911 or Tsunami

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: MillionaireNextDoor

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: JackBurton
I find it ironic that after 120,000+ are dead from that event, the people that survived it go to church and pray. If that doesn't slap you in the face and wake you up I don't know what will. Either one, there is no God or two, he doesn't give a sh!t about anyone. Either way, why the fvck are you going to church after something like that? To give thanks that you are alive, and God killed the others?

Sorry, it just freakin' amazes me.

Wow, you are dense.

Yeah, maybe I'm dense because I can't understand it. Can you please explain it to me.

You should read about "the problem of evil" in your philosophy class or in your library. It will answer the question: "If God is all-loving and all-powerful, how can there be Evil in this world?"

The problem of Evil

Well I've got the book "If Fairies were all-loving and all-powerful, how can there be Evil in this world?" Will that due? I think it be based on the same concept.

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: MillionaireNextDoor

Originally posted by: tranceport

Originally posted by: jumpr
I am SO going to hell for this

googlefight rocks...

Google is not a good statistical tool because most of the users are in industrialized countries of the world, with America being a large part of it. If more rural people especially in the countries affected by the tsunami had access to Google, much less the Internet, the results would be the other way around.

Maybe they need a tsunami of their own.

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I NEVER said that the tsunami was not a disaster of biblical nature, it is, but I don't think it affects the world as much as 9/11. This may be harsh, but millions of people die every day, but damaging the economy of the world is worse. People like you and I are no longer as important as money to the world.

arent the economies of these countries affected?? in fact it will take years to rebuild them, just like it took America a few years to get back on track. and we still havent fully recovered

millions of people die every day? i dont think, but lets say your right. they die because they are old or elderly or get murdered. but not everyday people die of a mass disaster such as this one.

and people arent as important as money? its the actual people that make the money, stupid

You are the stupid one if you think anyone matters anymore. Again, the wolrd is based on money now, whether that is right or wrong. If you want to blindly think this is not true is your own foolishness.

doofus, without humans there is no money.

your post earlier about humans dont matter anymore only money does -- :thumbsdown:

Read dderidex, because he put it best.

 

[cheapgoose]

well, one is a natural disaster, the other was an attack.

can't really compare the two.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: JackBurton
I find it ironic that after 120,000+ are dead from that event, the people that survived it go to church and pray. If that doesn't slap you in the face and wake you up I don't know what will. Either one, there is no God or two, he doesn't give a sh!t about anyone. Either way, why the fvck are you going to church after something like that? To give thanks that you are alive, and God killed the others?

Sorry, it just freakin' amazes me.

Wow, you are dense.

Yeah, maybe I'm dense because I can't understand it. Can you please explain it to me?

You either don't understand or, more likely, do not want to understand. I am pretty sure after a massively traumatic experience like that there are a lot of people who found God all of sudden.
If you don't want to believe in a religion, that is your choice, but that is no excuse to be insensitive and clueless about why others hold the beliefs that they do.
Ignorance must be bliss.

I agree, ignorance is bliss. And that is what religion is all about.

I know why people go to church after something like this. They can't handle reality, so they are willing to turn to ANYTHING for comfort. THAT is why people "find" something (God) that was never there. If they were brought up to believe in Santa Clause and Santa Clause was all they knew, guess what, they'd find Santa Clause after an event like this. No amount of facts will convince them otherwise. Why? Because life can't be that cruel.

So yes, ignorance IS bliss.

 

[MrCodeDude]

Which one was bigger? Tsunami.
Which one do I care more greatly about? 9/11.

 

[Mik3y]

9/11 is nothing compared to the tsunami. just because 9/11 happened in american soil doesnt mean its worse or has a larger impact. it impacts us because WE were attacked. the tsunami impacts the entire world because over 100,000 people are perhaps dead just because it's natural.

 

[Martin]

I'm having trouble finding the American-Foreigner Death Equivalency Conversion Tables that the media seem to use so much., so I can't really answer.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Mik3y
9/11 is nothing compared to the tsunami. just because 9/11 happened in american soil doesnt mean its worse or has a larger impact. it impacts us because WE were attacked. the tsunami impacts the entire world because over 100,000 people are perhaps dead just because it's natural.

And how does 100,000 dead people in a centralized non-economically-important area affect the entire world?

 

[Rip the Jacker]

Originally posted by: jumpr
I am SO going to hell for this

Are you stupid?

The Tsunami is like 6 days old and 9/11 is ... 3 years old.

How the hell can you compare results?

Unless you're being very sarcastic, that's retarded

 

[Anubis]

the fact that there is no NHL this year > both thoes

 

[Argo]

tsunami was a natural disaster. 911 wasn't. tsunami couldn't have been avoided. 911 could've.

 

[Babbles]

Originally posted by: JackBurton
I agree, ignorance is bliss. And that is what religion is all about.

I know why people go to church after something like this. They can't handle reality, so they are willing to turn to ANYTHING for comfort. THAT is why people "find" something (God) that was never there. If they were brought up to believe in Santa Clause and Santa Clause was all they knew, guess what, they'd find Santa Clause after an event like this. No amount of facts will convince them otherwise. Why? Because life can't be that cruel.

So yes, ignorance IS bliss.

You should be embarassed that you can not see other people's point of view. You should be ashamed that you can not look at things from another perspective.
Being clueless about others is nothing to brag about.

As an aside, I haven't gone to Church in four years, but at least I understand why those people do the things they do, i.e. pray after a disaster. I am not much of a practicing Christian but I can look at things from other people's perspectives.
Try it one day.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: ItmPls

Originally posted by: jumpr
I am SO going to hell for this

Are you stupid?

The Tsunami is like 6 days old and 9/11 is ... 3 years old.

How the hell can you compare results?

Unless you're being very sarcastic, that's retarded

He's not being stupid. :roll: Relax. Christ.

 

[JackBurton]

Let's quit trying to candy coat this. 9/11 happen here, the tsunami happened over there. The closer something happens to you, the more impact it has on you. Both are horrible, but I'd say 9/11 impacted Americans MUCH more so than the tsunami simply because it happened so close to home.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: JackBurton
Let's quit trying to candy coat this. 9/11 happen here, the tsunami happened over there. The closer something happens to you, the more impact it has on you. Both are horrible, but I'd say 9/11 impacted Americans MUCH more so than the tsunami simply because it happened so close to home.

The only reason that the tsunami is going to impact Americans is the world's economy is going to take a hit due to all the aid being sent. Not saying that helping is a bad thing, but seriously folks...

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: JackBurton
I agree, ignorance is bliss. And that is what religion is all about.

I know why people go to church after something like this. They can't handle reality, so they are willing to turn to ANYTHING for comfort. THAT is why people "find" something (God) that was never there. If they were brought up to believe in Santa Clause and Santa Clause was all they knew, guess what, they'd find Santa Clause after an event like this. No amount of facts will convince them otherwise. Why? Because life can't be that cruel.

So yes, ignorance IS bliss.

You should be embarassed that you can not see other people's point of view. You should be ashamed that you can not look at things from another perspective.
Being clueless about others is nothing to brag about.

As an aside, I haven't gone to Church in four years, but at least I understand why those people do the things they do, i.e. pray after a disaster. I am not much of a practicing Christian but I can look at things from other people's perspectives.
Try it one day.

You know what is funny, I WAS on that side for 25yrs. Why don't you come on my side for awhile now? It looks like I'm the one who can truely see both sides. Not going to chirch for four years doesn't mean jack squat. You still haven't changed your views on anything. Talk about being clueless.

 

[Sc4freak]

The Tsunami killed around 120,000 people. 9/11 killed around 3000 people. How can you possibly say that 9/11 was worse? Is 1 American life now worth more than 50 lives from poorer countries? Frankly, then thought of this disgusts me. Now I know that most Americans don't think this way and are honest, decent people... But really this is the message I think America is conveying to the rest of the world.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: JackBurton
I agree, ignorance is bliss. And that is what religion is all about.

I know why people go to church after something like this. They can't handle reality, so they are willing to turn to ANYTHING for comfort. THAT is why people "find" something (God) that was never there. If they were brought up to believe in Santa Clause and Santa Clause was all they knew, guess what, they'd find Santa Clause after an event like this. No amount of facts will convince them otherwise. Why? Because life can't be that cruel.

So yes, ignorance IS bliss.

You should be embarassed that you can not see other people's point of view. You should be ashamed that you can not look at things from another perspective.
Being clueless about others is nothing to brag about.

As an aside, I haven't gone to Church in four years, but at least I understand why those people do the things they do, i.e. pray after a disaster. I am not much of a practicing Christian but I can look at things from other people's perspectives.
Try it one day.

You know what is funny, I WAS on that side for 25yrs. Why don't you come on my side for awhile now? It looks like I'm the one who can truely see both sides. Not going to chirch for four years doesn't mean jack squat. You still haven't changed your views on anything. Talk about being clueless.

You know what's pointless? Both bashing religion and cramming it down everyone else's throats. Why does this have to be about religion? If you guys want to bitch about religion, go do it somewhere else. Please? Nobody's ever going to get anywhere if both sides are assholes about it.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: JackBurton
I agree, ignorance is bliss. And that is what religion is all about.

I know why people go to church after something like this. They can't handle reality, so they are willing to turn to ANYTHING for comfort. THAT is why people "find" something (God) that was never there. If they were brought up to believe in Santa Clause and Santa Clause was all they knew, guess what, they'd find Santa Clause after an event like this. No amount of facts will convince them otherwise. Why? Because life can't be that cruel.

So yes, ignorance IS bliss.

You should be embarassed that you can not see other people's point of view. You should be ashamed that you can not look at things from another perspective.
Being clueless about others is nothing to brag about.

As an aside, I haven't gone to Church in four years, but at least I understand why those people do the things they do, i.e. pray after a disaster. I am not much of a practicing Christian but I can look at things from other people's perspectives.
Try it one day.

You know what is funny, I WAS on that side for 25yrs. Why don't you come on my side for awhile now? It looks like I'm the one who can truely see both sides. Not going to chirch for four years doesn't mean jack squat. You still haven't changed your views on anything. Talk about being clueless.

You know what's pointless? Both bashing religion and cramming it down everyone else's throats. Why does this have to be about religion? If you guys want to bitch about religion, go do it somewhere else. Please? Nobody's ever going to get anywhere if both sides are assholes about it.

Yep, I agree.

Didn't mean to derail the thread, just made an observation. I definitely couldn't have started a thread with my initial comment.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Sc4freak
The Tsunami killed around 120,000 people. 9/11 killed around 3000 people. How can you possibly say that 9/11 was worse? Is 1 American life now worth more than 50 lives from poorer countries? Frankly, then thought of this disgusts me. Now I know that most Americans don't think this way and are honest, decent people... But really this is the message I think America is conveying to the rest of the world.

Those 120,000 people didn't have the same influence on the world that those lost in 9/11 did (and the sh|tstorm that's followed because of it). THAT'S why 9/11 is a bigger loss to the world as a whole than 120,000 nobody's. I really don't intend to be mean here, and I know 120,000 dead is a catastrophic loss, but when you talk about what is going to have a bigger effect on the history of the world, there's just no sugar coating it.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Sc4freak
The Tsunami killed around 120,000 people. 9/11 killed around 3000 people. How can you possibly say that 9/11 was worse? Is 1 American life now worth more than 50 lives from poorer countries? Frankly, then thought of this disgusts me. Now I know that most Americans don't think this way and are honest, decent people... But really this is the message I think America is conveying to the rest of the world.

For the love of God man, can you not understand most American's view on this? Which one would impact you more, your neighbor being murdered or a car accident that happen in another city that killed 5 people. Obviously both are horrible, but the closer soemthing is, the more of an effect it will have on you. I really don't think it's that hard to understand.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Sc4freak
The Tsunami killed around 120,000 people. 9/11 killed around 3000 people. How can you possibly say that 9/11 was worse? Is 1 American life now worth more than 50 lives from poorer countries? Frankly, then thought of this disgusts me. Now I know that most Americans don't think this way and are honest, decent people... But really this is the message I think America is conveying to the rest of the world.

Those 120,000 people didn't have the same influence on the world that those lost in 9/11 did (and the sh|tstorm that's followed because of it). THAT'S why 9/11 is a bigger loss to the world as a whole than 120,000 nobody's. I really don't intend to be mean here, and I know 120,000 dead is a catastrophic loss, but when you talk about what is going to have a bigger effect on the history of the world, there's just no sugar coating it.

I highly doubt 9/11 was as tragic for the rest of the world as it was for Americans.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Sc4freak
The Tsunami killed around 120,000 people. 9/11 killed around 3000 people. How can you possibly say that 9/11 was worse? Is 1 American life now worth more than 50 lives from poorer countries? Frankly, then thought of this disgusts me. Now I know that most Americans don't think this way and are honest, decent people... But really this is the message I think America is conveying to the rest of the world.

For the love of God man, can you not understand most American's view on this? Which one would impact you more, your neighbor being murdered or a car accident that happen in another city that killed 5 people. Obviously both are horrible, but the closer soemthing is, the more of an effect it will have on you. I really don't think it's that hard to understand.

It's not, unless you haven't been in a situation that's ever really truely hit close to home. I couldn't get a hold of a good friend of mine for two months before I found out recently that he fvcking hung himself. While he wasn't family or something, I wouldn't ever trade him for 120,000 poverty-stricken people on the other side of the globe.

 

[djheater]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: Sc4freak
The Tsunami killed around 120,000 people. 9/11 killed around 3000 people. How can you possibly say that 9/11 was worse? Is 1 American life now worth more than 50 lives from poorer countries? Frankly, then thought of this disgusts me. Now I know that most Americans don't think this way and are honest, decent people... But really this is the message I think America is conveying to the rest of the world.

For the love of God man, can you not understand most American's view on this? Which one would impact you more, your neighbor being murdered or a car accident that happen in another city that killed 5 people. Obviously both are horrible, but the closer soemthing is, the more of an effect it will have on you. I really don't think it's that hard to understand.

Why did the French mourn 911?