9700Pro Registering as a 9800SE?

[phosphoros]

i bought a video card on ebay and it said it was a 9700Pro, but when i installed it, windows registered and installed it as a 9800SE. after downloading atitool it told me to softmod it to unlock the missing 4 pipelines so i could run as a 9800NP.

i decided to look on the internet and i found that other people are having the same problem, except their chipset is listed as r300 and mine is listed as r350, which is what the 9800Pro chipset is, isnt it? so whats going on, what card do i have!?

thanks for your help guys, heres a readout of my cards specs:



Graphics Processor Properties:
Video Adapter ATI Radeon 9800 SE (R350)
GPU Code Name R350
PCI Device 1002 / 4148
Transistors 117 million
Process Technology 0.15u
Bus Type AGP 8x
Memory Size 128 MB
GPU Clock 324 MHz (original: 325 MHz)
RAMDAC Clock 400 MHz
Pixel Pipelines 8
TMU Per Pipeline 1
Vertex Shaders 4 (v2.0)
Pixel Shaders 1 (v2.0)
DirectX Hardware Support DirectX v9.0
Pixel Fillrate 2592 MPixel/s
Texel Fillrate 2592 MTexel/s

Memory Bus Properties:
Bus Type DDR
Bus Width 256-bit
Real Clock 290 MHz (DDR) (original: 290 MHz)
Effective Clock 580 MHz
Bandwidth 18560 MB/s

Graphics Processor Manufacturer:
Company Name ATI Technologies Inc.
Product Information http://www.ati.com/products/gamer.html
Driver Download http://www.ati.com/support/driver.html

 

[StrangerGuy]

You probably got burned. Any real 9700 will have the full 8 pipelines.

 

[Lonyo]

Pixel Pipelines 8
TMU Per Pipeline 1

Those pipelines?

 

[MegaWorks]

Someone changed the bios.

 

[crazycarl]

some 9800se's look a lot like 9700 pros maybe you got burned?

 

[LTC8K6]

Well, since it unlocked I guess you came out even.

The card was not a 9700pro, it was a crippled 9800SE.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Put the ATI 102 part number into their part finder and see what turns up. I'm wagering someone gave you a screw job.

- M4H

 

[Creig]

It definitely doesn't look like you have a 9700 Pro, but something doesn't look right about the 9800SE either.

You're showing 325 MHz core, 290 MHz memory. That's typical for a regular 9800SE 128 bit board, but according to what you've listed, you have a 256 bit version. But something has been done to it since it's showing 8x1 pixel/texture pipelines instead of the 4x1 a regular 9800SE has.

If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say it was flashed with a regular 9800 BIOS as the card specs you listed match it exactly. But I'm unsure it would still report the core as being a 9800SE. I would think that it would show up as a regular 9800 then.

If I were you, I'd install/run 3DMark03 and see if you get any artifacting. Run it a few times in a row to make sure. As long as it checks out, I'd say you got a card that's comparable to the 9700 Pro that was advertised.




Radeon 9700 Pro (256 bits) - R300, 0.15 Micron, 107 Million Transistors, Dirext X 9.0
Radeon 9800 SE 128-bits - R350, 0.15 Micron, 115 Million Transistors, Direct X 9.0
Radeon 9800 SE 256-bits - R350, 0.15 Micron, 115 Million Transistors, Direct X 9.0
Radeon 9800 (256 bits) - R350, 0.15 Micron, 115 Million Transistors, Direct X 9.0



Radeon 9700 Pro (all are 256 bit)
Vertex Pipelines - 4
Vertex Shader Version - 2.0
Pixel/Texture Pipelines - 8 x 1
Pixel Shader Version - 2.0

Radeon 9800 SE 128-bit
Vertex Pipelines - 4
Vertex Shader Version - 2.0
Pixel/Texture Pipelines - 4 x 1
Pixel Shader Version - 2.0

Radeon 9800 SE 256-bits
Vertex Pipelines - 4
Vertex Shader Version - 2.0
Pixel/Texture Pipelines - 4 x 1
Pixel Shader Version - 2.0

Radeon 9800 (all are 256 bit)
Vertex Pipelines - 4
Vertex Shader Version - 2.0
Pixel/Texture Pipelines - 8 x 1
Pixel Shader Version - 2.0



Radeon 9700 Pro - 325 MHz Core, 2600 MTexels/s, 256-bits DDR @ 310 MHz, 19.84 GB/s
Radeon 9800 SE 128-bits - 325 MHz Core, 1300 MTexels/s, 128-bits DDR @ 250-300MHz, 8.00-9.60 GB/s
Radeon 9800 SE 256-bits - 380 MHz Core, 1520 MTexels/s, 256-bits DDR @ 300-340MHz, 19.20-21.76 GB/s
Radeon 9800 - 325 MHz Core, 2600 MTexels/s, 256-bits DDR @ 290 MHz, 18.56 GB/s

 

[zorasson3]

go to adrian rojaks site and try flashing the 9800 se to a 9800 pro, see if it'll let u change the stock speeds to the speeds of a 9800 pro first, then flash the bios.

 

[ronnn]

I know future shop has been selling AIW 9700pro that are 325/290 rather than the standard 325/310.