8th grade class of 1895 final exam from Salina, Kansas

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Udgnim

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before seeing the 1895

the thought that came across my mind was that education was serious business back in 1895
 

Hacp

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Originally posted by: destrekor
sweet jesus

Most college grads would cry taking that exam

edit:
wait a minute. They taught what a Meter was back in 1895 U.S.?

Classical Mechanics existed back in 1895? Who knew. I thought physics was born in 1945 with invention of the atomic bomb!
 

lxskllr

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Nov 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: Kadarin

Actually, the article does not state that the test is not a fake.

The whole thing's kind of confusing. Usually Snopes will track down the origin of a faked document, but there's nothing like that on this one. I don't think we can say whether it is, or isn't fake.

 

Goosemaster

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6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.

Fake exam or not, it would've behooved many a home buyer to know the kills required to solve this problem.
 

zinfamous

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first of all, any test would look difficult to an adult. The questions are quite mundane and easy, and also horridly worded. You can't answer them only b/c you haven't had this stuff drilled over the previous year....(eh, seems that's covered in the article).

2nd: sure, kids have no fucking clue how to read anymore, but dumbed-down? I was learning about evolutionary theory as early as the 5th grade, the structure of DNA wasn't discovered until the 1940s. I learned more material in my 8th grade Bio class than a 1910 Harvard man ever would have had to master.

Dumbed-down my ass.....
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: Kadarin

Actually, the article does not state that the test is not a fake.

The whole thing's kind of confusing. Usually Snopes will track down the origin of a faked document, but there's nothing like that on this one. I don't think we can say whether it is, or isn't fake.

the point is that they are calling out the misleading use of the document. It does absolutely nothing to show that education has slipped from decade to decade.

Seriously, look at a typical 8th grade end-of-year exam and see the kinds of things today's kids need to learn.

Yeah, it is sad how little emphasis we place on grammar and language these days, but the math and science requirements are staggering.
 

0roo0roo

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u forgot the why are catholics dirty heathens bit;)?

fake or not educational standards way back could be rather dire before the reds scared us with the sputnik
 

shortylickens

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Originally posted by: Hacp
Give me the textbook and I'll ace the test.
BINGO!

All the average American student needs to pass this is one good day of research.
But a kid back then would be completely screwed if he had to take one of our tests.
 

Pepsei

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hell.. bring back the exam from the neolithic and we'll fail....

what? identify 43 different arrowheads and their applications?
name 14 ways to club a seal?
 

lupi

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Apr 8, 2001
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Very interesting. Even when routinely studying several areas of that test would have been extremely difficult to pass given how little it's covered in current day.
 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: darkxshade
Originally posted by: mugs
I'd have nailed that exam, then I'd have nailed the teacher.

Would nailing the teacher have anything to do with nailing the exam? ;)

nailing the exam back then would probably have meant nailing it to the wall...with a hammer and nail.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.

Fake exam or not, it would've behooved many a home buyer to know the kills required to solve this problem.

Especially when the question does not say anything about the interest rate's interval and frequency of compounding.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: Pepsei
hell.. bring back the exam from the neolithic and we'll fail....

what? identify 43 different arrowheads and their applications?
name 14 ways to club a seal?

Quite a few Canadians will be able to answer the second question. I suspect quite a few of the First Nation people will be able to answer the first.
 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: darkxshade
Originally posted by: mugs
I'd have nailed that exam, then I'd have nailed the teacher.

Would nailing the teacher have anything to do with nailing the exam? ;)

nailing the exam back then would probably have meant nailing it to the wall...with a hammer and nail.

Would make a lot of sense if that was a woodshop class
 

brxndxn

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If they were so smart back then, why they didn't know plants need electrolytes. It's what plants crave brought to you by Carl's Jr. Dumbass.
 

sjwaste

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent.

Fake exam or not, it would've behooved many a home buyer to know the kills required to solve this problem.

What about "Write a promissory note." too?

I know lawyers that have trouble with that one. Seriously.
 

JTsyo

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Originally posted by: gar3555
I happen to live in Salina Kansas, granted I didn't live there in 1895, but i did some sleuthing:

Actual Smokey Valley Genealogical Society

main page

Good info here.

RULES FOR TEACHERS
1872


1. Teachers each day will fill lamps, clean chimneys.
2. Each teacher will bring a bucket of water and a scuttle of coal for the day?s session.
3. Make your pens carefully. You may whittle nibs to the individual taste of the pupils.
4. Men teachers may take one evening each week for courting purposes, or two evenings a week if they go to church regularly.
5. After ten hours in school, the teachers may spend the remaining time reading the Bible or other good books.
6. Women teachers who marry or engage in unseemly conduct will be dismissed.
7. Every teacher should lay aside from each pay a goodly sum of his earnings for his benefit during his declining years so that he will not become a burden on society.
8. Any teacher who smokes, uses liquor in any form, frequents pool or public halls, or gets shaved in a barber shop will give good reason to suspect his worth, intention, integrity and honesty.
9. The teacher who performs his labor faithfully and without fault for five years will be given an increase of twenty-five cents per week in his pay, providing the Board of Education approves

This makes it sound that the teachers lived in the school. I like the part where they threw in getting shaved at the barber shop as a vice.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: JTsyo
Originally posted by: gar3555
I happen to live in Salina Kansas, granted I didn't live there in 1895, but i did some sleuthing:

Actual Smokey Valley Genealogical Society

main page

Good info here.

RULES FOR TEACHERS
1872


1. Teachers each day will fill lamps, clean chimneys.
2. Each teacher will bring a bucket of water and a scuttle of coal for the day?s session.
3. Make your pens carefully. You may whittle nibs to the individual taste of the pupils.
4. Men teachers may take one evening each week for courting purposes, or two evenings a week if they go to church regularly.
5. After ten hours in school, the teachers may spend the remaining time reading the Bible or other good books.
6. Women teachers who marry or engage in unseemly conduct will be dismissed.
7. Every teacher should lay aside from each pay a goodly sum of his earnings for his benefit during his declining years so that he will not become a burden on society.
8. Any teacher who smokes, uses liquor in any form, frequents pool or public halls, or gets shaved in a barber shop will give good reason to suspect his worth, intention, integrity and honesty.
9. The teacher who performs his labor faithfully and without fault for five years will be given an increase of twenty-five cents per week in his pay, providing the Board of Education approves

This makes it sound that the teachers lived in the school. I like the part where they threw in getting shaved at the barber shop as a vice.

Well, sirrah, perhaps you find it acceptable for such a slackard to teach your children the three Rs, but I'll have no truck with such an individual!