9800Pro (XT Flashed) sux at 3dMark05

[phaxmohdem]

I was running the 3DMarks for fun on my Lan rig, and noticed that 3Dmark05 seems way too low for the specs of the system. Teh Vid card is a 9800Pro flashed to XT, and a P4 northwood @ 3.45GHz. I can't even break 1300 in 3D05..

3DMark2001SE = 16,000 - OK
3DMark2003 = 6,231 - OK I think
3DMark05 = 1,283 - Not OK

I've tried all the quick fixes, reinstalled drivers (Cat 5.11), reinstalled Chipset drivers, turned Hyperthreading on/off, temps Checked DX, current @ 9.0C I"m stumped. All my games play fine which is ultimately what matters, but can't figure this annomoly out.

 

[Powermoloch]

meh...the funny thing is..that the 6600 beats your 3dmark05 scores @_@

 

[phaxmohdem]

uhh ok, I didn't ask about the 6600 but whatever, The point is a normal 9800XT/pro should be throwing down numbers from 2500-3000 in 3DMark05. Something is obviously off.

 

[Powermoloch]

Well, it seems that your card is showing "age". If everything is fine per se

 

[phaxmohdem]

The card itself was brand new when I installed it a couple weeks ago... It probably is a driver issue somewhere I guess, seeing as 03 and 01 throw up correct numbers for the systems specs.

 

[Powermoloch]

Originally posted by: phaxmohdem
The card itself was brand new when I installed it a couple weeks ago... It probably is a driver issue somewhere I guess, seeing as 03 and 01 throw up correct numbers for the systems specs.

Had you tried other drivers ?

Unless the card is chuggin @ 3dmark05 due to heat.

 

[phaxmohdem]

I thought of the heat issue, so I downclocked the card to avoid that (It has a Zalman CU700 or whatever copper cooler on it with AS5 inbetwee so the core is nice and cool. Mem is not cooled however, but clocked down the score just got lower.

I suppose I could try the 5.10 drivers or something along those lines IF I can find em

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: phaxmohdem
The card itself was brand new when I installed it a couple weeks ago... It probably is a driver issue somewhere I guess, seeing as 03 and 01 throw up correct numbers for the systems specs.

something is definitely wrong .. . . my 9800xt scored over 3K in '05.

What did you have in there before your 9800p?

oh, yeah . . . are you sure you are running 3DMark'05 at default?
[no aa/af 'forced' somewhere]

 

[phaxmohdem]

I had a 9600SE in there before. DriverCleaner used before I installed the 9800P even. 3DMark05 is not changable by me, and the AA/AF is turned to Application Preference in the Control Panel. I am running 3DMark05 Verssion 1.0.0 don't know if that would cause problems though

 

[Paratus]

My 9600XT just scored 2180 - you probably have v sync or AA on somewhere.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: phaxmohdem
I had a 9600SE in there before. DriverCleaner used before I installed the 9800P even. 3DMark05 is not changable by me, and the AA/AF is turned to Application Preference in the Control Panel. I am running 3DMark05 Version 1.0.0 don't know if that would cause problems though

You DO know there is no need to use drive cleaner or uninstall Cats when changing Radeons? Now that you messed with it, try uninstall Drivers and everything . . . of course, the 9600se still doesn't show up in one of the Device Manager slots . . .

Since 3D'01 and '03 run fine i can't say what makes '05 odd.

How are games?

 

[Captante]

My 9800 Pro 256mb scored about 2400 & the 128mb scored 2200 in 3d-05... somthing must be wrong although I'm not sure what.

 

[zagood]

Try flashing it back to pro and see what your scores are. I have a feeling it's the bios.

Are you using a stock XT bios, or setting your own in Nibitor?

-z

 

[phaxmohdem]

I've tried to fash back to a 9800 Pro BIOS, however I just get display corruption. The disk with the original BIOS was a piece of crap and the file was corrupted, I've tried other 9800Pro BIOSes as well, but same story. The XT BIOS is the only usable one I can find. The performance in real games is there, so I don't really care too much about 3Dmark, I just find it very wierd, and would like to know the cause of 05 sucking it up.

 

[Killrose]

Make sure AAF/AF are disabled. Reload motherboard AGP drivers and DX9.0c

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: Killrose
Make sure AAF/AF are disabled. Reload motherboard AGP drivers and DX9.0c

check mb Gart drivers espically. I get about 3150-3200 with my 9800pro flashed to xt.

 

[Greenman]

05 is flaky. On my system it shut down all hardware acceleration half way through the run. FPS dropped to 1, and I spent the next 5 minutes watching a slide show. Deleting 3D mark solved the problem.

 

[Munky]

A 9800xt should get around 3000 (I used to have one on a AXP rig, and that's what it got), so go to your display options, and under 3d settings click the default button and hit ok. Even if it looks like it's at default already, do it anyways, it worked for me.

 

[allies]

Originally posted by: Greenman
05 is flaky. On my system it shut down all hardware acceleration half way through the run. FPS dropped to 1, and I spent the next 5 minutes watching a slide show. Deleting 3D mark solved the problem.

Heh... 3DMark05 was probably doing the CPU test as this point...

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: Greenman
05 is flaky. On my system it shut down all hardware acceleration half way through the run. FPS dropped to 1, and I spent the next 5 minutes watching a slide show. Deleting 3D mark solved the problem.

LOL, yeah it's supposed to do that - it uses software rendering for the last 2 tests, but it doesnt affect the overall score.

 

[Greenman]

Originally posted by: munky

Originally posted by: Greenman
05 is flaky. On my system it shut down all hardware acceleration half way through the run. FPS dropped to 1, and I spent the next 5 minutes watching a slide show. Deleting 3D mark solved the problem.

LOL, yeah it's supposed to do that - it uses software rendering for the last 2 tests, but it doesnt affect the overall score.

I had no idea, that explanes a lot. Really couldn't care less though, I never even looked at the results when it finished.

 

[Leper Messiah]

aye, I did about 3400 with my pro @ 450/400. Just retired it today.

 

[phaxmohdem]

Well just a quick update, I upgraded the catalyst drivers last night ferom 5.11 to 5.12, and it fixed it... Very strange, but whatever. It's all good now. Throwin' down 2891 in 3D-05, 6620 in 3D-03, and 17545 in 3D-01. Once my RAM sinks ever ship out from SVC, I"ll be able to clock the mem back up to XT speeds, and that should help put me around 3K I think. So the balance of nature has returned.

 

[Fern]

Well, good news. :thumbsup:

Your scores are now what they should be. I think mine were a bit lower with my 9800p. But could be the cpu.

Still, a little wierd the 5.11 were doing that. Maybe they became corrupted somehow?

Fern

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: Fern
Well, good news. :thumbsup:

Your scores are now what they should be. I think mine were a bit lower with my 9800p. But could be the cpu.

Still, a little wierd the 5.11 were doing that. Maybe they became corrupted somehow?

Fern

Maybe they missed another IF statemet?