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[zposter]

My Win7 64-bit system goes from BIOS screen to login in 8 secs max. If I login immediately I get an error popup saying my attached drives aren't present. If I wait a couple secs before logging in the drives are mapped.

I7-2600K@4.6GHz / Intel 510 SSD

 

[The0ne]

Looks like we have someone resorting to name calling here because they got called out on posting ridiculous claims of 2 second Windows boot times. Just because you read it on the internet, doesn't make it true. Here is a post from the Microsoft development team on Windows 7 boot times:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/e7/archive/2008/08/29/boot-performance.aspx

This is included in the post. You might notice that the chart only goes down to 12 seconds. And that is well below 1% of systems. With improved hardware, 10 second range is probably possible today. Below 5 seconds, no. Again, whether you want to listen or not, the hard drive is not the majority of the time here. So even if you have a theoretical infinite speed hard drive, you could not boot Windows 7 from off (not sleep) in 2 seconds.

I can appreciate your argument and for the majority of users yes. But as I've said you can tweak your OS and your SSD to improve booting performance. You can somewhat already do this with Bootvis by having it reshuffle what to load in order for you to reach the desktop quicker. Add to that you can use a tone down lite version of Windows 7 instead of the full bloated one to speed things up. I use Nlite.

If people can get <10s boot times great. If those same people are willing to dish out the cash for the fastest SSDs and take the time to tweak them great! I am old and while I still love doing it once in a while I don't have the patience or time any longer.

Hard drive IS the factor. Why do you think having SSD reduces the boot time so dramatically? This is why most, if not all, users buy SSD for. You're telling us that SSD speed is not a factor and that having a SSD just makes everything else faster thus giving us the time we're getting?

I already know this discussion is going nowhere fast but wanted to let people who eventually read this to know there are tweaks they can do to improve the system performances while having a SSD.

http://thessdreview.com/ssd-guides/optimization-guides/the-ssd-optimization-guide-2/

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sol...marks-brands-news-advice-813.html#post7025580

Sorry for the off topic, it ends now.

 

[The0ne]

My Win7 64-bit system goes from BIOS screen to login in 8 secs max. If I login immediately I get an error popup saying my attached drives aren't present. If I wait a couple secs before logging in the drives are mapped.

I7-2600K@4.6GHz / Intel 510 SSD

I usually don't count the bios stage because depending on the MB the BIOS boot up itself can be short or long. My Asus is bad for this because the BIOS takes long compare to my multiple Gigabyte MBs (I love Gigabyte for this actually haha). You can try to to see what numbers you get with your drive with this program,

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/720-restart-time.html

Btw, have you done anything to tweak your os or drive? I'm asking not because of the off-topic discussion in this thread but curious to know.

For your drives, it can only assume because you are booting up too fast that you're getting this error. I have tested my PC without the need for a password log in and simply bypass the screen and haven't see that error. It can't be your primary partition because, well, you're booting off of it. Your other drives?

 

[zposter]

My Fatal1ty board has an adjustment for the amount of time the BIOS messages stay up so I just make it 1 sec.

I haven't done any tweaking of the drive, it's on a SATA3 channel.

The drives are on a networked computer so I assume it's the networking that didn't have a chance to finish starting. The internal drives are fine.

 

[Pariah]

My Win7 64-bit system goes from BIOS screen to login in 8 secs max. If I login immediately I get an error popup saying my attached drives aren't present. If I wait a couple secs before logging in the drives are mapped.

I7-2600K@4.6GHz / Intel 510 SSD

The boot process is considered done when you have control of the computer at the desktop, not when you reach the login screen.

Hard drive IS the factor. Why do you think having SSD reduces the boot time so dramatically? This is why most, if not all, users buy SSD for. You're telling us that SSD speed is not a factor and that having a SSD just makes everything else faster thus giving us the time we're getting?

If you look at the distribution chart in the MS post, you will see that about 50% of computers fall between 25seconds and 50seconds. For those computers, especially the slower ones which are using mechanical drive the hard drive is a factor. When you're below 20 seconds or so and already using an SSD, the hard drive is no longer the major bottleneck in the process.

Why people give a crap about boot time in the first place is foreign to me. If I boot my computer once in a month that is probably more than average. I already run an SSD, and I wouldn't spend a dime on my home computer to make it boot 10 seconds faster let alone an "astonishing" 4 seconds faster like that review you linked to. Sure I'll spend money to make it faster in general use. But for faster booting? Who gives a sh*t?

 

[zposter]

The boot process is considered done when you have control of the computer at the desktop, not when you reach the login screen.

Ok, I'll remove my password and see how long it takes for me to "have control of the computer". I assume mapped drives don't affect my having that "control".

 

[zposter]

Ok, I'll remove my password and see how long it takes for me to "have control of the computer". I assume mapped drives don't affect my having that "control".

9 seconds. And it didn't complain about the mapped drives either. That was kind of nice, but I do want a password.

 

[Pariah]

9 seconds. And it didn't complain about the mapped drives either. That was kind of nice, but I do want a password.

Irregardless of whether you are telling the truth or not, you have a dirt slow computer compared to those guys over at nbr with 2 second boot times according to The0ne.

 

[The0ne]

Irregardless of whether you are telling the truth or not, you have a dirt slow computer compared to those guys over at nbr with 2 second boot times according to The0ne.

I don't know why you have this anal attitude Pariah. If you don't believe it fine but don't be a douchebag about it with your comments, especially when it's under 10s boot time. And yes, people do care about boot time as much as people care about how fast they can get things up and running. This is the MAIN reason for considering SSD in the first place. Why you seem to think SSD has no play in the overall decreased times of the OS and apps is beyond me. Why do you think people get SSD then and what do you think the benefits of SSDs are?

Look, you may not want to believe there are people that can achieve faster times, people that have over 600MB+ on their SSDs and what not but don't be an ass about it. If I had said that I personally have 2-5 or <10s boot time then sure you can rip me all you want; but I'm not, I have a old SSD around 150MB that boots up in 20-25s (just measured). Why you now choose to be anal to zposter for his time is beyond me. It is the only reason I'm commenting, again.

I mean for Christ sake, you even chime in the quote that I posted earlier about the 4s time off as being astounding just to blast it wen it was totally unnecessary. And judging by your latest attitude in your last post, you do really want the last word even if you're going to make sht up just as well. That comment is because you are piss, there's nothing to it. Dirt slow? Because I said so? Because others are faster? Because to you it doesn't matter? Just Wow.

Irregardless is NOT a word. Sorry for being off-topic again people. I'll take my enthusiast questions off to the side with zposter. Less drama and better environment.

 

[Morphx2]

i came to read about the drive

and stayed to see fireworks

 

[RobertR1]

Thanks for the info guys. I'll jump on the next good SSD deal I see.

 

[TJCS]

bump that sh...

Enjoy 🙂

 

[VirtualLarry]

Does this drive have any known issues with sleep/suspend/hibernate?

Edit: And even with an SSD, I've never seen sub-10s boot times.

 

[amanoai]

I've got two of these on separate systems and no issues with sleep that I have seen, I don't do hibernate. Do upgrade to the latest firmware prior to usage, though.

I have four SSDs and I don't have any of these insane boot times. I also don't do anything to try to boot faster though, it's fast enough for me compared to working on HDDs, especially those older computers with the small and old HDDs. Anyone that has worked on older systems know the pain of keeping them up and running.

Does this drive have any known issues with sleep/suspend/hibernate?

Edit: And even with an SSD, I've never seen sub-10s boot times.

 

[zposter]

Edit: And even with an SSD, I've never seen sub-10s boot times.

Strange, my SSD isn't even a really fast one. I didn't do anything special to make mine boot fast, it just is what it is.

What CPU do you have and what speed is it running?

 

[houe]

I got mine for 150 from buy.com a while ago so if you don't need it now and can wait you probably will find it cheaper in the next month or two.