9-11-01 The day America lost

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Presidential Proclamation -- National Grandparents Day

NOW, THEREFORE, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim September 11, 2011, as National Grandparents Day. I call upon all Americans to take the time to honor their own grandparents and those in their community.

This Obama - he's a genius.
 

Slufa111

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Many may disagree but to me 9-11 was the day America lost.

Lost many many things:

Lost Liberty

Lost wealth

Lost Respect

and the list goes on

Your a coward.

The memorial site where the towers once stood is a symbol of patriotism, resilience, and America coming together and standing tall. You should be utterly ashamed as an American to think that this nation has lost its foundation. Go to Iraq or Afghanistan and look at the people there, scared and filled of poverty. Go live like that for a year or more and see how you pan out because I sure did and whilst it fucking sucked, I would go back in a heartbeat. I can tell you while I don't think we have made all the right decisions in the last 10 years, everyone makes mistakes.
 

dmcowen674

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Your a coward.

The memorial site where the towers once stood is a symbol of patriotism, resilience, and America coming together and standing tall.

You should be utterly ashamed as an American to think that this nation has lost its foundation.

Go to Iraq or Afghanistan and look at the people there, scared and filled of poverty. Go live like that for a year or more and see how you pan out because I sure did and whilst it fucking sucked, I would go back in a heartbeat. I can tell you while I don't think we have made all the right decisions in the last 10 years, everyone makes mistakes.

Iraq or Afghanistan has nothing to do with here at home.

The trillions of dollars lost where has it gotten us especially when we've sent all our manufacturing capability overseas.

Speaking of money, instead of the two buildings being rebuilt immediately we get two giant man made waterfalls.

Who is paying the electricity for the massive pumps?
 

Throckmorton

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Normal hazards? What does that even mean? I simply disagree. I liken it to soldiers who, after 911, were upset that they were going to be deployed to Afghanistan to fight a war. They figured that when they signed up in 1999 and it was peaceful that it would remain that way and it never dawned on them that they would be shitting on themselves next to 12 other guys on some mountain halfway across the world. Same thing applies to first responders. You should figure on the worst. Are you a cop? You should be prepared for the end scene in Heat. That's the way the job goes sometimes.

Their medical problems aren't covered. How the hell is that their fault? That's not "the way the job goes sometimes". But Republicans opposed paying for their health problems after the fact. The same Republicans that half the country votes for.
 
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Capt Caveman

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Many may disagree but to me 9-11 was the day America lost.

Lost many many things:

Lost Liberty

Lost wealth

Lost Respect

and the list goes on


Do you see the towers restored, No.

I saw nearly 9 years of haggling over money over the property and they came up with the single "Freedom Tower" and the other buildings on the site.

There's more but I am in the middle of moving once again so don't have time to write right now.

Coming from a liar and pathetic loser like yourself who blames everyone but himself for having such a pathetic life, too funny.

You can keep on blaming everyone for your lot in life but you dug it yourself. GTFO, loser...
 

SandEagle

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Coming from a liar and pathetic loser like yourself who blames everyone but himself for having such a pathetic life, too funny.

You can keep on blaming everyone for your lot in life but you dug it yourself. GTFO, loser...

what is it in his post that got your panties all wet? i don't see anything wrong or negative about it. oh, i see. you think jumping on the 'i hate dmcowen674' train is going to make you noticed here in P&N? elle oh elle. why don't you grow up and act a bit more civilized? it is 2011 after all.
 

pcgeek11

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This was far beyond the normal hazards of their jobs. If it weren't, this wouldn't have been an issue. They'd have full and complete coverage.

Their health insurance with NY City should have already been covering their health issues that were job related.

WTF is wrong with NY City?
 

Capt Caveman

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what is it in his post that got your panties all wet? i don't see anything wrong or negative about it. oh, i see. you think jumping on the 'i hate dmcowen674' train is going to make you noticed here in P&N? elle oh elle. why don't you grow up and act a bit more civilized? it is 2011 after all.

A troll defending a troll. Too funny!

Since, you don't know the history, I would worry about paying your bills, STFU and go troll elsewhere.
 
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In a way the collapse of the Twin Towers is symbolic of our nation's collapse. If the September 11 attacks hadn't occurred, I don't think it would have made too much of a difference. Millions of jobs would have still been sent overseas, etc.
 

trenchfoot

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9/11 provided an opportunity that we squandered. Instantly, we had the hearts of people from across the globe. Then, within an administration or so, we had alienated many of those people to the point of hating America. On 9/11, we had instantly pulled together all Americans. Over the past 10 years, we have become more and more partisan.

9/11 got us into Afghanistan to seek justice. Fine. No problem with that. Then the Bush administration saw this as a golden opportunity to forward their agenda. Thus Iraq. From that point forward is when our country started spinning around inside the neocon toilet bowl, flushed down the pipes and into the sewers where we presently find ourselves.
 
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ericlp

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I agree.. 9/11 is a joke and should be forgotten ... Forget and Forgive ... Forgive of dropping all the bombs on Iraq when they had nothing to do with 9/11. Sigh if anything we should be ringing the bell for all the innocent people that died of the fools writing 9/11 (never forget) on the bombs we dropped and killed thousands. That's pretty sad. Even tho, Iraq had ZERO involvement in 9/11 ...

Most of this was due to friggen idiot republican we had in office at the time making retarded decisions not only in losing all hope and respect for America but taking us deep into debt that we will be paying for next 5 or so generations. It's a disgrace.

Oh well, still looking for those WMD's and taking numinous rights away from Americans in the process ... funny how everyone will just go along with the program when we are at war even when we are fighting the wrong enemy. But that's the price we pay from a republican agenda.

For all this retaliation price we could have provided global health care, and put millions of Americans in college to get an engineer/teaching/etc...etc... degrees to make the USA #1. But No, now we just got a BIG fucking black hole with a whole bunch of dead people on both sides and bunch of others we will have to pay because they came back crippled or very emotional scared from what they experienced over there.

Forget and Forgive... It really is a sad day for America. That's how I'll always see 9/11.
 
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StrangerGuy

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There is nothing to be proud about of leaving the WTC site unbuilt after 10 years. That only shows how the U.S was utterly defeated by terrorists even after so long.
 

GTaudiophile

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I often wonder what life would be like had we taken all of that international sypmathy and support and simply turned the other cheek?

The Taliban would have been completely difused.
 

Macamus Prime

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Yes, but we're safe!

Ok ok ok, sure we killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi and Afghanistan civilians.

Sure we sent thousands of our brave men and women to their death.

Sure we spent trillions on a war that didn't really accomplish any mission.

Sure we pissed off Arabs who have now turned to and support the very enemy we are out to destroy.

But, we are SAFE. Well, some people in NYC avoided the trains and public places yesterday. But, we were safe in our homes,... which is where the terrorists wanted us to cower and hide in anyway,...

,... wait a minute!!!!
 
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This is one of the best examples of the large problem with the right. You guys are so ready to jump into rage mode over anything to do with this President that you don't even take a second to understand what you are raging about. It's really speaks volumes to the problems your country faces and why it will continue to fail.
 

emilyek

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There is nothing to be proud about of leaving the WTC site unbuilt after 10 years. That only shows how the U.S was utterly defeated by terrorists even after so long.

This sounds patriotic and everything, and it's repeated by lots of folks daily, but it's empty.

The towers were not owned by the American Taxpayer; they weren't a public works project like the Hoover Dam or something.

Larry Silverstein, the billionaire owner owner of the Towers, put profit above what rebuilding would mean to the country.

Manhattan real estate wasn't at an all-time high after the attacks, so he was in no hurry to get anything done.

The country might be in the toilet, but a fallow WTC site has little to do with how capable a nation we might be; however, it does speak to the reason that we are in this mess: the mega-rich, like Silverstein, don't feel much of an allegiance to the culture at large, and they place gobbling up more millions and billions above all else.
 
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xj0hnx

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There is nothing to be proud about of leaving the WTC site unbuilt after 10 years. That only shows how the U.S was utterly defeated by terrorists even after so long.

Uh ...huh? Have you seen what's going up? That shit doesn't happen over night. We weren't defeated by primitives living in caves, we were defeated, if anything, by men in expensive suits in DC.
 

Engineer

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Uh ...huh? Have you seen what's going up? That shit doesn't happen over night. We weren't defeated by primitives living in caves, we were defeated, if anything, by men in expensive suits in DC and CEO offices throughout the land.

FTFY.
 

pcgeek11

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I often wonder what life would be like had we taken all of that international sypmathy and support and simply turned the other cheek?

The Taliban would have been completely difused.

Sure they would... That bolded statement is laughable.
 

dmcowen674

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This sounds patriotic and everything, and it's repeated by lots of folks daily, but it's empty.

The towers were not owned by the American Taxpayer; they weren't a public works project like the Hoover Dam or something.

Larry Silverstein, the billionaire owner owner of the Towers, put profit above what rebuilding would mean to the country.

Silverstein now gets $60 million a year of taxpayer money to maintain the giant waterfall holes.
 

Generator

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The biggest problem is that Americans learned nothing of the attack. They've learned to weep on certain day and yet haven't asked themselves why the event occurred. No "they hate us for our freedoms" is not a reason. ITS NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

I agree with the others in this thread is that the best sentitment for 9/11 is to forget. Why not? Why not forget? Not like we learned anything, not like we feel ashamed for attacking random Arab for dubious reasons.

Yes lets all forget together. Its one of our strengths as a country. A deluded ignorance that lets all believe whatever stupid shit we want to believe about ourselves and our country.