You know tens of thousands of planes land every day and hardly ever miss the end of the runway. You just pick a spot and head for it, anybody that can see could do that with about an hour of practice.
You know tens of thousands of planes land every day and hardly ever miss the end of the runway. You just pick a spot and head for it, anybody that can see could do that with about an hour of practice.
Do you have any evidence that there is video footage of the attack other than your crackpot websites? Maybe there isn't any. Maybe the mysterious videotape just got lost somewhere in the red tape of government. Or maybe the government could care less about appeasing tinfoilies.
Here's one picture:
Black smoked fireball, I don't think a missile would leave a "gasoline fireball" like that. You can also see crap flying off in 20 directions.
complete snopes debunking.
Of course, snopes is under CIA mind control also I'm sure.
More evidence and photosMore evidence planted by corrupt CIA controlled firefighters.
quotes from CIA stooges posing as eyewitnesses
An extremely well documented debunking. <if you read no others, read this one.
I love you conspiracy theorists. When the US "may" have commited a crime, you guys automatically assume they definately did it. When Bush "may" have done something, you guys think he definately did it.
But when Islamic terrorists "did" in fact crash those planes that day, you guys are excusing them. You guys are justyfing their attacks. You guys are giving Osama talking points and vice versa.
But when Islamic terrorists "did" in fact crash those planes that day, you guys are excusing them. You guys are justyfing their attacks. You guys are giving Osama talking points and vice versa.
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Any proof that I'm more ignorant than you?
Oops, yes. Since I disagree with you true believers, I am definately more ignorant.
Go you.
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1prophet
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Next thing you know they will be blaming tsunami's on some secret conspiracy.
Here they blame a nuclear bomb.
Israel, USA, and India
And here they blame a secret weapon.
HAARP
At least today these conspiracy believers are a little more civil. In the Dark Ages if they thought you caused something that today we know is of nature they burned you at the stake.
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It is understandable that prior to the 16th century even the intelligentsia would believe in a super natural cause for diseases and catastrophes. Through ignorance and superstition at the time and reliance on the bible as the word of God, the Church opposed all scientific endeavors including medicine. The Church of England steadfastly opposed all scientific investigation well into the 19th century.
The Church maintained that catastrophes such as earthquakes, violent storms, volcanic eruptions, droughts, famines and plagues were caused by God to punish man for his sins or for the sins of his ancestors. Catastrophes are certainly evil things as far as humankind is concerned. It is worth noting in the 45th chapter of Isaiah, verse 7, God says, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
Sometimes these same catastrophes were considered to be caused by the devil either directly or through men, women and children who were labeled witches. These so-called witches were tortured and burned at the stake because in the bible, Exodus 22:18 says, "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Over a period of 1,600 years, thousands of people, including Jews, were slaughtered because of this insanity.
In the south of Germany these trials and executions were being directed by Pope Innocent VIII, while in the north the Protestants were conducting the same manner of slaughter. Just think how lucky we have been: there hasn't been a burning at the stake in our country in over 200 years! But who knows what the future has in store for us.
The Dark Ages were not a good time for cats, either. The theologians of the time associated cats with witches and the devil. The devil, witches and cats--I believe that constitutes a trinity. From time to time the Church would stop the killing of cats when it recognized that a high population of cats was associated with a lower mortality in the Black Death epidemics.
Here they blame a nuclear bomb.
Israel, USA, and India
And here they blame a secret weapon.
HAARP
At least today these conspiracy believers are a little more civil. In the Dark Ages if they thought you caused something that today we know is of nature they burned you at the stake.
Text
It is understandable that prior to the 16th century even the intelligentsia would believe in a super natural cause for diseases and catastrophes. Through ignorance and superstition at the time and reliance on the bible as the word of God, the Church opposed all scientific endeavors including medicine. The Church of England steadfastly opposed all scientific investigation well into the 19th century.
The Church maintained that catastrophes such as earthquakes, violent storms, volcanic eruptions, droughts, famines and plagues were caused by God to punish man for his sins or for the sins of his ancestors. Catastrophes are certainly evil things as far as humankind is concerned. It is worth noting in the 45th chapter of Isaiah, verse 7, God says, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
Sometimes these same catastrophes were considered to be caused by the devil either directly or through men, women and children who were labeled witches. These so-called witches were tortured and burned at the stake because in the bible, Exodus 22:18 says, "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." Over a period of 1,600 years, thousands of people, including Jews, were slaughtered because of this insanity.
In the south of Germany these trials and executions were being directed by Pope Innocent VIII, while in the north the Protestants were conducting the same manner of slaughter. Just think how lucky we have been: there hasn't been a burning at the stake in our country in over 200 years! But who knows what the future has in store for us.
The Dark Ages were not a good time for cats, either. The theologians of the time associated cats with witches and the devil. The devil, witches and cats--I believe that constitutes a trinity. From time to time the Church would stop the killing of cats when it recognized that a high population of cats was associated with a lower mortality in the Black Death epidemics.
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The five frames released were already debunked.
BTW genius, the camera was VDOT CAM-930, looking eastbound on I-395 at Washington Blvd. If the plane flew low enough to clip light poles and struck the Pentagon bottom floor, the camera would have captured it.
Oh, but I'm guessing you're right and ready to apologize for the authorities if they "misplaced" or "lost" the footage for the biggest attack on US soil since Pearl Harbor. I'm sure evidence like that just disappears into thin air, just like the major structures of the plane that hit the Pentagon.
Also, lets not forget that the cockpit voice data recorder from the Flight 77 black box was unrecoverable (according to Rumsfeld), which would be the first time in aviation history that a solid-state cockpit voice data recorder was unrecoverable after a crash.
Just so many firsts on 9/11. Maybe they were using extra special jet fuel that day to make sure all the evidence burned away.
so let make it real simple then, since it seems you are extra slow today
where
are
the
passengers?
I already know what I think, but I am curious what your thought process is to bring up the 757 flying 1 story off the ground at 500MPH.
Not sure how many times a jet has rammed into a reinforced concrete building at 500mph either.
That probably has more to do with the voice recorder not being found than some wild eyed conspiracy theory.
I am not on one side or the other, but just logically, think about this.Originally posted by: Meuge
For f-ck's sake people. Are you REALLY that dumb? For once, use some logic or common sense.Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: RichardE
Now now..everyone who saw what happened..and saw the evidence..you are all forgetting to use your doublethink..common now, get to it.
Actually we never saw what happened to the Pentagon, only the aftermath. Unless the FBI released the video footage of the missi...ahem...plane crashing into the side of the Pentagon to you.
I'd even understand it if you claimed that people in the administration organized a conspiracy to commit these attacks... using planes.
But honestly, don't you think it's insanely absurd to think that someone fired a missile into the Pentagon, and imploded the World Trade Center, then left all this evidence, which was so easy to discover for hobbyist conspiracy theorists, and yet somehow planned to convince everyone of the contrary.
I mean talk about Occam's Razor here.
You people are out of your minds.
The truth has to be out there, as there is no way that something on such a scale could be covered completely. So the truth is in the open, but, it's surrounded by stuff like remote controlled airplanes, missles in the pentagon, faked moon landings and Elvis being alive in Utah.
This thread demonstrates exactly why it's straight if every loose end isn't tied. Suppose 9/11 was in inside job just as a lot believe. What does it matter? GW is still in office, nothing has changed. There are no riots.
The country is so bitterly divided against each other because of fear and general ignorance that they don't look beyond their beliefe that it's the fault of the liberal commie douche or the bible thumping conservative turd sandwich.
I, for one, applaud the powers that be. Pure brilliance.
It is shameful that Americans think that our government did this. Their false accusations have been proven wrong time and time again. It just shows their anti-American, pro-Islamic fundamentalist attitude.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but these are the same people defending terrorism commited by Islamic terrorists.
So once again, they're defending Osama and criticizing America for this.
But yeah, we're the true believers.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but these are the same people defending terrorism commited by Islamic terrorists.
So once again, they're defending Osama and criticizing America for this.
But yeah, we're the true believers.
The "dubunking" basically says "oh this could be a photoshop!" from yet another crackpot webiste. Yah, that really debunked it :roll:
By the way, nice selective editing of my posts. Please quote me in context or not at all, "genius".
1) You didn't respond to my request for evidence of the supposed "missing videotape."
2) You ignored the snopes debunking
3) You ignored the eyewitness accounts
4) You ignred the extensive debunking link
5) You ignored my comments on rate of descent, turning/banking, and aircraft control, as well as those of another pilot.
6) You've ignored my question where are the passengers (along with others) at least 5 times.
I can only surmise from this that you are just continuing to troll, or else you are a completely ignorant leftist tinfoil asshat (or both). You are insulting to those that died and those that survived. I can only hope that Karma nails you someday...but you'd probably blame that on black helicopters too.
So at this point I'll just move along.
I can assure you WTC was not as armored as the pentagon.
And correct me if I am wrong but at least one of the planes that hit the WTC was a 767 which is larger and will bring more energy to the impact area.
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Indeed, if you provide a debunking link it must be credible, and if I provide one it is a "crackpot website". :roll:
The passengers are dead. Question answered.
I just told you exactly what traffic camera would have caught the plane on tape. But I guess they must have shut down all traffic cameras on 9/11, right :laugh:
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Okay, so if the Pentagon is more armored, you're saying the wings and engine dropped right off at impact? If so, they would have been sitting on the front lawn and in plain view of every video and picture taken of the incident.
Similar to the link I posted. It will be summarily ignored, it distracts them from their agenda.
How strong do you think these things are? The wings like the fuselage would turn into dust on such an impact with very little left over and the jet fuel melting anything that survived.
You act like if the wings hit something they will come unglued and lay there in perfect condition.
Anyways here is some pics from inside the pentagon that shows a wheel strut and what looks like remains of one of the engines.
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/parts.html
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