvantage because it means there will be fewer liberals and elites to vote against for the conservatives. Abortion is actually bad for the liberal movement.

Any society that allows its people to commit abortion is teaching its society that it is alright to commit any crime, including murder, to get whatever they want!

Abortion is the ultimate form of Greed!

Abortion is one step away from killing babies that are unwanted after they are born. It is like killing all female babies because you want male children.

 

[impeachbush]

Originally posted by: Trevelyan

Originally posted by: impeachbush
Rip, are you saying that a true follower of Christ would not agree to allowing abortion in extreme circumstances? I'd like you to answer a yes or no.

I would think that Jesus would value the life of the child regardless of the circumstance surrounding his conception, which that child had no active part in.

Surely, if the circumstance is rape, then the woman's rights were violated. She is a victim, an innocent victim of someone else acting without regard for her rights.

With that in mind, are you now suggesting that it is OK to kill the child because the mother's rights were violated? Does one wrong excuse another? It seems obvious to me that justice in this case does not involve killing the innocent child, but rather punishing the guilty rapist.

So, was that a yes or a no.

 

[impeachbush]

Originally posted by: piasabird
If it is the liberals and the mentally and financial elite that are doing all the abortion, then it puts them at a disadvantage because it means there will be fewer liberals and elites to vote against for the conservatives. Abortion is actually bad for the liberal movement.

Any society that allows its people to commit abortion is teaching its society that it is alright to commit any crime, including murder, to get whatever they want!

Abortion is the ultimate form of Greed!

Abortion is one step away from killing babies that are unwanted after they are born. It is like killing all female babies because you want male children.

So are you saying that because God doesn't approve of abortion that God is a Republican? Yes or no.

 

[XZeroII]

I have a better idea, why don't we just kill everyone who we don't like! Eventually there will only be left a group of people who all like each other!

A better society through mass homocide!

:roll:

 

[Promethply]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
not so much eugenics as common sense. family planning. have a child when you are ready, not because the priest forces you to.

Agreed, as long as it's the pregnant mother's decision to go through abortion,

and it's not forced down their throat by the government.

 

[wchou]

Originally posted by: XZeroII
I have a better idea, why don't we just kill everyone who we don't like! Eventually there will only be left a group of people who all like each other!

A better society through mass homocide!

:roll:

Getting whacko aren't we? I see prolife working his mind here.
so everytime I take an egg and eat it, I kill a chicken?

 

[impeachbush]

Getting whacko aren't we? I see prolife working his mind here.
so everytime I take an egg and eat it, I kill a chicken?

Interesting.... So when I eat an egg, I'm first ripping the chicken fetus out of the womb (well, shell) dumping it into a bowl and half drowning it in its own embryonic fluid, then I beat its brains, organs, body into a pulp, then dump the scrambled chicken fetus onto a searing hot frying pan and cook moisture out of it until the scrambled fetus turn to a hardened rubbery subtance that smells like sulfur and looks like curdled milk. And then its all eaten with a pinch of pepper and salt... never thought of it like this. I've aborted thousands of little baby chickens! I am truly a monster. :evil:

NoTE: not trying to dehumanize human abortion.. just never thought of chickens in that manner.

Edit: DOH! Just brushed up on my chicken reproduction, and it appears that the eggs we buy from the store have not been fertilized. In case your incredibly bored, heres the link. http://www.hhmi.org/cgi-bin/askascienti...&file=answers%2Fgeneral%2Fans_023.html

 

[Trevelyan]

Originally posted by: impeachbush

Originally posted by: Trevelyan

Originally posted by: impeachbush
Rip, are you saying that a true follower of Christ would not agree to allowing abortion in extreme circumstances? I'd like you to answer a yes or no.

I would think that Jesus would value the life of the child regardless of the circumstance surrounding his conception, which that child had no active part in.

Surely, if the circumstance is rape, then the woman's rights were violated. She is a victim, an innocent victim of someone else acting without regard for her rights.

With that in mind, are you now suggesting that it is OK to kill the child because the mother's rights were violated? Does one wrong excuse another? It seems obvious to me that justice in this case does not involve killing the innocent child, but rather punishing the guilty rapist.

So, was that a yes or a no.

First, here's a :roll: and now, here's a suggestion: read my post.

 

[Trevelyan]

Originally posted by: Promethply

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
not so much eugenics as common sense. family planning. have a child when you are ready, not because the priest forces you to.

Agreed, as long as it's the pregnant mother's decision to go through abortion,

and it's not forced down their throat by the government.

The priest didn't force you to have sex and become impregnated. Choices carry consequences; that is life.