9800pro .. wont go over 60fps in CStrike.. plus it beeps

[w0318]

hey guys my counterstrike wont go above 60fps. plus the pc beeps when i play cs but its smooth no issues. what gives?

Generic 320 PSU
2.4
8inxp Gigabye board
512 266
9800pro
XP pro

i am ripping my hair out.

 

[Schadenfroh]

disable truform

 

[codeyf]

in console:

/fpsmax 100 or is it /fps_max 100?

I forget. but the default is 60, not that you can tell the diff between 60 and 100.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: w0318
hey guys my counterstrike wont go above 60fps. plus the pc beeps when i play cs but its smooth no issues. what gives?

Generic 320 PSU
2.4
8inxp Gigabye board
512 266
9800pro
XP pro

i am ripping my hair out.

Why do you care? Why does it even matter? I am assuming your using a CRT, which is most likely under a 72Hz Refresh Rate so any framerates over 72 you wont be able to notice the difference. I seriously doubt your video card is beeping.

 

[w0318]

i did the fps_max 99 . also where do i disble tru form.. i disabled fastwrite already

sorry pC is beeping


i care cause all my friends get 99 ot 100 fps.. and i get 60 max!! we paid the same price. its probably my stubborn nature LOL..
visually i am sure you are correct i dont see it. but it seems like the crosshair is more active at 100 fps.

 

[kylebisme]

it is fps_max and the default is 72. however w0318 obviously is running a 60hz refresh rate and framerate is synced to that. to up the refresh rate look in advanced display properties > displays, and then click on your display and pick 85hz or whatever in the refresh rate override section. also, i recomend keeping vsync on for beter image quality, but you should also enable tripple buffering under the 3d tab, opengl checkbox, compatablity settings.


or you can use rtool for all of that, making the changes a whole lot quicker.

 

[w0318]

so the monitor refresh rate affects my fps. ??

whats rtool for?

 

[kylebisme]

ya, with vertical sync on the videocard waits for the monitor to finish drawing one frame before sending another, this is so you get nice solid images that are made up of one compleate frame instead of various portions of multiple ones. rtool is just a little utility that lets you quickly change all your 3d settings, opengl and direct3d settings are on the main screen and refresh rate override and tripple buffering are in addtional options.

as for the beeping, do you mean in game? if so, that is just something that happens when you try to press more keyboard buttons at once than the game can comprehend.

 

[charloscarlies]

so the monitor refresh rate affects my fps. ??

Technically no...but refresh rate is a VERY important aspect that many gamers overlook. There is no point at all of getting above 60 fps when your refresh is locked at 60 hz. I would also pretty much guarantee that you have vsync on.

1) turn off vsync
2) download reforce from ftp.thecpl.com and set your refresh rate for your in game resolution (most professionals use anything from 85-120 hz...but make sure you don't go over the specs of your monitor)
3) set fps_max 100 (you can actually go higher by typing: developer 1....then fps_max 500...or whatever fpsmax u want)
4) lower your sensitivity because refresh rates affect it BIG time.

happy fraggin....

 

[BFG10K]

Turn off vsync and make sure you're running at the highest refresh rate your monitor supports for your resolution.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: charloscarlies

so the monitor refresh rate affects my fps. ??

Technically no...but refresh rate is a VERY important aspect that many gamers overlook. There is no point at all of getting above 60 fps when your refresh is locked at 60 hz. I would also pretty much guarantee that you have vsync on.

1) turn off vsync
2) download reforce from ftp.thecpl.com and set your refresh rate for your in game resolution (most professionals use anything from 85-120 hz...but make sure you don't go over the specs of your monitor)
3) set fps_max 100 (you can actually go higher by typing: developer 1....then fps_max 500...or whatever fpsmax u want)
4) lower your sensitivity because refresh rates affect it BIG time.

happy fraggin....

technically yes, it does effect your fps when you have vsync on. that is why we turn vsync off for benchmarking, to see the framerate the card is capable of instead of the limit imposed on it by doing what is best for image quality on the monitor.

1) don't do that unless you like torn images beter than solid ones.
2) that is unnecessary as ati has a refresh override option built in to their drivers.
3) i suppose, if you like tearing and disable vsync. otherwise you might as well set fps_max to your refresh rate.
4) that doesn't even make sense to me, but if figured i'd give the benefit of the doubt and try it; the mouse moves the view the same amount at both 85hz and 60hz.

 

[boyRacer]

beeping? are you using a PS2 mouse?

 

[charloscarlies]

technically yes, it does effect your fps when you have vsync on. that is why we turn vsync off for benchmarking, to see the framerate the card is capable of instead of the limit imposed on it by doing what is best for image quality on the monitor.

1) don't do that unless you like torn images beter than solid ones.
2) that is unnecessary as ati has a refresh override option built in to their drivers.
3) i suppose, if you like tearing and disable vsync. otherwise you might as well set fps_max to your refresh rate.
4) that doesn't even make sense to me, but if figured i'd give the benefit of the doubt and try it; the mouse moves the view the same amount at both 85hz and 60hz.

Sorry...technically wasn't the correct word. Thank you for correcting me. As for disabling vsync...I urge you to find ONE single professional counter-strike player that uses vsync on. If you find one....he's the exception.

You are right though...developer 1 is useless so you might as well set your fps_max to your refresh rate. My refresh rate for counter-strike is 100 hz and my fps_max is 100. Works nicely for me.

And trust me refresh rates affect the sensitivity big time. You may not notice a big difference between 60 and 85...but from 60 to 120 you have to basically cut your sensitivity in half. If you don't believe me....I can send a demo of the two different refresh rates. It's also much easier to see the difference with the xp mouse accel fix. Trust me...if there is one thing I know...it's counter-strike.

 

[kylebisme]

ya i know cs pretty well myself as i have been playing sence b5.2, i have put quite a bit of time into the game and i still play it nearly daily. anyway, i just drooped my res to 1024x768 so i could do 120hz and one pass across my mouse pad is one complete circle, and it was exactly the same when i went to 60hz. of course i got rid of the stupid mouse accel in xp, so the speed which i moved the mouse has nothing to do with the distance traveled. simple fact is swtiching refresh rate, and even switching resolution does nothing to change mouse movement.

as for so called "professional" players, sure most of them don't use vsync but most don't even know what it does and have just been told not to use it by silly people who think it's bad and have never heard of tripple buffering anyway. hell most of them play at 640x480 because they swear it makes players heads bigger and many couldn't even tell you what antialising and anisotropy are either. just because they are "professionals" doesn't mean they know crap about computers, just that they have some skills when it comes to playing the game. furthermore, half them are only good if they have an ak, m4 or awp in their hands; but can't use a pump shotty, ump, or anything else to save their lifes.

 

[Viper96720]

Turn off sticky keys. Maybe causing the beeps. Get's enabled after pressing shift or some other keys a bunch of times in succesion. It's in the accesibility options.

 

[BenSkywalker]

plus the pc beeps when i play cs but its smooth no issues.

How are your temps?

 

[w0318]

hey guys.. how do i turn off vsync ? i have no clue..

i have this monitor. MOnitor please look at the marketing spec.. for details on the monitor i want to know if 60hz is the max. i never installed the drivers for the monitor. (would that affect it?)

i dont know my operating temps.
running 1280x1024
on windows XP the refresh rate shows at 60hz

the beeps are from the case speaker. it beeps after a few minutes of play. if i dont play no beeps. only when i play cs for a few minutes it beeps.
(i think its heat or not enuf power ??) is there a program that lets me monitor temps??


Also when i put in my 9800 i forgot to remove my nvidia drivers. does that matter?
Now ATI settings menu is massive. i didnt see an option for vsync.

 

[CraigRT]

vsync disable
first thing i do when i setup a new PC and install the vid drivers
(from the days of Q3... 85fps just wasn't enough) 85Hz refresh rate

 

[charloscarlies]

Well I agree with you that some pro cs players are dumb about using 640 and all that jazz...they do know about refresh rates. Go look at Team 3D's Website and look through their members profiles. Notice how they list their refresh rate as well as their sensitivity? Read through their Ask 3D section and see how many questions are answered referring to refresh rates.

I also have been playing since the early betas....so that is irrelevant. I absolutely positively am 200% sure that it affects in game sensitivity. When I get home today I'm going to make a demo showing the difference. I'll even convert it to an avi and compress it for ya.

 

[Pete]

i have this monitor. MOnitor please look at the marketing spec.. for details on the monitor i want to know if 60hz is the max. i never installed the drivers for the monitor. (would that affect it?)
Installing the drivers for your monitor is a smart first step toward going above 60Hz. After you do that, go into Display Properties > Settings > Advanced > ATi Displays > CRT > Refresh Rate Override > Same as Desktop.

I agree with Viper, the beeps you hear are probably related to either sticky keys or you hitting too many keys at once.

 

[w0318]

sticky keys? ? i dont think i have any.. how can i unistall it.

Scan 28kHz-92kHz
Vertical 48Hz-85hz

does the vertical mean that i can have 85hz as my max? or whats the max hz my monitor can support.


sorry for you many questions. you guys have helped me out alot. thanks.

 

[kylebisme]

sticky keys are in the control panel under accessibility options, just uncheck everything on that screen as well as in each of the three settings screens. as for refresh rate, ya it looks like your lcd can do 85hz.


oh and charloscarlies, i figured the difference between what you are saying and what i saw could be because i left vsync on; but i just turned it off and tried again and still one pass across my mousepad is one 360, at both 120hz and 60hz. i am still looking forward to see what you hope to explain by recording a demo though.

 

[Lorax]

you may also be able to access sticky keys by pressing shift multiple times in rapid succession.

 

[kylebisme]

ya 5 time to be exact. i always get screwed by that whenver i run a fresh install of xp becasue i use shift for alt-fire in cs and whenever i'm dead and go fliping though specing different people i wind up on desktop looking at the stickykeys options.

 

[w0318]

Hey guys i fixed my problem
i reformatted my hd and reinstalled xp Omega drivers..
i got 100 fps. now.i disable sticky key. no sound so far. also i turn off Vsync and truform.. i will be testing out the game now!.


oh i installed my monitor drivers but still have the 60hz.. sucks. will reply tomorrow with more results