9/11 Conspiracy Proof *updated*

[NoCreativity]

For those who haven't read it (stolen from the P&N thread).

The logical proof that 9/11 is in fact a conspiracy.

Cliffs:

Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld discuss how to make a government attack look like a terrorist attack.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Ah, I wondered when our resident expert on everything would show up.

I guess I can't dispute your 9/11 thread as being fact anymore, here's hard evidence that you were in fact right all along. :laugh:

dude, don't blame me for your mental shortcomings.

You could at least try to reply with something that could somehow be construed as a relevant response, but that's not your MO. Clearly its a mental shortcoming that caused me to believe you were even capable of such a thing.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIC0Kl4TKoU


This man is one of the survivors from 9/11. He was in the building when the whole damn thing took place. He clearly states that there was a loud explosion in the basement BEFORE the plain even hit. Hell he found a man that was melted from that explosion with his own two eyes! Of course his testimony was not even included in the 9/11 commission final report.....

This is why conspiracy theorists have no credibility. They can't even properly recount a story that they link directly. Rodriguez didn't claim the man was "melted" from the explosion in the basement. Nor did he even claim he was melted. He said his skin was pulled. (OMG, he said "pulled." :roll: )

He doesn't explain where he was in the building (other than his "office") to know for a fact there was an explosion in the basement. The towers had five floors below ground level, so what constitutes the "basement." And how would an explosion in the basement have any affect anyway when it's very clear that the tower's collapse began from precisely the points where the plane impacted?

Do 9/11 conspiracy theorists ever stop for a single second to think their BS through? They contradict and change their stories incessantly, never present any solid evidence but instead rely on Youtube videos and artifacted, compressed jpegs; anecdotal statements where they can find one person who tells them what they want to hear (but patently ignore others who tell a conflicting story); and can't even agree amongst themselves how it all supposedly went down with their claims ranging from their being no planes to neutron weapons. Their unhinged looniness borders on insanity.

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: NoCreativity
For those who haven't read it (stolen from the P&N thread).

The logical proof that 9/11 is in fact a conspiracy.

Cliffs:

Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld discuss how to make a government attack look like a terrorist attack.

That's a very reliable and fair source :roll:

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
I just came in to see what flavor of kool-aid was being served....

Red. It's red Kool-Aid.

Cheery, Berry or Strawberry?

There really is a big difference....hey whats that almond smell?

Cherry, that's the only true Kool-Aid. (I was going to say fruit punch, but sadly they don't sell that flavor in North America)

 

[So]

How do you people seriously believe this. The same morons who couldn't get FEMA in gear for WEEKS, the same idiots who have gotten caught again and again with scandals. But somehow, magically, they're capable of pulling off the biggest conspiracy in human history despite the fact that it is perfectly explained by the events in the public record and corroborated by all eyewitness accounts at the time. This guy has either gotten his memory muddled (human nature) or is a crackpot.

People believe conspiracy theories because they WANT to. They can't accept a world that is so out of their hands -- it's much more terrifying than a world pulled by invisible puppet strings, so they delude themselves into believing that the ridiculous is not only plausible, but TRUE.

 

[OCGuy]

Fuckin nutjobs man. Every generation has them.


Watch out for those chem-trails guys.

 

[NoCreativity]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: NoCreativity
For those who haven't read it (stolen from the P&N thread).

The logical proof that 9/11 is in fact a conspiracy.

Cliffs:

Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld discuss how to make a government attack look like a terrorist attack.

That's a very reliable and fair source :roll:

Sorry if this came off as being a serious source. It's a long read but I posted for the ammusment factor, not reliability or fairness.

 

[Tim]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: noto12ious
see sig.

the us government is innocent i tell you.

lawlz.

do you have some sort of alarm set up that watches various fora on the internets for 9/11 discussions?

It's called google on the internet, on AT it's known as the "search" feature.

 

[Ruptga]

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIC0Kl4TKoU


This man is one of the survivors from 9/11. He was in the building when the whole damn thing took place. He clearly states that there was a loud explosion in the basement BEFORE the plain even hit. Hell he found a man that was melted from that explosion with his own two eyes! Of course his testimony was not even included in the 9/11 commission final report.....

I would say something like "welcome to ATOT, where your opinion is always wrong," but you've been here four years now and should know better by now. tsk tsk

 

[Desturel]

Originally posted by: udneekgnim
over time they become less and less accurate because bits of the past memory is lost, but the mind fills in the blank to try to make sense of the memory

So you're saying that my mind made up that 5 girl orgy that I had last week? I refuse to believe it.

 

[Squisher]

Yes, one day the only people allowed to use the internet will be those that rise above those just capable of turning on a computer.


And, when that day comes I will be able to take that quote out of my sig.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: irishScott
Anyone stop to consider that maybe Al Quaeda planted a bomb as a failsafe? It would fit Occam's razor.

And if there is ever real, fact-based evidence to support a theory of a bomb in the basement, I no doubt would believe it was al-Qaida. It was attacked with a bomb at street-level (or the basement, forget the precise location) in 1993, so it's not all that hard to believe it could have happened again. However, I've yet to see any evidence of this happening.

First and foremost, is what happened (and watching the videos of the collapse fits this):
The planes, when they hit, tore into the buildings at a high level. They tore into the steel support columns, with the most important at the core of the building. The jet fuel spread and ignited fires on a few floors both above and below the main floors of impact. These fires, while not hot enough to melt steel, were hot enough to weaken support structures, and most importantly, severely weakened if not melted the non-steel support structures in-between floors. Take the concept of destroyed or compromised core support columns, and combine with that several floors of weakened floor support structures and material, and you have a big problem: a lot of weight from several floors above, resting on a few floors of severely compromised structure.
The buildings pancaked. No video has shown evidence of weakened supports caused by blasts at the base of the building (and these, if not properly controlled and calculated, would have likely led to a collapse to a particular side, and not what happened).
And watching the videos carefully, the buildings pancaked at the floors of impact. First, all the weight from the non-damaged floors above, forced a collapse of the compromised floors (and the damage was basically evenly distributed, since the main support systems were at the building's core, and the fuel, and thus fire, spread evenly across several floors). The momentum of this collapse, and now unsupported weight, forced the entirety of the next few lower floors to buckle under the pressure and continued a runaway pancake collapse.

 

[trance247]

Please answer me how does a plane hits Pentagon without being blasted out of the sky? This is to me is main conspiracy

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Eeezee
I thought you only showed up in threads to tell people that they're bad tenants.

This thread drunkenly stumbled from ridiculous to ludicrous insanely fast

You should avoid thinking perhaps, you obviously lack the capacity for it.

 

[Kirby]

Originally posted by: trance247
Please answer me how does a plane hits Pentagon without being blasted out of the sky? This is to me is main conspiracy

Please answer me this how is you is terrible is English is.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven

You have to ride a segway to be in Skull and Bones? How the Hell did Bush get in then? He couldn't stay on.

He had a chimp stand in for him, they couldn't tell the difference.

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282

Originally posted by: TheWart
hmm, except if you bothered to read any of Der Spiegel's famous account of that day (the name of the book slips my mind), a couple of the people they profiled on that day actually took shelter in part of the WTC basement, so having one person come out and say this is just a tad sketchy. You don't think a single other person would have reported an explosion in the basement by now? What's that, the government "got" to all of them...well that is except for this person posting to youtube??

Besides, what was that explosion supposed to do actually? I don't see why they would do that because it would risk the whole building falling down immediately (as blowing up the base structure of a building tends to destroy its support...). Seems a little iffy that you can wipe out a buildings foundation just enough to leave it up for 50 mins or whatever....

then again, I guess it is pointless to argue with people who refuse to use common sense....

Did you even watch the clip? That first explosion could of been used to weaken the building. He said multiple explosions then went off as the plane hit. You must of also missed the part with the man who had his skin melted off of him from the explosion.

The buildings collapsed from the TOP DOWN not from the bottom up. What would weakening the basement supports do?

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Ah, I wondered when our resident expert on everything would show up.

I guess I can't dispute your 9/11 thread as being fact anymore, here's hard evidence that you were in fact right all along. :laugh:

dude, don't blame me for your mental shortcomings.

You could at least try to reply with something that could somehow be construed as a relevant response, but that's not your MO. Clearly its a mental shortcoming that caused me to believe you were even capable of such a thing.

Glad we are in agreement.

 

[ultra laser]

How come building 7 imploded that day, even though it wasn't hit by a plane. All the other buildings that weren't hit by planes that day are still standing.

 

[Mxylplyx]

Hasnt anyone watched southpark? The 9/11 conspiracy IS a government conspiracy.

 

[amish]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: NoCreativity
For those who haven't read it (stolen from the P&N thread).

The logical proof that 9/11 is in fact a conspiracy.

Cliffs:

Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld discuss how to make a government attack look like a terrorist attack.

That's a very reliable and fair source :roll:

read the article. its actually pretty funny.

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: Zeppelin2282
I'm just waiting for what the non-believers say. This is pure hard evidence on top of everything else that proves the story we have been told by our government is full of lies.

Oral testimony = hard evidence?

 

[amish]

Originally posted by: trance247
Please answer me how does a plane hits Pentagon without being blasted out of the sky? This is to me is main conspiracy

are you familiar with DC at all???

the pentagon is less than a mile away from the national airport. kind of hard to react to planes when they regularly have flight paths right around the pentagon.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Ah, I wondered when our resident expert on everything would show up.

I guess I can't dispute your 9/11 thread as being fact anymore, here's hard evidence that you were in fact right all along. :laugh:

dude, don't blame me for your mental shortcomings.

You could at least try to reply with something that could somehow be construed as a relevant response, but that's not your MO. Clearly its a mental shortcoming that caused me to believe you were even capable of such a thing.

Glad we are in agreement.

You could at least try, damn, you're just going through the motions.