95W Broadwell- it's here!

zir_blazer

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You're too late. Xeon E3 V4 models were announced back during Ci5/Ci7 Broadwell launch. And like the other ones, I don't recall seeing them at all. Besides that they aren't very interesing if all the models are more expensive than the Core i7 5775C.
 

ehume

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Includes: Intel® Iris™ Pro Graphics P6300. The 5775c has Iris Pro 6200.

Edit: That doesn't look like a Xeon die. Addition of built-in graphics makes it look like a re-purposed 5775k.
 

zir_blazer

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Xeons E3 shares the same die with consumer Core i5/i7s, that's not news. The E3-1258L V4 should be the only weird one since it doesn't have eDRAM at all, maybe it is not even present on the package.
Also, E3-1258L V4 and E3-1278L V4 are BGA, the other three models are typical LGA 1150.

The name of the IGP isn't that reelevant. Xeon Haswells E3-1285V3 and 1286V3 have a P4700 IGP, which is just clocked 50 MHz higher than typical GT2 4600/P4600. Its more important that Xeons E3 IGPs models have a P in them since they supposedly used Drivers certified with some professional applications, a la Quadro/FirePro.
 

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I don't understand the 1285 v4 at all. In comparison to the 1231 v3 it has a higher TDP (95 vs 80 watts), less cache (6 vs 8 MB), turbo frequencies are the same, and is ridiculously expensive because of the integrated graphics are enabled. The E3 1231 v3 is still a way better buy IMO since it can be found for $210-250. Very unimpressed with the new E3s.
 
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ehume

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I don't understand the 1285 v4 at all. In comparison to the 1231 v3 it has a higher TDP (95 vs 80 watts), less cache (6 vs 8 MB), turbo frequencies are the same, and is ridiculously expensive because of the integrated graphics are enabled. The E3 1231 v3 is still a way better buy IMO since it can be found for $210-250. Very unimpressed with the new E3s.
Maybe they are fishing for a market?
 

zir_blazer

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I don't understand the 1285 v4 at all. In comparison to the 1231 v3 it has a higher TDP (95 vs 80 watts), less cache (6 vs 8 MB), turbo frequencies are the same, and is ridiculously expensive because of the integrated graphics are enabled. The E3 1231 v3 is still a way better buy IMO since it can be found for $210-250. Very unimpressed with the new E3s.
Do you understand the Xeon E3-1286 V3? Nearly 400 U$D more than the E3-1246 V3 for a mere 200 MHz. At least make an apple to apples comparison between the 1286 V3 and the 1285 V4, since the highest bins were always ridiculous expensive.
Stranger yet, the 1286L V3 is 110 U$D more expensive than the plain 1286 V3, but the 1285L V4 is 110 U$D cheaper than the 1285 V4. Go figure.
 

freeskier93

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Do you understand the Xeon E3-1286 V3? Nearly 400 U$D more than the E3-1246 V3 for a mere 200 MHz. At least make an apple to apples comparison between the 1286 V3 and the 1285 V4, since the highest bins were always ridiculous expensive.
Stranger yet, the 1286L V3 is 110 U$D more expensive than the plain 1286 V3, but the 1285L V4 is 110 U$D cheaper than the 1285 V4. Go figure.

I was comparing the 1231 v3 and 1285 v4 because of clock speed. If you didn't consider price though you still see the 1286 v3 has more cache, higher boost frequency, and still only 84w TDP. Also the 1286 v3 does have integrated graphics, but that hardly justifies the $400 jump in price. I guess I just don't understand the market for the E3s anymore, they won't appeal to gamers since they have no price advantage over an i7. For workstation use you'd be better off with an LGA2011 hex core i7. That leaves server use (duh, it is a Xeon after all) but then you're still paying a lot more for worthless Iris Pro Graphics and a higher TDP compared to the v3s. V4 just doesn't seem like an upgrade.