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didn't read that bit srry
anyway that means i still cannot max crysis with AA 🙁 I always thought 128 stream processors are the weakest point in G80 but it looks like I am wrong.
And also everybody talks about hardware here but noone questions the efficiency of the drivers. It's over one year since G80 and we still don't have stable drivers, so it's important for us to realize that software runs everything.
angry hampster
Diamond Member
if it's more than $600, Nvidia can shove it.
angry hampster
Diamond Member
Didn't see this post earlier. I've not had a problem with any Nvidia drivers I've used since I built my rig in october. With my old 8600GTS I never had a problem (that I didn't cause by overclocking way too far) and my GT has performed flawlessly, even on betas.
alcoholbob
Diamond Member
No point paying top dollar in order to play Crysis 30% faster, it's still not gonna be playable above high in DX10 mode.
alcoholbob
Diamond Member
Lol, that's like buying a $2000 video card.
And people say buying a $400 console for a game is crazy.
Syntax Error
Senior member
Ha ha, if that's what it takes to run Crysis smoothly, then Nvidia and ATI's model of selling multi-GPUs to SLI/Crossfire rather than to make proper single card high-end models has succeeded.
Why build a card that can do it all when you could make another at a third of the power and make people buy two or three or four to compete? :thumbsdown:
Tempered81
Diamond Member
why can't they just drop "THE BOMB" you know they freaking have it in their labs. like a g100 or something. Like when the 9700 pro dropped by ATI. its there, they're milking gamers for $ right now because of lack of competition.
Like intel... and their qx9770's and shit with cicra 2005 stamped on the chip. Bush had just been re-elected, and that chip could have hit the streets. toms and anand just put out reviews of it last few months, and you can still barely purchase one.
Nvidias doing the same thing, i bet they could have forced out a "D9E" 2 months after the release of the 8800gtx had ATi provided competition. Wait and see what the market dictates. I wouldn't buy a damn thing they release until ati takes the upper hand.
the 8800gt 512 is looking like the wisest purchase for the time being.
Like intel... and their qx9770's and shit with cicra 2005 stamped on the chip. Bush had just been re-elected, and that chip could have hit the streets. toms and anand just put out reviews of it last few months, and you can still barely purchase one.
Nvidias doing the same thing, i bet they could have forced out a "D9E" 2 months after the release of the 8800gtx had ATi provided competition. Wait and see what the market dictates. I wouldn't buy a damn thing they release until ati takes the upper hand.
the 8800gt 512 is looking like the wisest purchase for the time being.
This is the kind of thinking that I've been hearing every time Nvidia releases a disapointing product. So it's Ati's fault that Nvidia doesn't deliver something worth buying? And they have the card people really want all ready to go, just waiting fo Ati to catch up? I can't believe what I'm reading in this thread... I'd be much more likely to believe that neither side has anything remotely ready which can be called a next gen high end gpu, and the best they can do now is superglue two cards together. I'm expecting at least one side to release that kind of gpu in Spring 08, but I've seen nothing to suggest either side is capable of releasing it anytime sooner.
Does anyone think this card will be reasonably priced, or will it be more expensive than a current 8800 Ultra?...If it's more expensive than an Ultra, I don't think it will sell very well...
We only have estimates on performance thus far...It will be nice to see some actual benchmarks...Hopefully it'll be greater than a 30% increase...
We only have estimates on performance thus far...It will be nice to see some actual benchmarks...Hopefully it'll be greater than a 30% increase...
Hauk
Platinum Member
ATI's dual GPU is supposed to be $400-$500, I'm betting the GX2 pricing will be similar.
I'm betting ATI wins the next round, in both performance per watt and bang for the buck. I think their card will scale well, have good mem bandwidth, and GPU's will be better tuned.
Last thing to consider.. CF can be mixed cards of same generation. A 3870 will make a great slave card in a Crossfire config with the upcoming X2..
I'm betting ATI wins the next round, in both performance per watt and bang for the buck. I think their card will scale well, have good mem bandwidth, and GPU's will be better tuned.
Last thing to consider.. CF can be mixed cards of same generation. A 3870 will make a great slave card in a Crossfire config with the upcoming X2..
SpeedyGonzales
Member
It will replace the G80 Ultra as long as G100 has not been released. It will be based on G92 architecture as NV is phasing out G80 and it will compete with the ATI dual GPU solution. I assume they will price it to compete in the price/performance ratio with the ATI dual GPU card.
The dual GPU solutions will bridge the gap in the high-end segment until the new single gpu solutions for enthusiasts are available.
This makes all perfect sense to me strategy-wise, however I will avoid this card after the 7950 GX2 desaster (lucky me, I did not buy it).
If the two GPU companies do not deliver what we want, the best way to react as a customer is to play the wait game and maybe buy a mid-range card as interims solution. I would NEVER invest into a crappy high-end solution, just to play Crysis maxed out. It is a good game, but not good enough...AND the dual gpu solutions will not allow to play Crysis much better (even Triple-SLI G80 Ultra is not suffiencient in high resolutions).
I also assume, that ATIs CF solution will be better than the GX2, but this is just guessing...
Let us just be patient and buy, when they offer a good new card...
The dual GPU solutions will bridge the gap in the high-end segment until the new single gpu solutions for enthusiasts are available.
This makes all perfect sense to me strategy-wise, however I will avoid this card after the 7950 GX2 desaster (lucky me, I did not buy it).
If the two GPU companies do not deliver what we want, the best way to react as a customer is to play the wait game and maybe buy a mid-range card as interims solution. I would NEVER invest into a crappy high-end solution, just to play Crysis maxed out. It is a good game, but not good enough...AND the dual gpu solutions will not allow to play Crysis much better (even Triple-SLI G80 Ultra is not suffiencient in high resolutions).
I also assume, that ATIs CF solution will be better than the GX2, but this is just guessing...
Let us just be patient and buy, when they offer a good new card...
ManWithNoName
Senior member
Another little news blurb appeared on Xbitlabs site yesterday ....
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/v...ce_Graphics_Cards.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/v...ce_Graphics_Cards.html
ArchAngel777
Diamond Member
Extremely dissapointing... :-(
I built my rig 4 months ago in anticipation that a new high end card would be out within 6 months or so. But the new 9800GX2 is worthless to me, and from the sounds of it, the 9800GTX will be small stepping stone from the current 8800GTS. Upgrading for 10-20% performance isn't my thing... I suppose I can just keep the money in the bank now, because it is going to be a LONG time before we have a true high end card.
It looks like G80 was one the finest graphics cards ever made for its time. nVidia cannot even beat it - by much.
I built my rig 4 months ago in anticipation that a new high end card would be out within 6 months or so. But the new 9800GX2 is worthless to me, and from the sounds of it, the 9800GTX will be small stepping stone from the current 8800GTS. Upgrading for 10-20% performance isn't my thing... I suppose I can just keep the money in the bank now, because it is going to be a LONG time before we have a true high end card.
It looks like G80 was one the finest graphics cards ever made for its time. nVidia cannot even beat it - by much.
angry hampster
Diamond Member
No, but they can release a card at half the price (GT) with equal performance.
ArchAngel777
Diamond Member
1) The 8800GT trails the 8800GTX by a good 10-20% and sometimes even more! So they are not equal in performance. Perhaps when you run low resolution with no AA. But who does that? Nevermind, many people do that.
2) Any company can re-release a product at a lower price. This happens anyway... It ins't like nVidia said 'Hmmm, How can we save our users money'. Rather, they said 'How can we make more money, our G80 flagship isn't selling as many units as we like...'
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