9600GT/PCIe 2.0 Backwards Compatibility Problems

[daveybrat]

Originally posted by: nanaki333
ummmm... if it's POST'ing and it makes it far enough in windows for you to mess with drivers, there's a good chance the card is physically fine.

LOL, that's exactly what i was thinking!

 

[magreen]

Originally posted by: cozyrules
Solution is simply. I tested it a few times..


Delete all drivers from system. reboot. remove second display DVI.- reboot - again

Install nvidia drivers - reboot - connect second dvi - DO NOT REBOOT! enable second screen . but it will be at a reduced rate of 1028 x whatever.

Do this every time you reboot your puter.



CONCLUSION, Another crappy nvidia product with useless drivers. Gigabyte need to employ someone who can test there boards prior to shipping.


Back to the shop and grabbing an asus like i should have done in the first place. And a ati video card, at least i know they are compatable.

This is getting even better.

/lawnchair
:beer:

 

[soonerproud]

Originally posted by: cozyrules
Solution is simply. I tested it a few times..


Delete all drivers from system. reboot. remove second display DVI.- reboot - again

Install nvidia drivers - reboot - connect second dvi - DO NOT REBOOT! enable second screen . but it will be at a reduced rate of 1028 x whatever.

Do this every time you reboot your puter.



CONCLUSION, Another crappy nvidia product with useless drivers. Gigabyte need to employ someone who can test there boards prior to shipping.


Back to the shop and grabbing an asus like i should have done in the first place. And a ati video card, at least i know they are compatable.

Someone needs to get a clue on how to properly install a video card before being allowed to post on this forum.

CONCLUSION, the op is a moron who comes to the wrong conclusion on why his video card is not working simply because he failed to properly remove the old drivers and install the new ones.

 

[Lithan]

Am I the only one who his "fix" made absolutely no goddamn sense to? It sounds like when a 12 year old tries to impress girls by pretending he knows how to build a computer, even though he just randomly throws around words like "ram" and "scsi".

And wait, his problem is getting dual monitor support to work? Wasn't he bitching about the card not even generating display before?

 

[Flipped Gazelle]

"Solution is simply."

I think I should make that my sig. :laugh:

Yeah, Lithan, I'm having a hard time with it, too.

Girls are impressed by guys who know how to build a computer? :shocked:

 

[Lithan]

It's the double irony... the fact that the kid fails at computers may actually make him more appealing to his target than if he succeeded.

 

[Narse]

OP, I am just curious why did you think it was a PCI-E issue?

 

[jimmor]

Originally posted by: Jax Omen
Oh, we can read just fine, but what you're not understanding is that what that means is that those rare magical motherboards that aren't working right DID NOT IMPLEMENT PCI-E 1.0 CORRECTLY.

Just for the record, that statement is not entirely correct !

Unless of course you are also saying that the only reason ATI PCI-E 2.0 Vga cards have had much fewer problems running in ANY PCI-E 1.0 mobo (usually only requiring that the mobo bios be up to date) is because the ATI cards weren't properly designed iaw the PCI-E 2.0 spec ?

The bottom line is in fact that NVIDIA fu***d up by not ensuring their PCI-E 2.0 vga cards were properly compat with all previous PCI-E version mobos ---> as required by the PCI-E 2.0 spec. Started with the 8800GT and stayed for 8800GS; although now suposedly, and therefore hopefully, resolved for 9600 series, and onwards, vga cards?

Fortunately, the NVIDIA "8800" solution turned out to be as simple as doing a vga card bios update ---> Mind you, for people without easy access to a mobo which could run, and therefore have the ability to flash, their 8800, the simple solution wasn't actually that simple ?

 

[cozyrules]

To those who state that the issue is a no brainer let me explain a few things.


Gigabyte P965-DQ6 - card will post when reverting back to bios version F10 current bios version being F12j but wait, DVI output to one screen only during startup, then and only then can you connect DVI second screen. Updating Boards bios afterwards will stop card posting. Whilst using VISTA 64 . Using Xp 32 bit F10 bios is fine for normal boot with both DVI's connected. Upgrading to bios 11 or 12 will post one screen only.




Gigabyte P965-S3 - card will not post with any bios version if monitor is plugged in, only after boot up can you connect monitor (DVI)



Gigabyte P965-DS3 - Will post and install fine



Gigabyte P35 - DQ6 - same issue as P-965-DQ6


Cards used Leadtek 9600 GT 512MB

Gigabyte 9600 GT 512MB

NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT


Power supplys coolermaster 650W and 850W


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Response from GIGABYTE as follows.


We thank you for bringing this issue to our attention. We currently have no solution at this stage

but our technical department feels the issue may be associated with the Marvel Yukon lan bios update.

Currently the issue is with some boards and certain G94 based cards.

We do ask you update your drivers too 175.16 beta as there are numerous fixes which may resolve

many of your errors while we check backward compliance issues you refer too.

Tsa - GA

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Response from leadtek



Thank you for your inquiry



Here is a solution we recommend you could try in tests:



Try to remove all PCI devices from your PC but keep only VGA card (If you got PCI cards set on your motherboard...). Just test our video card only on your PC for comparison. If the video card could work correctly in the PC without other PCI devices, there might be a conflict related to IRQ issue. You can then try to set the PCI cards back one by one to find the conflict one. Moving PCI card to different PCI slot may able to avoid the conflict issue when you met the loop of hardware conflict appeared on a PC. We recommend you can do same tests as above mention to disable the all onboard features on MB for doing the PC boot tests for comparison.



@ Also you can try to test it on the other PCs to make sure whether the video board got any hardware faulty or not. If you still got the same problem appeared on the other PCs, we recommend you have to send it back to our local dealer and ask a service man to do some tests to it.



We are aware there are compliance issues Pci-E 1-3A with certain manufacturers and will endeavour to sort a solution asap.






Best regards,

Customer Service Department, Leadtek Research Inc





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Well well well, what do we have here, a compliance issue.

Would never have guessed. Thanks to the 5% who gave some constructive answers.

The other 95% should do some research before opening their mouths. In fact more a hinderance than anything else. So much for many of your technical skills.

 

[AzN]

Originally posted by: cozyrules
Solution is simply. I tested it a few times..


Delete all drivers from system. reboot. remove second display DVI.- reboot - again

Install nvidia drivers - reboot - connect second dvi - DO NOT REBOOT! enable second screen . but it will be at a reduced rate of 1028 x whatever.

Do this every time you reboot your puter.



CONCLUSION, Another crappy nvidia product with useless drivers. Gigabyte need to employ someone who can test there boards prior to shipping.


Back to the shop and grabbing an asus like i should have done in the first place. And a ati video card, at least i know they are compatable.

That's not the correct way to uninstall drivers.