😉 Yeah the hw like their drivers aren't 100% finalised yet so it is only good for a rough idea. How the 9500PRO fairs will vary as sites prob used diff AA/AF and detail settings to help/hurt the 64MB limit, either way the Rad9500's are a little disappointing, it's surprised me just how much of 9700PRO's speed comes from 256bit DDR. Comparing a Rad9500PRO 4xAA 16tap AF with a GF4TI using 4xAA and 8xAF (eff 16tap) gives a very diff picture than if the GF4TI was using 2xAA and 4xAF (eff 8tap), sure the Rad would look nicer but the GF4TI would be MUCH faster than at 4xAA & 8xAF. 4200-4600 or Rad9700 seem the ways to go at the moment. Of course 9500 and 9700 series cards should be speeding up as the drivers mature and prices should come down over the next few months ... still it's great to have the choice and all prices will be steadily falling thanks to the great competition.